What would happen to South Africa in the event of WW3????

reply to post by menjo2000


Yes I'm angry! I'm angry that the rest of the world keeps looking down their noses at my beautiful, fantastic country. I am a white South African who would not leave this country for anything, especially to go to America or Europe. "Unloved"? Not at all! I have a wide circle of friends of all races and have been happily married for over ten years. The "idiot" tag is your personal opinion and I'm sure one which is not held by the majority, particularly those who actually know me! It seems that being patriotic is frowned upon if you're not being a Patriotic American!
All I can suggest is that you all come to visit this beautiful country and see for yourself. Seth has painted a terrible picture, one that I am not familiar with.
Back on topic...I believe that if/when WWIII arrives, we're all in BIG trouble and hopefully our nation will stay neutral as discussed in the brilliant post earlier.

Originally posted by Kr0n0s
reply to post by LovingSoul

 

A strong nation? I get a big laugh when I read about these tiny, insignificant countries attempting to sound "strong" towards the USA.
Like a tiny ant walking up and saying, im strong and IF we even notice you down there, since your a tiny ant, your voice is so high pitched we cant hear you.
So we turn on the amplifiers for you, just in case you're saying something important and we hear "im strong and were selling stuff to iran"
What did you say again? "im strong" and we flick you away with a finger..

Worry about youre own criminal country before you worry about my country.
Why dont you do something about the Rape and Murders of the white farmers and their families first, then preach about my country..

...and the mighty shall fall a fall that shall last a 1000 years and never end till the daylight awakens our souls..

Valorian

Originally posted by Cthulwho
There's been a mass exodus of white South Africans to Australia in the past decade, as a result about 1/3 of my friends are 5'9 blonde South African girls. So if white South Africans need to be evacuated somewhere, they're more than welcome to come to Australia

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...and they are fantastic :-)

Hey!

I started reading some of the posts, but they soon degenerated into the usual namecalling from people in other countries trying to paw off their own guilt on the South African (white) population. Especially the Afrikaner.

Regarding WWIII SA will most certainly be a very important strategic assset for one of the super powers with the ability to push the armageddon button.

Someone may have mentioned it already, but the big reason why people will want SA is because of the mineral wealth below the ground. The Merensky reef contains 70% of the known chrome reserves in the world as well as large amounts of PGMs wich are not found so abundantly elsewhere.

Therefore, SA will be a strategic position for mineral reserves for the building of weapons etc. In addition, SA still has some substantial coal reserves as well as plants which utilise the "coal to petrol" technology developed by the evil previous regime.

Why do you think the US assisted the RSA in the Bush War in Angola? The US didn't want Russia to obtain the minerals in SA. We are a pawn in the game, guys.

Regardless of our new government etc - we are still a highly strategically placed nation with a massive mineral wealth - a huge percentage of the world gold, platinum, diamonds and uranium are mined here. South Africa also has a political voice that is rather unique worldwide.

Not to carry this thread off-topic to much, but its interesting how Kr0n0s was so sure that South Africa would be wiped off the map by the US in the case of an armed conflict. - It was this exact attitude that lead to the dire situation in Iraq and the Middle East - let’s be frank, in a nuclear conflict, nobody would win, least of all the guys without nukes - but in a conventional urban war - I would not underestimate the "South African will" - our nation survived 60 years of International pressure, 20 years of armed conflicts throughout Africa. I do not want to debate the ideals that backed these conflicts - but if you would like to do some research, please check this out: en.wikipedia.org...
This spirit exists here to this day - black, white, coloured or Indian -

Further,

To understand our support of delinquent nations like Iran, N.Korea, Cuba etc - you need to understand the history of the ANC and the support that those countries gave to them during the Apartheid years. South Africa 'allegedly' supplied Uranium to Iran in 1996 - long before the latest political mess over there. Kronos might do himself a favor and research the US weapon deals that takes place daily to just about anyone who is willing to pay.

Interestingly - South Africa is the only country to date that willingly discontinued and decommissioned its Nuclear weapon program. (We did in fact detonate a nuke in September 1979 over the Indian ocean).

Originally posted by twodee
Interestingly - South Africa is the only country to date that willingly discontinued and decommissioned its Nuclear weapon program. (We did in fact detonate a nuke in September 1979 over the Indian ocean).

Yeah, this is a little known historical fact - South Africa is indeed the only country (yet) to have developed nuclear weapons and then renounced them.

Actually in the event of a nuclear war, it would likely be between nations in the northern hemisphere, and South Africa would probably not be seen as a logical target by either side (unlike Australia, which is strongly aligned with the US and thus might be hit.)

There is a good chance that after WW3, South Africa would emerge as one of the world's new major powers.

reply to post by xmotex


I suspect that had ATS been available in the early 90's there would be lots of debate about the reasons for the disarmament. I believe that the previous Apartheid government didn’t want to hand over nuclear weapons to the ANC.

My high school science teacher actually worked on the nuke program and further nuclear technology at Koeberg and Pelindaba- she wouldn’t give us any details. She was retrenched after 94' and had to become a high school science teacher! Go figure.

nothing would happen no1 give 2 s***s about the place as long as i make money outta it god bless africa

hey sethdarke i know exactly how you feel.. well i got out of SA when i was 7. my parents moved to america. yea we are still having trouble to get citizenship but our lives are so much better. we dont have to worry about getting raped or killed as much as my parents explained living there was. im glad they made the decision to move me and my siblings to america. im just scared of the U.S rejecting our application, but then i dont think they would send us to a country thats is in really bad shape would they? i dont want to go back to SA ever again. i"ve lived in america for almost 13 years now and i plan on living here until i die.

reply to post by Kr0n0s


Congratulations, you win the Most Ignorant Post of the Year Award.

The OP asked how South Africa fare in a third World War not how incredibly mighty the United States are.

This is an interesting read, as far as uranium goes we had some of the largest quantity if uranium stolen from one of our power plants in the last year... concerning I agree

reply to post by Kr0n0s


Kronos eat your words because south africa is the top diamond and gold distributing country in the world, your "significant" country buys our Rooivalk helicopters because you guys don know how to engineer one like it.

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Originally posted by Kr0n0s
reply to post by African

 

You guys are only where you are and only have what you have because of England..
In my opinion it was once a great country, at least until the Mandela era, thats when they began their downhill descent.
Now S. Africa is considered to be a Nation to NOT go to, especially if youre white and want to stay free of HIV.
Seriously, thats what S.A. is now known for! HIV and white farmers being raped and slaughtered.
Now to add to that, they seem to want to be known for supplying a Nation known for Terrorism with uranium?

I would think that if we invade Iran because of their Nuclear issues then we would also attack any aircraft and board any ship that was supplying them.

Also, I can find that dump on a map as well as my 13 year old son.
All you have to look for is the Nation at the bottom of the Continent thats considered the *** -hole of the world.

Kronos can you chill out i am A white South african without AIDS, and i am living perfectly happy i feel pity for on how little you know about world affairs, i am still in highschool and probably know more than you. please go back to the firwst grade and educate yourself

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reply to post by sethdarke


I think SA could play a big part if things got out of whack regarding the world order. I also know for a fact that SA could never repay the many loans given to it by the US either. So, who really knows.

As many of our tax dollars that go into food & relief efforts to SA also it would seem resonible to think that SA would have made a better choice of friends. Politics aside, the core issue is who really is your friend and who isn't.

I love the way the posters here tell us that if they (THE U.S.) didn't want us around, then we'de be wiped out!!! you are so full of yourself!!!! during the apartheid era, we pretty much had the stongest militant force globaly, even Russia feared us... we may be weak now, but low and behold.... do some frikkin reserch, who supplies most of your militry vehicles to your Army in the GRAND ALMIGHTY U.S.???? Yes, WE DO!!!! It seems that you finally woke up and realised that your hummers, or hum-vee's, just couldn't hack it in war.... i wonder why?? awfull desgin with no armour, yea, real clever!!!!!!

most of you (those who bash S.A.), who are you??? you speak like you have the power of the U.S. behind you, on call, on tap, to do your bidding. you fool yourselves into thinking you are great because your country is great.... WTF??? Well if that's the case, then screw you, and thanks for the economic collapse which YOUR country caused and has negativly affected so many other in the world......

Most of our special forces in our Army were trained by Irish special forces, we may not have the numbers you do, but DAMN.......... WE SURE OUTWIT YOU WITH BRAINS!!!!!!!!!!

I was born a proud South African white male in 1980, when i was 15 things changed and i could see things wount get better, its at this stage i do believe that South Africans would fight WW3 with sticks and stones where the rest of the world wil copy our bushmen legends, im sure we will use our bamboo canoes to ship out some stones an arrows to the rest of the world so they can continue planning WW4. Ww3 would be an big bussiness opertunity for S.A. Remember, you can take the ape out of the bush, but not the bush out of the ape, i hate this country for what it has become,