Blackwater granted immunity!

Three senior law enforcement officials said all the Blackwater bodyguards involved — both in the vehicle convoy and in at least two helicopters above — were given the legal protections as investigators from the Bureau of Diplomatic Security sought to find out what happened. The bureau is an arm of the State Department.

AP


What do you think? Is there not something wrong with this?

yeah, there is something way wrong with this.
Immunity for killers. What kind of obscene country have we become?

how do u deal with a traffic jam?....shoot the crap out of five cars & 17 people...(17 less to worry about?) ...i can see the logic...these dudes know they can get away with murder, thats their job...can't see alot of difference between them & saddams goon squads...pro murders....interesting how they are also used against U.S. citizens...

I read about this a little while ago, I think these people should be held accountable for the murders they have committed..

Im not surprised. The only reason they use Blackwater to begin with is because ordinary soldiers are accountable for their actions and they tend to talk about what happens to others. These guys can murder and be above the law if they shut up about it. They leave no witnesses, and if they do, who's going to believe what a Iraqi says? They are considered the enemy.

This world is so sick.



[edit on 30-10-2007 by Copernicus]

How nice Blackwater is our Governments own shultzstaffel, how much more people please tell me I want to know?

Voting doesn't work
Protesting doesn't work
Writing your reps doesn't work.
proving the lies and deception doesn't work..


how many more times are we going to rub out the line in the sand and move it back just a little bit more?


Most of us on this forum can already be defined as domestic terrorists, most of us can conventionally be diagnosed with (AGP) "Anti Government Phobia" and loose our gun rights.. (read the new NICS background check bill)

Our thoughts are now crimes, doing our CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY will get us put in gitmo...

How much more, how much more....





[edit on 30-10-2007 by C0le]

The Iraqi government is fighting it.

AP

We have seen the enemy, and they are us.

reply to post by EricFM


I see nothing wrong with having legal protections while an investigation is in process. What I do see as wrong, is a guilty verdict being arrived at before the completion of an investigation. I wouldn't want any of you on my jury.

Please forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject but all I keep hearing about is how Blackwater murdered all of these people. Is there video of the attack, were they fired upon or did they just feel like gunning down some innocents because they were having a bad day?

Everything I read about this seems like it's a closed case and I don't understand why. I've also been hearing that Blackwater started all the fires in southern California?

Do we really need evidence anymore or is popular opinion enough to judge? Is the main reason for said opinion because they are looked upon as contractors for the Bush administration therefore representing large corporations and a corrupt government?

Once again please excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject as I have foolishly relied on the mainstream media for the information about the story.

Originally posted by Anjin
Please forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject but all I keep hearing about is how Blackwater murdered all of these people.

Your lack of knowledge about the activities of blackwater INC. have absolutly nothing to do with the fact that they have immunity.
It doesnt matter whether or not they run around killing people at their discretion.
What this thread is about is the fact, according to AP, that....

The State Department promised Blackwater USA bodyguards immunity from prosecution in its investigation of last month's deadly shooting of 17 Iraqi civilians, The Associated Press has learned.

The issue here is immunity.
They have been placed above the law, simple as that.


And to you BlueRaja, I see everything wrong with giving immunity to people being investigated in the shooting of 17 unarmed civilians.
That is far different than 'innocent until proven guilty'.
Immunity says 'We dont care what you did. We dont care if you are guilty of murder. YOu are not innocent until proven guilty, You are just innocent."

If you dont understand how contrary this action is to truth, justice, and the American way, then perhaps you belong in a communist country where the corrupt elite grant immunity to their cronies and henchmen all the time.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

Maybe a revolution is in order.

I don't even know anymore what is going on i mean the corruption is so rampant these days most of it is just mainstream news now and no one really cares. Even i get apathetic and i know its going to bite me in the ass one day.

Take the fake fema news conference for example. I read that the guy responsible was going to be given a PR job with intelligence then i read that he was not getting the job anymore. Was that his test before going into PR at the cia? To fake a news conference and not get caught? He failed the test didn't get the job. No one about to get a big job would pull such a risky scam so he must have been told to do it.

I know this is unrelated to Blackwater immunity but its just one of many things that individually can be called "oversight" or "imperfect handling" but all together they paint a grim picture.

this stinks, must be directly from bush.
nice signal.

[edit on 31-10-2007 by anti72]

Outstanding news HOOYAH !!!... Make an attack on a convoy...suffer the wrath... Whats the problem????

A little update on the immunity thing. Seems the perps signed an immunity agreement to tell there story of what happened. Now the state department says they have no immunity because it was not authorized from the top. So the perps shut up and now it looks like an investigation is supposedly gonna happen.

Waxmans take on this

reply to post by WorldShadow


See everyone; once again this is just a simple case of misunderstanding. You can all put the guns down now. I agree with what BlueRaja said. It's not given immunity to everyone of the suspects. In return for information that can lead to a conviction of the others, sometimes the DA will offer immunity to one suspect. Of course, that's only if he testifies what the DA wants.

But you can also look at this from another point of view. Since the US usually won't let any other government prosecute it's (important) citizens, it gives them immunity from the crime here, negating it over in Iraq. However I do think giving one murderer immunity for another murderer isn't worth that first one getting off. Jail 'em all up I say. No S.S. for the US thanks.

reply to post by 11Bravo


You just proved my point. The investigation is into the circumstances where the 17 Iraqis lost their lives. It's not an open and shut case where the contractors just went out and shot 17 people, and then got immunity from prosecution. The immunity that the contractors got only covered the statements that they made to the investigators(i.e. that whole protection from self incrimination- 5th Amendment kind of stuff, for you Constitution buffs). If the contractors were found to have been negligent or worse in this case, then they're still able to be prosecuted for that. When posting sensational headlines, one should include all the facts so that informed discourse can be made.

Originally posted by Oneshot1
Outstanding news HOOYAH !!!... Make an attack on a convoy...suffer the wrath... Whats the problem????

Firstly, its HOORAH not HOOYAH.
Secondly, private armed guards driving around do not a convoy make.
Thirdly, there was no attack.
Fourthly, since you appear to be reading impaird (or perhaps a communist) granting immunity to people (read mercenaries) being investigated for the slaughter of unarmed, innocent civilians is an egregious display of justice.
So in conclusion, either you are a communist and see nothing wrong with granting goon squads and killers immunity, or you are too immature to understand the idea behind justice.

Have a good day.

Ironic tag 11Bravo...You say Potato...I say Potatoe...Not Communist...CAPITALIST (ie; privitely owned company's doing the work no one else can)... Justice??? Where is your concern for AMERICANS???? Or are they all big bad money grubbing war monerging evil scum??? PFFFT The Hate America First Cult is not only tiring, but borders on treason....Good Day Cur...