UN nuclear agency calls on Bush to ease Iran rhetoric

UN nuclear agency calls on Bush to ease Iran rhetoric

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Mohamad ElBaradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, urged the Bush administration Sunday to soften its rhetoric against Tehran, even as a prominent Democratic senator said he feared that U.S. military action was drawing "precariously close."

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Also, a couple of comments by senators and more from this UN chief about more "carrots" and less "sticks" in dealing w/ Iran.

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Iran is abiding by the IAEA - its the US that is pushing for war. They have had more inspections than any other country in teh world - who is inspecting Israel`s nuclear programme?

reply to post by Harlequin


Last I checked, Israel, U.S.A, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, France, Germany, and Great Britain (all of whom have nuclear weapons) have not threatened to wipe other countries off the face of the map.

You see, once you make that kind of statement you have declared your intentions thus changing the rules.

The counrties listed above have made no such statements therefore they are immune to this type of scrutiny.

Becker

reply to post by Becker44


And last time I checked, the translation "wipe them off the map" isn't even translatable in Farsi. The "regime may be erased from the pages of time," more so.

The threat regardless of it's implications, which may mean one thing or another is nothing compared to the invasion of two countries and forcing a regime change in a third.

reply to post by Becker44


Oh, and also.


Cold war ring a bell? Last time I checked, Russia had nuclear warheads pointed at our country just 100 miles away. I'd say that's a little more serious than being between 3 to 7 years away from nuclear capabilities and claiming something that was broadly taken out of context.

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


I'm not sure how this discussion becomes an Iraqi issue. To me you seem a little confused.

The US dont want peace. Why is this not obvious to everybody after all these years of wars against the middle east, where every one of them have been based on US officials telling lies?


[edit on 29-10-2007 by Copernicus]

Originally posted by Becker44
reply to post by Harlequin

 

Last I checked, Israel, U.S.A, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, France, Germany, and Great Britain (all of whom have nuclear weapons) have not threatened to wipe other countries off the face of the map.

You see, once you make that kind of statement you have declared your intentions thus changing the rules.

The counrties listed above have made no such statements therefore they are immune to this type of scrutiny.

Becker

How is this not relevant to the entirety of your post? The United States, Russia, India, and Pakistan have all had their fingers on the button. Iran is three to seven years off of having any nuclear capability what so ever. How are the direct actions of one nation in a specific region, less important than a rather non-aggressive country and it's widely altered statements more of a threat?

[edit on 29-10-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

Considering the United States is one of the six in which you've listed that have nuclear capabilities and are the ONLY nation that's ever USED an atomic weapon against another nation let alone one of the four that has ever threatened numerous nations not an eye opener to you?

Iran never made said comment.

The only posturing for the use of nuclear weapons has been the U.S.

If you want to talk nuclear liability, you're speaking for the wrong team.

[edit on 29-10-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

Originally posted by Becker44
Last I checked, Israel, U.S.A, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, France, Germany, and Great Britain (all of whom have nuclear weapons) have not threatened to wipe other countries off the face of the map.

Israel, Russia, Germany, China, India, Pakistan, Great Britain and the USA have all effectively "wiped countries off the map". Actions speak louder than words...

To best of my knolege united states is the only country that used such a weapon, not once but twice, hirosima and nagasaki and with out threat of japan having weapons of mass distruction.
I would fear more an insane president that talks about WWIII while he has a nice big smile after all the comments he made/

To the best of my knolege united states used deplited uranium shells in cosovo and iraq, even the marines had problems from it when they came home.

To the best of my knolege no other country go's in other countrys and starts to build bases and missle sites, not even comunist china.

Who should we worry?

YIKES! 15 yard penalty for piling on.

My only statement was in reference to the OP's post. Now this thread is morphing into the "We hate America" chant.

My statement is as follows:

Iran, whether 6 months or 7 years away from a nuclear weapon should make a better effort to be recognized as country with tollerance towards others. You can't go around spouting off thatt you'd like to eliminate countries and expect the world to encourage you to aquire this type of weapon.

I really don't care if some of you hate the U.S. It's really not important to me. My countries current administation is an embarrasment. I am not proud of our politicians, but man, please stay on topic. I'm sure the OP would appreciate it.

Becker

reply to post by Becker44


Don't try and polarize the discussion between you and I with that "you hate america" bull#.

Iran is the most liberal nation in the middle east. The most tolerant of all nations and a democratic benchmark in the region.

Because you're wrong, and you were hit with 5 replies to one uneducated comment doesn't necessarily mean we're going off topic. As far as I can see we're spot on, guy.

[edit on 29-10-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

reply to post by Becker44


What about a nuclear free middle east zone, would you be up for that?
This will mean to ask Israel to go nuclear free.
Double standard, in the world of geopolitics it doesn't matter what you say in public. What matter is what is real today, and guess what? What is real is that Israel as turn is back on the world community with engaging in nuclear weapon proliferation.
It is not possible to let some country get they hand on nuclear weapons when you denied other the same, this obvious injustice feed extremism every where.

Kacou.

YIKES! 15 yard penalty for piling on.

My only statement was in reference to the OP's post. Now this thread is morphing into the "We hate America" chant.

My statement is as follows:

Iran, whether 6 months or 7 years away from a nuclear weapon should make a better effort to be recognized as country with tollerance towards others. You can't go around spouting off thatt you'd like to eliminate countries and expect the world to encourage you to aquire this type of weapon.

Dear Becker44 how do you know iran is building a nuke?
Do you have any evidence to sustain such claims?
If so can I please see the information?
And no it's not anti american, but I'm tierd of seeing people that have no backing of facts, it's called "EVIDENCE" and there is none to support your claims, and when I say evidence I mean real evidence of a nuclear weapon being constructed.

How did you come to the conclusion of 7 years in the first place when there is nothing to begin with, what you are just looking at what others say and then copy cat what some one else said at the period of time?

How do you know he is informed correctly?
Who came and told you they are building a nuclear weapon?
How did you come to this conclusion?



If I knew iran is building nukes for sure, I would be the first to call them liars and to sugest that military action might be a solution, but there is no indication of real plausible intel that they are doing that, it's just a power plant, and since they folowed the atomic energy agency rules then it's alright for them to have a power plant because it is their right to have one, it's in the international law, you can have a nuclear power plant as long as you folow the rules.

reply to post by pepsi78


Do not ask any information or proofs of the a ledge Iran's nuclear weapon program because they may produce fake photos and testaments like CNN hade done February 14, 2005, and then obviously deleted any link to this photos and stories about nuclear weapon facility in Iran.
Read this article that I have linked below.
www.why-war.com...

Kacou.

reply to post by pepsi78


Pepsi,

Thanks very much for the civil response. You pose interesting questions. The standard comeback to one of your points is, "How do you know they are not trying to build nuclear weapons?". I dislike those types of responses because they are discussion closers.

Personally, I can not be 100% certain Iran is closing in on this capability. I can only follow the saga closely, and read what other countries are saying about this. Many european countries are quite skeptical and nervous concerning the Iranian regime's intentions.

I for one, (ex-miltary and have been in theatre) would not want to be suprised by the Iranians. I think the world community did a terrrific job with the North Korean situation, yet I hear no out cry that the U.S. or anyone else was bullying them? It seems people take selective positions based on what is currently popular.

I don't condone a military action against Iran at this time. I hope we have a peaceful resolution to this issue.

Becker

reply to post by Becker44


well others have allready corrected you on the false `wiping from the map` statement.

make a better effort to be recognized as country with tollerance towards others.

The US should heed those words instead of invading other countries.... -Iran has been subject to more IAEA inspections than any other country - Israel has threatened to kill anyone who goes near Dimona - and that includes the IAEA.

make of that as you will.