What about a raid on Area 51 so we can know exactly what is there?

Originally posted by george_gaz
I guess they would just circle the group with guns and ward them back to the exit and tell them to bugger off :-D

I agree with you! That's probably what would happen.

I love how people use the word, "storm" or "raid" so easily. As I said in an earlier post, there are signs saying, "no trespassing." If you get caught entering the area, don't expect much sympathy if you get jailed or worse.

And I don't think, "I didn't think they really would shoot me!" is a good enough defense.

if you can get enough people together im in

[edit on 12-2-2008 by MuayThaiOwns]

i think you'd have to be a naked chick, or thousands of naked chicks to stand a chance of getting passed the guards. either way you'd be patriot acted, raped and tortured.
But in response to all the patriots on this thread claiming it would be murder to kill a bunch of soldiers who wouldn't think twice about shooting you center masse (they wouldn't consider your poor families either) just for walking onto the outer boundaries of area fifty one - i don't see how they could be considered innocent people or murder victims. Screw em. they would kill you instantly. live by the sword, die by it soldiers. if they cared anything about their poor families or wives, they wouldn't choose to join the military to begin with. Soldiers choose to murder, over being with their families. if they get killed, boo hoo. plus, we are talking about souless individuals who guard a place that builds and creates war machines that murder thousands of people. nukes have been tested there. these goosesteppers are not innocent. they represent death, murder and war.

wtf are spec ops guys with silenced guns gonna do to a jet fighter with a vulcan cannon not to mention the fighter jet traveling at 700km/h while doing its gun run

someone also mention civilians with guns just marching in (and not firing) once again its a air force base expect either armed civilians getting shot coz they got guns or a sh1t load of tear gas getting dropped on them from above aswell as other non lethal weapons

the best bet you have at entering A51 is if you were a navy seal that did recon missions for like 15 years and only armed with a knife that way you wont get shot (hopfully.......lol), you still would get caught but you would do better than most people

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That is the dumbest idea I have ever heard! Sniper teams and silenced M4's really? How are you going to fly over it and jump with out them knowing and how will you place the sniper teams its flat as hell and the mountains are way WAY to far away to engage. You are just asking to get killed you are better off jumping without guns and saying your LZ got messed up so at least you have a chance of not being killed DUMB DUMB DUMB

Originally posted by rudigerfoodiger
i think you'd have to be a naked chick, or thousands of naked chicks to stand a chance of getting passed the guards. either way you'd be patriot acted, raped and tortured.
But in response to all the patriots on this thread claiming it would be murder to kill a bunch of soldiers who wouldn't think twice about shooting you center masse (they wouldn't consider your poor families either) just for walking onto the outer boundaries of area fifty one - i don't see how they could be considered innocent people or murder victims. Screw em. they would kill you instantly. live by the sword, die by it soldiers. if they cared anything about their poor families or wives, they wouldn't choose to join the military to begin with. Soldiers choose to murder, over being with their families. if they get killed, boo hoo. plus, we are talking about souless individuals who guard a place that builds and creates war machines that murder thousands of people. nukes have been tested there. these goosesteppers are not innocent. they represent death, murder and war.

You are dumb too...Soldiers equal murderers, thats a nice way to reduce the people that protect your right to have a web site like this

what a fool you are.
don't buy into the taglines.
all the murderous things soldiers do all over the world have nothing to with my rights, or my freedom. why don't you come up with an original thought instead of spewing out the army propoganda.
I'm sorry, but even if all the murder and the genocide and the harm done by us soldiers somehow did protect my "rights" - not worth it. screw my rights. I'd rather all soldiers drop dead, than have them do harm in my name or with "my rights" as a justification for all the evil things they do.
your stupid little army slogans make no sense and they never did. I'm sorry you have no original thoughts, or any old lies that are stuck in your head that actually make sense. Why don't you leave the thinking to the dissidents and the unpatriotic conspiracy theorists - you go watch more army commercials and keep believing in the slogans. next time you talk to me at least come up with an original thought, not the same non logical bs i've had to listen to my whole life.

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If you dont care about rights then why dont you leave the country...canada is a nice place. Ive been serving in the military for 10 years so im used to people like you and your uneducated views about the world. Im sorry I wasnt "Original" enough for you. There is the truth which either you believe or you don't but its still true and there is the conspiracy theories that you choose to believe but at the end of the day its a theory...some creative writing

Oh, so you are in the military - that explains everything. I'm sorry, but your opinions are less valuable than mine because yours are not your own - they are the military's. I'm afraid you are mistaking your military indoctrination for your worldview. How exactly are my views of the world uneducated? is your boot camp a better education than my college degree?
military lies are not the truth, goosestepper. it isn't an absolute truth that you defend freedom or anybody's rights. you don't even defend people's lives. you take them. all those military lies about freedom and rights are things soldiers lie to themselves about to distract from the obvious truth - you kill people. you are the opposite of heroes. you rep death and war and colonization.
Why would I move to Canada?
I'm an american indian. as in Native. As in - native americans have been resisting your cavalry and the us government and its soldiers since day one. some of us fled to mexico. some of us to canada. most of us were force marched by brainless soldiers like yourself to Oklahoma, which yes is where i reside.
the only rights native americans have are the rights to do exactly what we are told - at gunpoint - by soldiers like you.
so screw your lies about my rights, goosestepper. go murder people for my rights. i'm sure there are some babies who you need to kill for my rights. like the mai lai massacre. remember when vietnam veterans murdered an entire village, dozenz of babies, hundreds of raped women? that was for my rights i guess.
thanks, soldier. thanks for nothing.

You wouldn't even make it as far as actually progressing the idea past the planning stages. Just stating it online has already given you away, and if you took the steps necessary to actually implement the plan, you would have your joint raided, and any pertinent information confiscated. Any distance past that you know what would happen

Lol, hey I'm not trying to be too hard on you, but I'm just giving you a realistic idea of what would actually happen. It sounds like you had one heck of a dream

Originally posted by rudigerfoodiger

You are in need of some seriously deep soul searching. You really have no idea how easy you have it here, and how fortunate you are to have a decent military. When was the last time you saw the United States Military running through our streets hacking citizens to death with machetes, and doing it only to certain ethnic groups? When was the last time that critics such as yourself were rounded up and totured to death, or just plain shot dead in the middle of the streets? Have you ever had the military kick you out of your house, beat and rape your family, then burn it all down? Have you even been forced to join the Military?

You really need a reality check, as you have no idea what a murderous-genocidal military is even like. Some folks I know would be astonished at your attitude, as they have been through hell and back going through horrors you can only imagine. When they come here to America, they feel like they are in Heaven compared to where they came from, and to call the US Military a bunch of murderers just goes to prove you have absolutely no idea what a tough life is all about, and what a truly murderous military looks like. You cannot be a fan of the Military, and you can most certainly not be into War, but to use such slanderous labels for the most considerate and humane military the world has ever known is truly unjust and ignorant.


[edit on 2-22-2008 by TheAgentNineteen]

[edit on 2-22-2008 by TheAgentNineteen]

false. people in my family have been kidnapped by the military, forced into slavery/assimilation schools. the last of these indian schools shut down in 1989. not ancient history. within my lifetime these concentration camps exist. reservations are concentration camps. oklahoma is a 39 nation pen. just because the military doesn't round up settlers like yourself doesn't mean the they don't murder people all over the globe.
for your information, area fifty one doesn't have any right to exist. the united states has no legal claim to any part of nevada. the government acknowledged all of nevada as western shoshone land forevor in a treaty signed at ruby valley. treaties are higher laws than the constitution because they are laws made by TWO Sovereign nations. Newe Segobia is the actual name of the land area fifty one is illegally squatting on. Guess how many nuclear bombs have been detonated in Newe Segobia? 953 and counting, making Newe Segobia OFFICIALLY the most bombed nation on earth. You think the Shoshone people aren't being opressed by the military and its nuclear radiation? eff you pal. you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to the united states and its military's treatment of native people. native people are NOT better off because america exists. all these rights and stuff you brag about america for come at the direct expense of native people. what about our rights not to be colonized? these are international laws that the usa ignores, because by international law, USA is 400 times more genocidal than nazi germany was in regards to its natives, and USA should be abolished just like nazi germany was. read the genocide convention, pal. there is no statute of limitations on genocide.
p.s. the only thing the military ever stood for was killing babies.

I don`t think it would be feasible to try to get into the base, unless you were supposed to be there. I sometimes think about if I was in some sort of `I am Legend` situation..That would probably be the best situation to explore the base..given the base was vacant and not still be guarded. I would probably spend little time exploring the `mainside` of the base (the one i`m sure most everyone has looked at in google earth..the one with the baseball diamond :-)..) I think I would go check out Papoose Lake to see if Bob Lazar was being truthful about the hangars there and the ufos being stored there... But for the most part it would probably be quite dangerous to explore the base, given the fact that the area used to be used for atomic testing..and the fact that they were and probably still are burning hazardous waste. Unfortunately, I get the feeling that if I did get to explore the base, I`d be truly dissapointed and not find anything :-)

This reminds me of a thread here a couple of years ago. Trying to gather 1000s of people to set underway a massive bum-rush of Area 51, cars, people running, bicycles, whatever means available. The reasoning was that there would not be time for Area 51 security to address all the intruders at the same time, the surviving intruders would then take pictures to send out live immediately... LUCKILY the idea never got beyond planing stage.

Anyone think a massive bum-rush of Area 51 is even feasible? What would actually take place? A massive bloodbath? I thought the idea sounded desperate at best. The only answer would be how far the government would be willing to go to protect Area 51 secrets. How far would they go?

Originally posted by jca2005

Originally posted by SANTARII
Unless the military can erase everyones minds then there will be alot of stuff in the news, even if they can, "Thousands of people lose there memories for a day"

This isn't men in black.

ya i know, thats why i said that it would be in the news becuase they CANT erase minds, plz re-read my post.

how about we all go practice on bf2/css/cs/sf

also, BUMRUSH FTW!!!!

u could possobly do a raid on area 52 but u would really have to Know what u are doing
and you need alot of people u also need soe people that are or were in the military

reply to post by rudigerfoodiger



what a fool you are.
don't buy into the taglines.
all the murderous things soldiers do all over the world have nothing to with my rights, or my freedom. why don't you come up with an original thought instead of spewing out the army propoganda.
I'm sorry, but even if all the murder and the genocide and the harm done by us soldiers somehow did protect my "rights" - not worth it. screw my rights. I'd rather all soldiers drop dead, than have them do harm in my name or with "my rights" as a justification for all the evil things they do.
your stupid little army slogans make no sense and they never did. I'm sorry you have no original thoughts, or any old lies that are stuck in your head that actually make sense. Why don't you leave the thinking to the dissidents and the unpatriotic conspiracy theorists - you go watch more army commercials and keep believing in the slogans. next time you talk to me at least come up with an original thought, not the same non logical bs i've had to listen to my whole life.
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ok first off if we dont have soilders fighting for our rights, they are fighting for our freedom, they fight so we dont have countries invading us and ruling over us , if we didnt have soilders then we would be living a Lifetime like jews in a nazi camp, you need to stop and realize how much our lives would be affected if we didnt have soilders that fought for our freedom,

WHEN IS THE BIG HIT ON AREA 51 JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAHAHA COVER ME FROM THE EAST AND THE SOUTH THATS WERE HAHAHAHA THE GUNS ARE MAKE SURE YOU TAKE OUT THE SNIPERS AND THE HELICOPTER GUNNERS HAHAHAHA BUT FORREALS IF YOUR DOWN THEN IM DOWN JUST LET ME KNOW

Originally posted by rudigerfoodiger
Oh, so you are in the military - that explains everything. I'm sorry, but your opinions are less valuable than mine because yours are not your own - they are the military's. I'm afraid you are mistaking your military indoctrination for your worldview. How exactly are my views of the world uneducated? is your boot camp a better education than my college degree?
military lies are not the truth, goosestepper. it isn't an absolute truth that you defend freedom or anybody's rights. you don't even defend people's lives. you take them. all those military lies about freedom and rights are things soldiers lie to themselves about to distract from the obvious truth - you kill people. you are the opposite of heroes. you rep death and war and colonization.
Why would I move to Canada?
I'm an american indian. as in Native. As in - native americans have been resisting your cavalry and the us government and its soldiers since day one. some of us fled to mexico. some of us to canada. most of us were force marched by brainless soldiers like yourself to Oklahoma, which yes is where i reside.
the only rights native americans have are the rights to do exactly what we are told - at gunpoint - by soldiers like you.
so screw your lies about my rights, goosestepper. go murder people for my rights. i'm sure there are some babies who you need to kill for my rights. like the mai lai massacre. remember when vietnam veterans murdered an entire village, dozenz of babies, hundreds of raped women? that was for my rights i guess.
thanks, soldier. thanks for nothing.

Oh what a joke cmon Are you serious? has your mother been raped because shes indian? Have you been beaten and cast aside because you are Indian? You probably live on a res. You dont even pay taxes for godssake! what contribution do you make to this country? Im in the military as well I defend my country you know, the place that I live my home. yes I defend that. What do you defend? Murder? how can you fathom murder from protecting oneself? ok well the next time some towelhead points a gun at me ill be sure to set my gun down and apologize for trying to kill him. duh thats what you are supposed to do right?

Originally posted by rudigerfoodiger

p.s. the only thing the military ever stood for was killing babies.

Yup you caught me guess when i get home im going to have to tell my 3 year old daughter that her time has come. Get real man