Why let the 9/11 passengers roam freely?

This has always been the main thing about the whole entire official story. If we had to pick out one giant mistake that these hijackers(who were so thorough about every other detail) made. Actually, stopping them from hitting there last target.

If you think about it, how strange was it that they did this? Every movie or reenactment you have ever seen they (the highjackers) always have a few guys doing crowd control making sure no one goes for a gun or make a attempt to alert someone to whats taking place. Yet were told that even though there were actually so called "muscle teams" there to take over plane and presumably do crowd control. Yet we were told that these guys who are in the process of committing one of the worst attacks in history, just take the plane over and then basically come over the speakers and announce to everyone that they have "some" planes and that yes were all headed back to the terminal to meet up and have our demands met, and I will now take the seatbelt signs off and you may move freely throughout the plane. I dont know about you but to me that just doesnt sound right or even make sense. Even in a robbery whether its a gas station or a bank if theres people in the location the first thing you do is get everyone under control. Betty Ong tells us that her plane(flight 11 which oddly enough not a single passenger called from) thought that there was a "routine medical situation" taking place. She also tells us though that they have sprayed mace and that she was at the back of the plane. Im curious to know how she convinced the rest of first class ,before she took them to the back of the plane, that they should disregard the man killed in front of them and the mace sprayed and please act as calm as Ms Betty Ong and dont let any of the other passengers know whats going on. I also wonder how Betty ongs story about the medical emergency went over with all the coach passengers once Atta announced that they had some planes????

I could go on with all the other strange calls from flight 175, flight 77, and the whole situation on flight 93 that was bound to happen when they decided to not do the very simple thing of crowd control.

well...if im ever on a plane that gets hijacked...im gonna fight for my life...#, if your going down either way at least go down swinging...

when atta made the annoncement he was speaking to air traffic control, not the passengers.

i had both of the quotes verbatim and posted them in another thread, i cant find them.

it prettymuch seemed like atta was intending to speak with air traffic control, but the second 'intercepted call' was intended for passengers.

Well, not that i'm a terrorist or anything but it's all tactical.

In order for that extent of crowd control on a 747, you'd need a fair few people, in otherwords - you'd need to get past customs with 10 or so guys, provided they're all using handguns and not assault rifles.

It's too conspicous, basically.

At that point in time - pre 9/11, hijacks were never intended for the aircraft to be used as a weapon. The plans were always either to use the occupants for some sort of leverage in negations or they literally needed a vehicle (aircraft) to get to point B.

Maybe that is just the way the passengers had been programmed by experience through media. The crowd control consisted of 'we have bombs' and 'you're just caught up in this, behave.' Whoever pulled the act's of on that day - you gotta admit the strategies involved will go down in history.

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Unknown: (Unreadable) We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be O.K. We are returning to the airport.

Unknown: Nobody move, everything will be O.K. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.

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What makes you think he was trying to communicate with the air traffic controllers?

Originally posted by Boone 870
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Unknown: (Unreadable) We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be O.K. We are returning to the airport.

Unknown: Nobody move, everything will be O.K. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.

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What makes you think he was trying to communicate with the air traffic controllers?

This was exactly what I was going to say Boone, there is no way in hell that what Atta said that morning was meant for the air traffic control. You may be right that it didnt go to the cabin, im not sure how the intercom works, maybe someone qualified can let us know here in the thread. BUT, we have no clue if Atta realized his mistake after ATC tried to respond to him and went ahead and repeated over the cabin speakers.

To the other poster Throbber, Im not sure I follow your line of thought with the whole needing 10 ppl to control 30 to 60 people. Yes I agree that most would believe through past experience that sitting tight and not rocking the boat would be the correct thing to do. Which all the more points to the fact that you would only need one....possibly two people to sit in front of all the people and tell them to "shut up, dont move..this will be over soon once we land" and I would think that pretty much every person would sit there quietly.

This is not what happened though as we are told...were told that basically on all of the planes they were told to move to the back of the plane. It would seem that there wasnt even anyone watching them ...or if there was he was letting them do what they wanted....especially on flight 93.

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It is my understanding that there is only one button to depress on the yoke of the aircraft that activates the pilots microphone. John Lear and I were discussing this in another thread.

Apparently, you have to switch the control on the radio communication panel to determine with whom you're communicating. There are two separate ATC radios, passenger cabin, galley phone, and airline ground communications on that panel.

On the planes I used to work on the switch for the radio was a two position rocker switch. If you pushed it one way it went to radio, the other way it went to intercom. It was pretty easy to forget which was which if you didn't have a lot of experience with it. You could also set it so that either position was intercom to prevent you from accidentally transmitting over the radio.

As for crowd control, that's what the flight crews did pre-911. They were trained to keep passengers calm and in their seats, and to give the hijackers what they wanted. Their goal was to keep the passengers alive, and get on the ground where they could either be negotiated free, or the plane could be controlled and stormed if necessary.