Biblical Prophecy: New interpretation? Interesting

94-10-16 Session:

Q: (L) On the subject of the 666, I was given an insight into this several years ago as to another meaning of it, is that interpretation also correct?
A: Maybe. VI is 6 in Roman Numerals. S was 6 in ancient Egypt. A was 6 in Sanskrit. VISA, see, is 666. Interesting that to travel for extended periods one needs a "visa" also, yes?

Session Continued:

Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his heads..." What does this verse mean?
A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents universal control of whole units of value.
Q: (L) So, the ten horns represent units of value, so we are talking about money here. What are the blasphemous titles on his heads?
A: In God we trust.
Q: (L) "And the beast that I saw resembled a leopard..."
A: New World Order.
Q: (L) "And to him the dragon gave his might and power and great dominion..." Who is the dragon?
A: Read again please.
Q: (L) "And the beast I saw resembled a leopard..." What does the leopard signify?
A: Leopard is fast moving and distinctly patterned.
Q: (L) "His feet were like those of a bear..." what do the feet represent?
A: Russia.
Q: (L) Why are the feet like those of a bear?
A: Hidden power center in that geographic location.
Q: (L) What nature this power center?
A: Same as USA. Feet are not so easily seen.
Q: (L) Does this mean that Russia and the US are secretly united?
A: Under same control.
Q: (L) Are these the Lizards?
A: At the root.
Q: (L) "His mouth was like that of a lion..." What does mouth represent and why is it like a lions?
A: Noisy and boastful.
Q: (L) Who is noisy and boastful and how is this going to manifest?
A: Economic power structure. Lion is powerful and commands attention by roaring. Who has been speaking loudly about a new world order?
Q: (L) The United States?
A: Close. Elements of same.
Q: (L) "One of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound, but his death stroke was healed and the whole earth went after the beast in amazement and admiration..." What does it mean that one of his heads seemed to have a deadly wound?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) The aliens will seem to be a deadly wound to the Beast?
A: Initially.
Q: (L) "But his death stroke was healed, and the whole earth went after the Beast with amazement and admiration..." What does this mean?
A: Initial fear gives way to worship and admiration.
Q: (L) "They fell down and gave homage to the dragon because he had bestowed on the beast all of his dominion and authority..." Who is this dragon?
A: World Body Politic.
Q: (L) And who is this Beast?
A: New World Order aka Brotherhood aka Lizzies aka antichrist.
Q: (L) "The Beast was given the power of speech uttering boastful and blasphemous words and was given freedom to exert his authority and exercise his will during 42 months..."
A: Timing is open. Power of speech is self explanatory in terms of audio and video media.
Q: (L) "And he opened his mouth to speak slanders against God blaspheming his name and his abode even vilifying those who live in heaven..." Does this mean that this group, this beast are going to...
A: Disseminate disinformation with respect to encouraging worship, loyalty and obedience to antichrist.
Q: (L) "He was further permitted to wage war on God's holy people and to overcome them and power was given him to extend his authority over every tribe and people and every tongue and nation..." Does this means trials and tribulations of those who refuse to submit?
A: No. See previous answer.
Q: (L) "And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation of the world..." What are "those whose names are recorded in the Book of Life... what is the Book of Life?
A: Supercomputer.
Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who are going to worship the Beast are names that have not been recorded... does that mean that there is a supercomputer recording the names of those who do not worship the beast?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?
A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient or disobedient.
Q: (L) Who is this "Lamb?"
A: Beast.
Q: (L) "If anyone is able to hear let him listen: whoever leads into captivity will himself go into captivity; if anyone slays with the sword, with the sword will he be slain... herein is the call for the patience and fidelity of the saints (God's people)... "Who are God's people?
A: All.
Q: (L) What does it mean: "Whoever leads into captivity will go into captivity?"
A: Follow the leader.
Q: (L) If they follow the leader they will become captive and if they fight with the leader they will be killed?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) "Then I saw another Beast rising up out of the land; he had two horns like a lamb and he spoke like a dragon..." What does this signify?
A: Other faces of the same entity.
Q: (L) What does it mean that he had two horns like a lamb? A lamb doesn't have horns. Why does it say he has horns?
A: Confusion by contradiction.
Q: (L) And what does the lamb represent? A: Same face of the Beast. Q: (L) What does it mean he "spoke like a dragon"??
A: Same.
Q: (L) "He exerts all the power and right of control as the former beast in his presence and causes the earth and those who dwell upon it to exalt and deify the beast whose deadly wound was healed and worship him..." Well, it seems to say that there is a second beast that is different from the first beast but you are saying that it is just another face of the beast...
A: Yes. Look at it this way, aliens one face; God another; government another et cetera.
Q: (L) Did you mean to say that God was another face of the beast?
A: As represented by religion.
Q: (L) "He performs great signs, startling miracles, even making fire fall from the sky to the earth in men's sight.." What does that mean?
A: Aliens perform "miracles".
Q: (L) And what is the "image" of the Beast?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) What does it mean to have been wounded by the sword and still live?
A: Perceived as scary then Godlike.
Q: (L) "And he was permitted to impart the breath of life into the Beast's image so that the statue of the beast could actually talk and to cause all to be put to death that would not bow down and worship the image of the beast." What does this mean?
A: Total control once deception is complete.
Q: (L) "Compels all alike, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be marked with an inscription on their right hand or on their foreheads...." What is this inscription?
A: Visa ID number.
Q: (L) Is this going to be actually physically put on our bodies?
A: Encoded.
Q: (L) How? Is that what the aliens do when they abduct people?
A: No.
Q: (L) How is it going to be done?
A: Stamped.
Q: (L) By what technical means?
A: Electronic encoding.
A series of numbers.
Q: (L) Are they going to put these on our skins or imbed them in the skin on our heads or hand...?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Does that mean that you will have to place your hand on an electronic scanner in order to conduct any type of monetary transaction?
A: Precisely.
Q: (L) Okay, it says: "Here is room for discernment, a call for the wisdom of interpretation, let him who has intelligence, penetration, insight enough calculate the number of the Beast, for it is a human number, the number of a certain man, his number is 666. What does this mean?
A: Visa as explained previously. Everyone will get their own number and it will be a Visa number, the number of the Beast.
Q: (L) "Then I looked and Lo! the lamb stood on Mount Zion and with him 144,000 men who had his name and his father's name inscribed on their foreheads..." What does that mean?
A: ID. The Lamb is the Leadership council of the world bank. Many will think they are taking the "mark" of God when actually being marked by the Beast.
Q: (L) "And I heard a voice from Heaven like the sound of great waters and like the rumbling of might thunder and the voice I heard seemed like the music of harpists accompanying themselves on their harps..." What is this voice from heaven and the sound like great waters and mighty thunder?
A: The return of Christ.
Q: (L) "And they sing a new song... No one could learn to sing that song except the 144,000 who had been ransomed from the earth... you said the 144,000 are the leaders of the world bank and here it says they have been ransomed from the earth at the coming of Christ... it says the 144,000 have not defiled themselves by relations with women for they are pure as virgins. These are they who follow the Lamb wherever he goes...they have been ransomed..."
A: Symbolism added later and this is not entirely accurate point. The symbols have been mixed. Tends to encourage elitism and divisiveness.
Q: (L) Are the 144,000 good guys or bad guys as we would term them?
A: Both. But they are ones who have supreme knowledge.
Q: (L) Are these human beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) There will be 144,000 people on the earth who have supreme knowledge?
A: Approximately.
Q: (L) Now, this 144,000, are we among that number? Just curious.
A: Maybe.
Q: (L) "No lie was found to be upon their lips for they are blameless, spotless, untainted without blemish. And I saw another angel flying in midair with an eternal gospel to tell to the inhabitants of the earth, every race and tribe and people, and he cried with a mighty voice: Revere God and give him glory, for the hour of his judgment has arrived, fall down before him, pay him homage and adoration and worship him who created heaven and earth and the sea and the springs of water..." What does this tell us?
A: Added later by questionable source.
Q: (L) "Then a second angel followed declaring: Fallen, fallen is Babylon the Great, she who made all nations drink of the wine of her passionate unchastity..." Who is Babylon and what does it mean she has fallen?
A: Same as previous answer.
Q: (L) "Another angel followed, a third, saying with a mighty voice saying whoever pays homage to the beast and permits his stamp to be put on his forehead or on his hand he too shall have to drink of the wine of God's indignation and wrath poured undiluted into the cup of his anger, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the lamb..."
A: Disinformation. Intended to create fear and resistance so that the aliens can feed off of these emotions.
Q: (L) "Again I looked and lo! I saw a white cloud and sitting on the cloud one resembling a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp scythe in his hand..." Is that further additions?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) "Another angel came out of the temple saying with a mighty voice to the one sitting on the cloud: put in your scythe and reap for the hour has arrived to gather the harvest for the earth's crop is fully ripened..."
A: More fear based disinformation.
Q: (L) Now, I have compared certain passages of Revelations to the work of Immanuel Velikovsky, were those sections accurate in what they describe?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And those are events that will transpire after the Lizzies have done their thing, after the Visa is in place, and before or after Christ returns?
A: Before.
Q: (L) So the cluster of comets is going to come before the return of Christ??
A: Yes. But return is just one event not the whole thing.
Q: (L) Is there going to be massive disruption on the planet and maybe a lot of people transitioning out of the body simultaneously because of the interaction of this cluster of comets and the earth.
A: Close.
Q: (L) And, shortly following this event, Christ will return?
A: As part of the whole.
Q: (L) That is going to be part of the cluster of comets activity?
A: After.
Q: (L) What is Christ going to do after he returns?
A: Teach.
Q: (L) How many people are going to be on the planet to receive this teaching?
A: Open.
Q: (L) May we assume there will be six billion?
A: Assume as you please.
Q: (L) You keep saying that the return of Christ is a part of the whole as though there is some important thing that I am missing the question to discover. Consider that question asked... tell me what it is I am missing, please.
A: Obvious if you have been paying attention.
Q: (L) And that is...?
A: The transition to 4th density.
Q: (L) Is the transition to 4th density going to happen before the comets or after?
A: After.
Q: (L) Is the interaction of the comets and the planet earth going to....
A: Precede the transition.
Q: (L) Is it going to generate this change in some way?
A: No.
Q: (L) It's not going to have anything to do with electromagnetic interactions which would heighten the atomic vibrations of the planet?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the comets are going to make a mess of things and then the transition is going to come as Christ comes?
A: Before.
Q: (L) The transition will happen and we will all be standing around glazed in the eyes or whatever, wondering what to do with ourselves, because we are finding ourselves in a new estate we have not been in before, and then Christ comes?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) Now, what is going to happen after Christ comes back and everything is sort of straightening out and he is teaching... is everybody on the planet going to be gathered together in one place to receive these teachings?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he going to travel around and teach?
A: Technology.
Q: (L) He will teach via the media?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And we are still going to have access to our media, television and radio and so forth?
A: Some.
Q: (L) Are some people at that point in time or just prior to this transition, going to leave in large groups with the Lizzies?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are there going to be large groups of people moving into domed cities on the planet living in "cahoots" with the Lizzies?
A: Close.
Q: (L) In other words there may be areas of Lizzie control on the planet and areas under the control of Christ?
A: Christ does not control.
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What do you guys think? I see no problems with this one, it actually makes more sense than the others I've heard so far.

confused to say the least....but thanks for posting it.

aliens, reptoids, nwo, jesus??? it seems this point of view is basically trying to combine everything ever thrown out there to form a new theory.

not very convincing to me.

Originally posted by lilblam
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea

The bible I received it says: "And the Dragon placed itself on the beach by the sea". I see there is a grand conspiracy here, but who changed it in the first place?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

I could clear this up though im only using what the bible tells us. none of us can figure apocolypse out the the exact
tee, thats why god made it confusing so we would be on our heals not knowing when the exact day would happen.



"" 666 ""


means probably the number of man 6-6-6-, mans number, satans number, the number on the Bar code system that is hidden in the code. A number which signifies
(short of perfecion, or imperfection) a number which all sinners who hate God will have according to the book of life.



"" One of its heads was mortaly wounded ""


since this head is one of the seven, then i think it was John Paul ll who was shot in 1981 and healed, later in apoc it says that these heads represent seven hills which the whore o babylon sits. I am catholic but what im talking about is V2 council which has
destroyed our church since it began teaching not catolic messages since 1960s. Rome has seven hills.

That would be my guess, not claiming to be right, just saying this is what sems logical to me.


Also some one pointed to me that a day is like 1,000 years to God, and apocolypse says babylon will be destroyed in one hour, if 1 day is 1,000 years, than 1 hour would be 42 years, V2 a different church
than the church ofthe past began in the 1960s.


I don't knowif it has any meaning but its interesting.



"" ten horns ""


probably ten nations rules by antichrist.




all in all, these days will grow shorter and the world will eventually be desolate from corner to corner. if any time was to get in good graces with God it would be now, not
out of fear but out of justice.




Peace.

that was an interesting take on the whole mark of the beast prophecy etc,
how did you come by this info?

an Index or a sort of Concordance (like with Bible)
would be helpfull,
to tie together the whole story (theory?)

and explain, amplify, weave a supporting network...
~~

Is? 4th Destiny....? akin to Hopi Tradition?..? 4th Reich? NWO?...?Kali Yuga (commenced in 1942)?? re; Truth meme/ time relation of-> Godtime v. earthtime= '42' is 1hr

* note: 100 days X 24 hrs X 60 sec. = 144,000 *

Originally posted by mikromarius

Originally posted by lilblam
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea

The bible I received it says: "And the Dragon placed itself on the beach by the sea". I see there is a grand conspiracy here, but who changed it in the first place?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Actually that depends on the bible.
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Revelation 13:1 :: New International Version (NIV)
1And the dragon[1] stood on the shore of the sea.

Revelation 13:1 :: New American Standard Bible (NASB)
And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a (1) beast coming up out of the sea, having (2) ten horns and (3) seven heads, and on his horns were (4) ten diadems, and on his heads were (5) blasphemous names.

etc...

Originally posted by psycosrus
that was an interesting take on the whole mark of the beast prophecy etc,
how did you come by this info?

Research... lots of research for "truth". And this website was one of the best I've seen (if not the best) on the internet so far. www.cassiopaea.org...

Take it with a grain of salt, but it has tons of stuff that just makes sense, if you don't let previous belief interfere. So far, it's the only one that doesn't fall into my "disinfo" category, but that's just my opinion. It is up to the individual to decide the legitimacy of this site, as with everything else.

Originally posted by mikromarius

Originally posted by lilblam
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea

The bible I received it says: "And the Dragon placed itself on the beach by the sea". I see there is a grand conspiracy here, but who changed it in the first place?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

The bible is an interpretation based on interpretations. It has been revised several times as well. I have two bibles that say say two different things in many cases. For instance Genesis 7:20, there are two completely different interpretations of that line.

Originally posted by lilblam

Originally posted by mikromarius

Originally posted by lilblam
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea

The bible I received it says: "And the Dragon placed itself on the beach by the sea". I see there is a grand conspiracy here, but who changed it in the first place?

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Actually that depends on the bible.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Revelation 13:1 :: New International Version (NIV)
1And the dragon[1] stood on the shore of the sea.

Revelation 13:1 :: New American Standard Bible (NASB)
And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore. Then I saw a (1) beast coming up out of the sea, having (2) ten horns and (3) seven heads, and on his horns were (4) ten diadems, and on his heads were (5) blasphemous names.

etc...

But it's interresting that most people seems to have bibles where it's written: "I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea"

Do you realise the spiritual implications that small twist makes? Him who adds or subtracts.......

It can only be compared with King James's Hell is Hades is Hell policy. It's damnation of all man kind.

Blessings,
Mikromarius

[Edited on 27-1-2004 by mikromarius]

[Edited on 27-1-2004 by mikromarius]

There is the school of thought that says the internet WWW (in Hebrew#6 Vav,Vav,Vav) =666