"We are Gathering"

you can take my words with a grain of salt, really....rantings from a mad women or whatever....

but, I don't buy the idea that there are trillions of different timelines each one a little different than the others, based on what decisions were made...

to me, at any point in time, there may be many, many different timelines in developement, the strength of each dependant on just how much energy is put into it by individuals...as time goes, some are discarded, others just don't have enough energy being exerted to come into being, and in the end just one is left with enough to manifest.....the rest might exist for a time, but will slowly disappate back into the main timeline. I exist in many different times on earth, and in many different dimensions. I can reach back though my sub-concious and reach out to my prior selves, and well, my future selves can do the same and reach back to me. so, if I am having a problem with someone in this life, and it's source is an unresolved issue with this person back in another time, I can, through the interaction with my prior self, resolve this conflict long before I come into being in the now. and my future self can do the same. we can also strengthen future and past selves in this way.....or create set times when amazing things can happen, which is what the belief in Jesus actually does...focal points where millions upon millions of people through the ages have focused their attention at certain points in time, upon one person, lending him strength and hope. the return of jesus, 2012, ect......these are set times in the future where many people have focused their attention, if that attention was filled with hope, expectations of great things happening, well, some amazing things could very well happen.
occasionally, the timeline does branch off, and well, it could very well in the near future. but this is when the people are so polarized, that their will to get away from those that aren't like them is enough to branch it...then, you will get something similar to what is referred to as the rapture. the two timelines will have to in time reconnect, but both timelimes have the energy to exist, and neither has so much more as to "trump" the other one, overpower it or whatever.
playing with the timeline, creating one that is more pleasing to you isn't that difficult, as long as you think small and don't try to change it in ways that will create changes that others don't wish to occur. thus, I built a timeline, designed my home to my wishes, visulized it, ect....and eventually have found it....
but, I couldn't visualize a world without proverty, without war, without sickness and the rest, not without alot of help, and quite frankly, too many people like those things in it, they all make them $$$.

reply to post by dawnstar


i think that is an accurate assessment of timelines and focus of energy collectively. so what do you make of the messages here of a gathering? is this an 11th hour frequency call?

This world, bloody, sought after, deep away from the others, nice and remote. perception is all, all is perception, perhaps the universe is fuelled by mystery, confusion, ignorance and chaos. Perhaps without entropy, it would collapse. What use is a journey when you are everywhere? When old selves talk to you in old tongues, perhaps the prize of wisdom will make you strive to learn the tongue, no matter how hard. Knowledge is a drug, an addiction. Once you learn to utter, scry and cast your first tongue, so begins your eternal thirst for knowledge. Alas, the more learnt the more to learn. Curiosity grows in me, a great danger perhaps, knowing myself: knowing all I know, I habit always pushing the boundaries. Tears will be shed.

Balance shall always exist, the scales can be shaken and shifted, but the balance will be shifted elsewhere. Perhaps we gather in defiance against balance, perhaps we gather to share knowledge, perhaps we gather to fight off a spiritual enemy or perhaps we gather to rid this world of all that is wrong. What perplexes is that due to the concept of escalation and balance, what is equal to tens of millions of old spirits?

“They gather. It is almost ready”

don't have any idea really...there's been gatherings on the earth, and in the other realms for while.....I think I participated in some while clinton was in the white house, so it's been going on for that long at least...
you also have a bunch of new agers gathering all over the world, opening gateways, activating the power centers, ect....
there's been lots of gatherings taking place.

of course, ya know, yous might just be picking up on the group consciousness from those in the middle east, they are gathering, their leaders....to discuss peace. this was forming in the other realms before it manifested here on earth....
who knows, maybe they might even be some unseen uninvited guest to their meetings, or well, what the heck, maybe a few of the old gods will let themselves be seen.


[edit on 27-11-2007 by dawnstar]

RE "the gathering" - anything is possible. i am just waiting for the curtain to go up - cause the pre-act is quite a bore!

'The closer our thoughts come to eternity the less time we will experience'

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well, i am pretty spacey so that suits me just fine

Originally posted by Vipassana
reply to post by euclid

 

This type of thinking and response gets you no where...

You can choose to ignore the message of truth, or disagree with it all together. But attacking someone like this is totally immature.

FYI:

I never ignore any message of Truth. There are some who have posted in this thread that I do believe are "partially enlightened", "on the road to enlightenment"; but I'm sorry esoteric-mumbo-jumbo does not cut it for me and I am pointing out what I see from mangords posts.... ala frequency shifts, etc.

If he actually made any sense I might actually agree with something he says but to this point he hasn't made one lick of sense.

And it wasn't an attack. It was my current opinion of him based on his posts.

-Euclid

Originally posted by enigmania
Euclid, don't be afraid to be left out just because you can't feel what most people in this thread feel. Once the time is ripe you will see it. Until then, please stop with spewing your negativity in this thread. It's of no use to any of us and it makes you look petty. If it's too much for you then don't come in here.

Thank you..... I won't. I lost track of the thread for a while but now I'm back and catching up. It doesn't look much different from the time I started to ignore it.

And further, I have seen "it". I have transcended the "Veil" or the "Abyss" to use some of the "new age mumbo jumbo" terminology used in this thread.

We each have a "Path" to travel. The Thelemites/Satanists call it "Will, the Taoists call it "Tao", the Christians call it "Born Again", others refer to it as simply "Enlightenment". There are a lot of names for "it". There are lots of methods to attain "it". Some of the methods are just plain nonsense and others are very practical.

I'm not being negative. I'm just pointing out BS when I see it.

-Euclid

Originally posted by enigmania
reply to post by sigung86

 

I like it how you conveniently disregard the fact that most people in this thread seem to know what he is talking about and a lot of them had the exact same experience. You actually just insulted the integrety of almost all people in this thread.
Menguard maybe went a bit overboard with his poetic comments, but you can't just disregard all the other people.

I'll tell you the problem..... IF the "experiences" that some of you had were real and not the product of your imaginations you would have all the answers you need. There would be no NEED to find answers here at ATS.

NOW for the record: I've had the experience. It was so strong that it lead me to quit my job in 1993 and travel the world for several months of meditation in places like Greece and Egypt. I met with what would be called "spirit guides" (using the current new age mumbo jumbo that some identify with) while I was in Greece on the island Paros instructing me go to the Island of Thira.

I did. And my mission was plainly explained to me in a "Circle" with what can only be called "Spirits". My mission is not to save the world or make any grand oratories on the Path that others are to take to Enlightenment. My Path is my own, it was always mine. My mission does not exclude me from pointing out when others are being led astray by nonsense.

So, as I said, if you did not get the info you needed to know the: what, when, where, how, why and who; concerning your experience then it (your experience) has been corrupted by AOL (analytic overlay)..... i.e. - your conscious mind has corrupted the data stream. Your conscious mind has interjected with on-the-fly analysis of the information and mangled the message that was given to you. I have posted what AOL is before in this thread. If you want to know how to overcome AOL so you can dispense with new age rhetorical mumbo jumbo and get to the MEAT of any "real" anomalous cognitive experiences then U2U me and I'll tell you what to do.

-Euclid

Originally posted by mortalengine

Originally posted by euclid
FYI:

mengaurd, If you really recieved the message then you wouldn't need to be asking a bunch of questions because:

1. you would know where to meet
2. you would be in contact with all the others already via direct-thought
3. you would know who all the others are
4. you would know all the who, what, when, why and how of the message and what it all means
5. you would not need to post here to attempt to figure it out

therefore, if you don't know what it is all about then you are obviously insane or attempting to play with peoples heads here on the board.

-Euclid

Dude it doesnt work like that, the spiritual does not work in where, what, when, how and why's. Its not an eternity of facts. Its feelings ... blegh theres no point explaining here, wait for the roll call - its easier that way. You're already doing the best you can anyway, as are we all. All is well, always has been.

As a matter of fact the Multiverse is quite orderly and understands completely as I have lain out in the above quote. There is an ancient Hermetic Axiom "As above so below, as below so above". There is structure in the All. It is all very orderly and verbose. If you ask an unambigious question of the Multiverse (i.e. God) you will get an answer. It is the Christian concept of "ask and you shall recieve". If the Multiverse offers you a message it will be completely unambigious and you will know exactly what to do. If the information you seem to recieve is ambigious. Then there is a problem.... it could be AOL (analytic overlay) or a spirit of questionable integrity attempting to mislead you.

-Euclid

Originally posted by mortalengine

Originally posted by euclid

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal

Originally posted by euclid

It is our conscious minds' attempting to interpret data that it has recieved from our unconscious mind.

If the mind was "unconscious" it would not be able to relay and receive any information. Our minds are eternally "conscious" at different levels of awareness.

[edit on 23-10-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

You have absolutely no idea what you are saying. .....

The fact is; humans are biological machines. Our neural structure is nothing more than a highly sophisticated network for data aquisition, data analysis, data retrival and data transfer.

-Euclid

Dude, no offence, you seem to be quite intelligent but you certainly are quite the malicious little fellow arent you ? Whether or not you believe yourself to be correct and everyone else to be wrong is irrellevant. If you are alone in your beliefs, of what comfort is it to you ?

Please remember that we can never KNOW the truth, only experience it, therefore we can never truly be certain of anything. It's just quite saddening to read post after post by you tearing down everyone's beliefs and viewpoints. Not everyone is as hard-headed and emotionally un-yielding as you, you might actually be causing more damage than good here. Knowledge is great, but if you're going to use that knowledge to cut into pieces those whom you want to help, of what good is it ?

Ease up a little ?

[edit on 29-10-2007 by mortalengine]

I'm sorry you are saddened. If I am tearing down beliefs structures I can not say that I am sorry for it.

There is buddhist school of thought (the particular name escapes me at the moment); its core principal concerning the path to enlightenment is what can only be explained as "violent enlightenment". It takes the form of actual physical abuse by teacher to student (i.e. the monk hitting the student on the head while trying to meditate or study) and by tearing down the fallacies, pre-conceived notions, belief systems of the student. I subscribe to this method by default. It may seem abrasive but it is my Tao.

The essence of the Multiverse is violence and conflict - it seems like a bad thing at first consideration but when one realizes that from violence and conflict unity and peace are born (and vice versa) it will begin to make sense.

-Euclid

[edit on 3-12-2007 by euclid]

Originally posted by livingword26

Originally posted by euclid

You have absolutely no idea what you are saying. You have no idea how information is assimilated into our brain or how it is processed once it has been "downloaded". And you have no idea how large-scale information systems work. All systems function the same way. The multiverse is embedded with data. It is the Word/Logos spoken of in many ancient texts. The Word made flesh is all that is around us - the data embedded into the multiverse "rendered" in multiple dimensions.


-Euclid

The "Word made flesh", as referred to in the bible at least, is referring to Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world. I am not aware of Him being referred to as "the Word" in other ancient texts.

Joh 1:1-14
(1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God............................

.........................(14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I understand what you are implying as an interpretation of what is meant by the usage of "the Word". Understanding it as I understand it would reaquire a long dissertation of my personal philosophy which is an amlagamation of science and philosophy. Suffice to say I disagree. The Bible as it has been rendered into English is woefully inaccurate. That particular verse is originally in Greek. The Greek word that the english translators used for "the Word" was "logos". Logos is the "basis" for thought and speech.... In an arcane science called Information Theory there must be "information" before there can anything else...... i.e. it is the original data that is embedded within the entire multiverse. It is the information that "God" used to "speak" (i.e. create) all that is.

Later in that book of the Bible the writer does equate Logos with Christ. It is an analogy.... Christ was/is the microcosm of the macrocosm. A human imbued with the ability to tap into the vast quantum database of the multiverse and to use that data to modify his surroundings (i.e. heal, perform miracles). He was a very powerful being..... remember he said: "as I am so shall you become".

-Euclid

[edit on 3-12-2007 by euclid]

[edit on 3-12-2007 by euclid]

Originally posted by menguard

I do recall that the Earth was in 'Suspended Animation' for three months. This had happened I believe in 2005, where I had lost three months. I am curious if any others have had this happened or remember this large gap fly bye, like you were present but the date didn't just add up. You were present, but everything went on like normal, but you experienced some type of 'Time Distortion' or 'Time Condensement'.

It's as if I was allowed to remember, this event, while many others were sleeping through it.

And I asked myself, "how could Three months go bye without me noticing or others."


Ask yourselves, and see if you remember anything within that year that was really different. TRY TO REMEMBER.

Intersting..... this is the first post here that you have said anything that is accurate. Several "time loops" were broken and one of them was in 2005.
There was also one in 2000 and another in 2002.

There is an alternative to the "suspension" you experienced. I was reading a research paper on string-theory and the implications of collapsing timelines in that theory. It may be that as our part of the galaxy approaches the galactic plane we will experience more of these "loops/suspensions"; but they aren't really loops or suspensions of time...... they are timelines collapsing into one another as our system passes through that gravitational warping of space-time.... just a theory I've been toying with....

-Euclid

[edit on 3-12-2007 by euclid]

[edit on 3-12-2007 by euclid]

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You think or you know?

Originally posted by menguard
reply to post by euclid

 

You think or you know?

I know that I have experienced what I call "time line discrepencies". At first I thought they were time-loops..... I'm still researching it..... though now I'm leaning towards the collapsing time-line theory....

-Euclid

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Fair ENoUGh.

i am wondering, my birth date is 09-19-1990 (nines) i am a virgo and virgo is the sixth sigh in the zodiac, whats a six upside down? nine happens to be a significant number in my life, on cd's my fave track will be nine, the ninth day of a month will be a significant day, events, people i meet, and my ninth birthday was 09-19-1999 (9th b-day) thats six nines that are relevant 6 is 9 upside down, every product of nine when the numbers are added, equal nine, 9x1=9, 9x2=18(8+1=9), 9x3=27(2+7=9) so on and so forth, it even applies to numbers in the hundereds or 2 hundereds, if you'd like you can check any number times nine and add the answers numbers together untill you get a single number and i guarentee that number will be nine, anyway back to the relevance of this thread, i was listening to my iPod (track 99 ""coincidently"") and the very second the clock, on the ipod, cell phone, cable box, and my alarm clock (i have all my clocks set to the exact same time [thts not obsessive is it?]) turned to 9:54 (pm) i heard a message (not from the music) that overpowered the song that said "It Is Time", well... 9:54, 9 is nine and you may be thinking so whats the significance, any time in that hour would still be nine, whats 5+4? its not ten. can anyone give me any insight to this? or any link or referance to anywhere that details the number nine? or how my number nine could be related to this message?

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Do a google search for numberslady. She has a site that goes into all the numerology stuff. I can't say it doesn't mean anything but then again I can't say that it means anything either.

I see 111, 1111, 11, 22, 7 and all kinds various combinations of numbers that are purported to have occult significance.

It doesn't seem to make much difference in day to day life though.

-Euclid

9s are special people who will be sought after and they will lied and tricked to as much as the others can try. But the strong ones know the truth, and that nothing can change their destinies. Seduction is an evil tool, but it doesn't work for some. Bring it on!!!