the oldest UFO photograph ever taken

reply to post by Kilgour


Ouch! Adamski was a known faker! Don't trust anything that comes from his, his stories are BS and his pictures are even worse.




It looks like it should have been in button moon!!

Anyways, heres a great site with loads of old old old UFO pictures, worth a look!

www.ufocasebook.com...



[edit on 19-10-2007 by Smugallo]

Enlarged with Bicubic Interpolation. Highlights and Shadows enhanced.

If you put a gun to my head I'd say this is just damage which is to be expected on a pic this old. I have NOT altered the colors. As you can see that part of the photo is a mismatch. A Marker is a great guess.

I think the purchaser got hosed. I have some of those style photo's in my collection. This one was worth maybe $20 without the damage if both parts are intact. There are too many of these around.

If the cover story is true and the owner is so open; why such a low quality scan and why is it called large? Why not show a high quality scan. Perhaps a high quality large image would show it is just damage and ruin the mystery perhaps?

[edit on 10/19/2007 by Blaine91555]

reply to post by Blaine91555


Good stuff! i'm not an expert on photo's, perhaps you can clarify what you meant i'm not sure i understand your analyzation of he photo!

This pic has been on the net for a while and it's the same one you get on just about all the websites relating to this subject, it's a piy we cannot get a better scan, tere are definately no alternative images.

reply to post by Smugallo


Digital images are made up of square pixels. If you just zoom in the pixels get larger and you start to see them.

Bicubic Interpolation is an Algorithm used to increase the size of the photo without pixelation. It compares adjacent pixels and takes an average. There are a few different versions. As the new pixels are added they are composed of this average. In Bicubic it compares the pixel to the 8 pixels that surround it. This gives a good interpretation of what it would look like if you zoomed in farther with a camera.

I then enhanced the light areas and the dark areas to make the details stand out better.

The color is what was already there. As you can see the color of the damage is different than the rest of the photo. This could be a chemical burn, physical burn or another ink interacting with the surface of the photo.

reply to post by Smugallo


I should have mentioned, since this is a Monochromatic Image (one color plus white) this color difference indicates this is likely not part of the original photo.

reply to post by Blaine91555


And therefor the 'cigar' shape is likely to be damage to the original image?

You mean someone beat Tesla into the air or aether.

I would only consider the photos and witness accounts of the FOO
fighter in WWII and being some type of electric flying machine.

The rest can be fake for all I care.

For now all you see is photos of dark or bright blobs or ones on Utube
videos. Well some accounts are well documented like in Belgium, so there
isn't much to go on.

The cylinder may have preceded the FOO with its weak motor even though
more powerful motors would be required. Front and back placement of
motors seem evident if a submarine was levitated.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
The cylinder may have preceded the FOO with its weak motor even though
more powerful motors would be required. Front and back placement of
motors seem evident if a submarine was levitated.

Okay, you've lost me now. Can you please elaborate on what you just said because to me it sounds like you are trying to tell us what technology UFO's are using.

Not sure they would use 'motors' though.

reply to post by Smugallo


Perhaps part of my Utube channel write up can help:

www.delphion.com... www.delphion.com... www.delphion.com...
The plasma thruster, you mean lightning from a spark, is power to drive or is it current forced against a magnetic field. Use curl E = dB/dt for circle current and disc of light on ufos or even ball due to radial mag field of the spiral coil, up to one million volts, pinky by the lip, and lightning bright.

Yes you can fly around in the air with electricity.
It must be generated from inside the craft, Tesla at one time
wanted power to be delivered externally.

*snip*

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reply to post by Smugallo


Try looking at the Belgian Triangle type craft.

LARGE circular plasma coil in center is the main motor.
The three small motors now form apex motors of triangle craft.

FAKE data but real configuration. Or the Belgian Triangle is not real to you,
the most documented aether craft in history. Its on the net, the whole story.

reply to post by Smugallo


Here is what the Super Zeppelin would look like.


Might be fake, but the motors are at the extremities.

Did I post the TV rod one, same thing.

ED:See rod in this thread


[edit on 10/20/2007 by TeslaandLyne]

I am fairly certain that permanent markers were not available in 1870 or until long thereafter. They had pens that you dipped in ink. Mailbox w/posts, not back then you went to the post office to get your mail.

reply to post by TeslaandLyne


Still superficial, your evidence, or explanation holds about as much basis as most UFO photographs, nice theory though, but unfortunately your trying to tell me that all cigar shaped UFO's are powered my electrical motors.

very interesting i like the older pics more

Originally posted by aceace
Mailbox w/posts, not back then you went to the post office to get your mail.

Sure, but of course fence posts were everywhere.

reply to post by Smugallo


Exactly.. thats the theory or CT of the Tesla plans being stolen or used
since before 1900. The British knew of Tesla plasma experiments in a
1892 demonstration he gave them, its on the net.

The only evidence of plasma in the air in WWII was the FOO.
Now you see sparks in the sky on YouTube every day.
Most likely Belgian Triangle type aether or plasma craft.

If FOO and triangles are plasma craft, then so the the submarine or
cigar shaped or cylinder or super zeppelin. Some CT puts the Helium
in the engine for electrical power. Highly technical and advanced CT.
I wonder who would travel in the Super Zeppelin...I mean who among
us would be in one. Think about it... great CT.. sooooo cooool...

One thing everyone will notice about this photo is that at some point in the past someone scratched a Swastika on the exposed portion of the photo that shows the fence post.

That tells me that its likely someone took this picture of a fence post and years later someone else scratched a Swastika onto the photo in order to make it look like a photo of a NAZI Zeppelin. This most likely happened in the late 1930's before the war because the photo is supposedly from the U.S. although it certainly could have occurred later than that. However, there were no Zeppelins with Swastikas before 1933.

So the addition of the Swastika must have occurred after that year and more importantly it shows that someone many years ago was attempting to pass this photo off as a photo of a "mountain" and an "Airship" when it clearly was not.

Then of course there is Mt. Washington, NH itself, which is pretty distinctive and looks nothing like the snow bank photo in question no matter what year or season of photo you look at.

At any rate there is a good reason why this photo is labeled the "mystery airship" and not the 'mystery UFO'. That's because it's a hoax photo of "mystery airships" and the hoax likely predates the 'UFO' phenomena by a decade or so.

I'd think of it as the 'oldest known hoax photo' rather than the 'oldest known UFO photo'.



[edit on 20-10-2007 by lost_shaman]

Thats all very good, i see no swastika and the 'snow' bnk your reffering to is actually clouds.

reply to post by Smugallo


You know.......if this was taken in 1870......there were no UFO mass sightings back then, and so i don't see how someone would try to fake this in the first place....

reply to post by Smugallo


A lot of photos were released under FOIA requests... its been suggested
some doctoring may have taken place to lead people on.