Are seat belt laws apart of the NWO plot for world Domination?

Can I ask, if it was actually a choice to wear a seatbelt or not, what would you do? Because I'm pretty sure I'd still wear a belt.
So I don't really get the point to this. I'm pretty sure most people would still belt up simply because they value their lives. I don't see it as conditioning in any way. I see it as a pretty smart idea. Like wearing a bike helmet.

originally posted by: christmaspig
Can I ask, if it was actually a choice to wear a seatbelt or not, what would you do? Because I'm pretty sure I'd still wear a belt.

Exactly. Smart people would wear it anyway. They could still make them mandatory for children under the same kind of legal justification as not allowing children to drink and things like that.

Frankly, if you're not smart enough to wear your seatbelt, that's just natural selection at work.

If you do have a crash and its more sewer because you did not wear a seatbelt that puts additional strain on the healthcare system plasma resources and first responders. Wear your seatbelt.

a reply to: LDragonFire

Of all the laws passed by the New World Order to control us, I seriously doubt that seat belts are one of them. Some laws just happen to get passed because people are concerned. Not everything is about the NWO.

Here's my main question....

Since when has the government been about saving lives instead of controlling them? The answer isn't that simple....NWO Plot? Unlikely.... ulterior motives..sure I'll give you that.

A2D

a reply to: traderonwallst

I am pretty sure the states were pressured into passing such laws. Similar to the way they were pressured back in the 70's when they made the speed limit 55. Pass the law or you will not get any federal highway money.

Side note: When I started driving use of seat belts was not required. Seems to me I should be "Grandfathered". Not sure how this doesn't fall under ex post facto.

My relationship to power and authority is that I'm all for it. People need somebody to watch over them. Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave

~ Arnold Schwarzenegger

a reply to: LDragonFire

To me this should be a personal decision for adults to wear or not wear seat belts.

The point of this thread has nothing to do with whether or not seat belts save lives.

You stated it should be a personal decision and then you try to dictate the way the thread should go?
We have had mandatory seat belt laws in Western Australia since the 70's no big deal.

PS the NWO succeeded when the Feds started printing money in the early 20th century. You're a bit late.

a reply to: bigbert81

The point is that in a FREE country, we do what we want as long as it doesn't infringe upon others. People on this forum are being hypocritical, and this topic clearly demonstrates that.

How about forced childhood vaccinations - then the Govt bails out the pharmaceutical company in the event of adverse reactions. Govts bail out the bankers (GFC) with our tax dollars and people worry about seat belt enforcement, yep!

a reply to: LDragonFire

I'm not sure about Europe but in America 1 in 2 marriages end in divorce

Should Social Security be in Law? People make choices, if they cant work or have too many kids they should starve?

How far worshipping Ayn Rand do you want to go?

a reply to: AlphaHumana

wearing a seatbelt is not a victim-less crime because it makes everybody's insurance rates go up

I agree with wearing seatbelts

However it is a victim less crime. Since when was claiming on insurance a "crime"?

High medical costs would be alleviated if if doctors did their job right and not get sued. Most deaths in hospital are as a result of iatrogenic error, cant be bothered to look up the stats right now

a reply to: darkelf

If I suffer sight or hearing loss, it is obviously because I am not wearing my safety gear properly and I have no grounds for a suit.

The laws are not there to protect us. They are there to protect corporations from lawsuits.

True they do reduce insurance exposure. But are you saying you would risk your earning capacity and whether or not you went home to you family in one piece because it is the choice you want to make?

Driving is a privilege, not a right. If you don't like the rules...well, there's always 'two feet and a heartbeat' to fall back on. This is one stupid debate. Would this discussion not be more worthwhile if it were focused upon the Patriot Act, instead?

a reply to: LDragonFire

No Prohibition, the tax laws of the early 1900's, prostitution and gambling being made illegal where the first "for your own good" laws.

a reply to: LDragonFire

We are no where near a free people, we are free to conform or die or be imprisoned.

from

In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%.

We all have been conditioned to accept and pay income tax. Govts use that money to pay banks (usually the same banks that finance the other side as well) so they can keep fighting wars.

Whoever believes they are free lives with their head in the sand

originally posted by: sharati
reply to post by Files

 

Files, You know Seatbelts may save lives, and hell I would agree with you because a seatbelt saved my life, but just the same, a seatbelt killed my aunt... She got rear ended by a big truck, and the truck hit her so hard the seat belt cut her right open and the paramedics didn't get there in time to save her. I think it would be a good thing if wearing a seat belt would be optional... because then the people that are frail wouldn't die so easily. I hate cars now, and I hate seat belts even more... like I said one may have saved my life, but one killed a member of my family... that isn't right.

Its hard to understand why seat belts haven't been modified as this has been some common inherent injuries associated with seat belts.

What?

Seriously, what am I missing here?

The NWO or government want to make you conform to their ideas by making you wear a seatbelt or helmet? And not to prevent you from being dead or too injured to work?

You obviously have not been in an accident where your seat belt saved your life. And not a 25 mph fender bender, I mean a head on collision at 40 mph or faster.

Your case is flawed at best and delusional at worst.

Seat belts save lives. They prevent you from ending up a paraplegic or a vegetable. Or suffering some horrible injury that leaves you in unbearable pain the rest of your life.

You literally do not win anything if you go for a drive without a seat belt on and don't get into an accident. If you do and your face looks like hamburger meat afterwards, you still do not win anything.
Why is this even an issue?

I've seen the statement, "Smart people wear seat belts." and the attitude that it's okay for the government to make us do "smart" things.
So, let's look at another perspective in view of saving money on medical costs.
Smart people eat a healthy diet and maintain a healthy weight. Smart people get adequate sleep and exercise. As a result of this "smartness" they have lower health care costs than people who aren't so "smart."
So, are all you overweight, unhealthy eating couch potatoes ready for the government to make you "smarter" by dictating your everyday life, telling you what you can eat, how much sleep you must obtain each day and requiring documentation that you exercised as they say best? Are you ready to schedule your monthly visits to the local health department where you will be examined and deemed "smart" or "needing education"? Are you ready to begin paying the "Fat Tax" when, after repeated sessions of "education" to smarten you up, you are still overweight? And the "failed to exercise" taxes when you can't document that you did your cardio routine the required 4 times last week?
I'll bet you thought those FEMA camps were for anti-gubbermint fringe nutjobs? Nah, those are for the chronically fat. Your visit there will be paid for by your Obamacare health plan.
If you love the seat belt laws you're really going to be in utopia when the "Fat Taxes" are passed.

If you wish to wear a seatbelt, you should do so. But neither you nor anyone else should be able to make me wear one if it is my choice not to do so. If you truly believe that you have that kind of power over me, then I believe that I should have the power to require you by law to do what I've described above.

a reply to: LDragonFire A bit of history seat belts where first introduced into cars back in 1949 by Nash. However, they became a option back in 1958 for most American built cars. To wear or not wear a seat belt is still personal choice. However, I wear mine. Reason being seat belt saved my life. In 1968 I had my first vehicle. It was a 1956 Chevy truck. The first thing I did was add seat belts. Not knowing 6 months later they saved my life. I went through a 4 way I was T-Boned in the middle of the intersection. I spun around 360 degrees and came to rest in a church parking lot, after taking out a wood telephone pole. I would have been ejected from that truck if I had not worn seat belt. So IMO seat belt laws that are on the books are one that DO save lives. They are not some conspiracy.

Yes, we needed a way for people to get used to restraints, both choice wise and physically, in baby steps, of course this is no longer needed and has served it's purpose, but they haven't been removed because of safety benefits.