What is the NWO's reason for Smoking Bans?

Does anyone really know what the true reason is behind the push to stop smoking?

Many people may link it to causing a strain on the Health system, etc. A really simple solution from their angle is any health related issues caused by smoking is not covered.

Does nicotine or other chemicals in cigarettes prevent the effects on one of their diseases?

There is NO WAY this is because its good for our health, etc. because the push is on now to eliminate smoking in our homes, cars, etc.

Something is up.

I doubt it has anything to do with the NWO.. its the people that want smoking gone
people are sick of smokers blowing it in their face

reply to post by bluewagon


It's interesting that nicotine has been shown to be very beneficial to brain function and has been shown to relieve symptoms of some brain disorders. Perhaps if nicotine leads to clarity of thought it would be in the interest of the NWO to ban it.

Very interesting.

www.scienceagogo.com...

Originally posted by bluewagon
I doubt it has anything to do with the NWO.. its the people that want smoking gone
people are sick of smokers blowing it in their face

Major laws like this are changed for a reason and masked to the public using another reason.

Why not ban alcohol?

You think alcohol doesn't affect you but look around at how many deaths per year it causes on the road, peoples health, ruining families, etc.

The government (when push comes to shove) doesn't really care what you want. It's obviously more evident in some countries (U.S, UK) then others (Canada) but if you look deep enough you'll find they really don't.

I need to look into what chemicals are actually found in a cigarette and work from there.

Cigarette Smoking May Lower Rates of Neurodegenerative Diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's

While the health risks of tobacco are well known, several studies have shown that people with a history of cigarette smoking have lower rates of neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease. However, the explanations for nicotine's neuroprotective effects continue to be debated.

Now a team of neuroscientists at the University of South Florida College of Medicine presents new evidence of an anti-inflammatory mechanism in the brain by which nicotine may protect against nerve cell death. Their study was published today in the Journal of Neurochemistry.

In laboratory experiments, the researchers demonstrated that nicotine inhibits activation of brain immune cells known as microglia. Chronic microglial activation is a sign of brain inflammation that is a key step in nerve cell death. The researchers also identified the specific site, the alpha-7 acetylcholine receptor subtype, to which nicotine binds to block microglial activation.

Here is a list of Neurodegenerative Diseases:

List of neurodegenerative diseases

* Alexander disease
* Alper's disease
* Alzheimer's disease
* Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis
* Ataxia telangiectasia
* Batten disease (also known as Spielmeyer-Vogt-Sjogren-Batten disease)
* Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE)
* Canavan disease
* Cockayne syndrome
* Corticobasal degeneration
* Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
* Huntington disease
* HIV-associated dementia
* Kennedy's disease
* Krabbe disease
* Lewy body dementia
* Machado-Joseph disease (Spinocerebellar ataxia type 3)
* Multiple sclerosis
* Multiple System Atrophy
* Neuroborreliosis
* Parkinson disease
* Pelizaeus-Merzbacher Disease
* Pick's disease
* Primary lateral sclerosis
* Prion diseases
* Refsum's disease
* Sandhoff disease
* Schilder's disease
* Schizophrenia
* Spielmeyer-Vogt-Sjogren-Batten disease (also known as Batten disease)
* Spinocerebellar ataxia (multiple types with varying characteristics)
* Spinal muscular atrophy
* Steele-Richardson-Olszewski disease
* Tabes dorsalis

I know HIV is definitely one of them but I'm not sure of the others.

AHA here it is:

Now drugs derived from nicotine and the research on nicotine receptors are in clinical trials for everything from helping to heal wounds, to depression, schizophrenia, Alzheimer's, Tourette Syndrome, ADHD, anger management and anxiety.

"Nicotine is highly stigmatized -- and for good reason, because the delivery system is so deadly," says Don deBethizy, CEO of Targacept. "But the drug itself and the research generated by studying its effects on the brain both show great promise for helping us improve our physical and mental health."
www.wired.com...

Interesting coincidence when these diseases "depression, schizophrenia, anger management and anxiety" are exactly what they are trying to push on us.

reply to post by leafer


For myself as a smoker and a programmer, when I encounter a stubborn problem, I go have a smoke and the answer comes to me.

It appears, to me at least, to have the effect of making thought more efficient, clearer.

I'm going to go have one now.

I doubt a ban on smoking is part of the NWO...

The only reason I could think of, is to call smokers 'terrorists' and put them in concentration camps for spreading chemicals or something like that.

I'm sure the government wants us all to smoke and die short lives of cancer.

I could see, some how, nicotine being good in some way but, I doubt that's why they would ban them... Smoking is NOT good and I am a fool for doing it.

I think there might already be a topic similar to this one.

So there are 2 competing conspiracies- Tobacco companies conspiring to get people to smoke, and the government conspiring to get people to quit. Hmm. This presents quite the logical Mobias loop, to ponder.

reply to post by leafer



There are always two motives to everything the NWO does:

1) make money, and
2) control people

The smoking ban is a diversion so that when a compromised is reached, it will be raising the taxes on cigarettes. Second, the threat of smoking bans are just more psyops to get people to believe that the natural order of things is to allow the governments to regulate their lives.

Hey, here's a nutty idea. It's racially motivated.

It's an attempt to control and decrease the Asian population (the Asian market is huge) by loading them up with all kinds of heart and lung and reproductive diseases. The NWO would rather not lose power to the Asians, but it's hard to fight them when their population keeps expanding so much.

Also, large tobacco companies are making so much money in Asian markets at the moment that they almost don't even want to bother with Western markets, which tend to be less profitable because of lawsuits.

Originally posted by logicize
It's interesting that nicotine has been shown to be very beneficial to brain function and has been shown to relieve symptoms of some brain disorders. Perhaps if nicotine leads to clarity of thought it would be in the interest of the NWO to ban it.

That, I was unaware of. But still, I think there are people besides the NWO who want smoke regulations, smoking may do what you said, but when people start smoking around me I start to cough and sometimes I get sick because of it.
Someone posted why not alcohol? well.. smoking affects everyone around the smoker without any laws to keep the others safe. Alcohol only effects the drinker, sure their are drinking and driving and whatnot, but we have laws in place to keep people from doing that are they pay a price. What price do smokers make for coming up to me and lighting one up and making me sick? nothing.

With so many people addicted, if there was a nation-wide smoking ban it would make it easier to arrest people with a reason... as opposed to just rounding the masses up for no reason at all.

reply to post by bluewagon


This is the same logic used to ban virtually everything, and is also responsible for safety laws such as seat belts.

Remember when fireworks were legal everwhere. They were used on independence day to celebrate freedom and independence. I guess we really don't need those anymore.

Next comes food, twinkies and what not. After all, people who don't eat healthy will be a burden on the socialized health care system and cost everyone more in the form of taxes.

Don't let your kids into the sunshine, we all know that will kill them almost instantly.

Stand up for yourself, tell the smoker it's bothering you, don't whine on the government to handle it for you, you just give them more power over you. The power you give to the government will come back to haunt you some day.

Go to a bar, any bar. Watch the non smokers. In their own little groups, making it hard to talk to them. now watch the smokers, blissfully chatting away to random strangers.

I gave up smoking 6 weeks ago and I will add my 2 bobs worth, the first thing I noticed within a week was my usual sharpness and speech was effected and I would ball park it as being a considereable decrease in general awareness. I used to function what I considered to be above the average Joe Citizen although nothing special, just sharper than most...that was until 6 weeks ago.

I was hoping this to be a tempory side effect but am now coming to the realization its permanent. I wont take it back up again...But I have long wondered the exact same question to the title of this post and I thought the answer lay somewhere between health cost's and employee's losing 5 minutes per cigarette for a habit that cost's the employer.

What makes you even relate the NWO to smoking ban?

I sure as hell know why ID ban smoking..

Because its utterly USELESS
Because it kills you, 100% gauranteed
Because you PAY money for it
Because there's ABSOLUTLEY NO gain what so ever in smoking
Because it HARMS the people AROUND YOU!
Because you look rather pathetic
And beacuse it shows the stupidity of mankind.

If you still feel like smoking, then hey.. you proved me right! ;O)

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
What makes you even relate the NWO to smoking ban?

I sure as hell know why ID ban smoking..

Because its utterly USELESS
Because it kills you, 100% gauranteed
Because you PAY money for it
Because there's ABSOLUTLEY NO gain what so ever in smoking
Because it HARMS the people AROUND YOU!
Because you look rather pathetic
And beacuse it shows the stupidity of mankind.

If you still feel like smoking, then hey.. you proved me right! ;O)

Just to play devils advocate...
Who do you know that you can, with absolute conviction, say died from smoking?
I personally know of 2 people who I was told died from smoking, my Grandmother who was 96 when she passed and my Grandfather who was 94 when he passed.
So sad that their lives were cut so short when it could have been prevented if they had just quit smoking 75 years earlier.
My Grandmother was an eccentric old broad, lighting up right before death, she loved a good smoke, cherished it even, sharp as a whistle till the end at that tender age of 96.


We are forced fed statistics, fancy words and nasty images about smoking/smokers but try to find a smoker under the age of 75 died from a history of smoking with no other contributive factor.
In fact a whole heck of alot of the over 100 yr old club contributes their longevity to the smoke.

Oh and if the politicians are so concerned about our health...well you know where I am heading with that.

So your saying, that smoking cigs doesnt kill people?

reply to post by leafer


local communities, States, even federal govt. are outlawing pipe/cigar/cigarette smoking here in the U.S.,
the UN has policies, programs along those lines, many locals &
regions of the world are also leaning towards severe restrictions
on the act of 'smoking'
~That might euphamistically be called the 'NWO', but even that's
a stretch.... a structured entity called a 'NWO' does not exist,
so the thread is basically a non-starter~


but, there is a push to ban tobacco burning & inhaling by 'authorities',
instigated by a supposed public demand for curbs on 2nd hand smoke
pollution & health risks, etc.

My best guess is that 'Smoking Bans' have a deeper agenda...
Which is, to condition the masses to look toward legislatures to get more
involved with social engineering programs,
also there's pressure to make pharmaceuticals a dominant aspect of
modern living....

being 'hooked' on getting one's nicotine patch
(along with other tinctures of 'soma' drugs secretly included in the patch)
begets another layer of control, and a more antiseptic delivery device,
rather than todays' unclean habit of inhaling tobacco smoke -
which in turn contaminates the environment with used filters that have dangerous 'smoker's spittal' caught in the fibers of the cigarette butts.
(a Haz Mat situation)

A new, clean delivery system, through the use of sealed 'nicotine patches'
also allows a more precisely controlled inventory control process,
with the bottom line that govt. taxing agencies will reap in more tax
revenue collection thru the pharmaceutical industry than they currently collect through the antiquated tobacco industry that is currently fraught with thefts, smuggling, & many other way that divert a full 100% collection of tax revenues.

It's all about money !
is the short answer



[edit on 18-10-2007 by St Udio]