barcodes soon to be gone ..

as barcodes are around for times they are now going to be replaces by radio tags. using nano tech and polymers several companies are working on this.
now major tech companies are working to gether philips and IBM are going to work together on this tech for it could be used for safety. scan a bag and every item got a id tag so they could see whats in the bag.

www.reuters.com...;jsessionid=GZV5HLSAUVSLMCRBAEKSFFA?type=businessNews&storyID=4203589
www.philips.com...


[Edited on 26-1-2004 by MarkLuitzen]

I remember watching this on television. I'm not sure but wasn't there an issue with privacy?

if so they said it also wayback with the start of barcodes.

personally this prvacy thing is not good. its starting wif ready made food, people wif no time, relying on supermarkets. everyones gotta start learning to grow there own vegetables and get sum chickens and make ur own food cos theres gonna be a time when the whole world market is going to go down. trust me its just a matter of time. gotta learn to help urselves and not become another 0 or 1 in the goverments database.

Originally posted by quiksilver
personally this prvacy thing is not good. its starting wif ready made food, people wif no time, relying on supermarkets. everyones gotta start learning to grow there own vegetables and get sum chickens and make ur own food cos theres gonna be a time when the whole world market is going to go down. trust me its just a matter of time. gotta learn to help urselves and not become another 0 or 1 in the goverments database.

I doubt it will ever come to that extreme.. I can't believe you're suggesting everyone to grow their own food in the very near future

news.bbc.co.uk...

in other words, learn to look after yourself and not be so dependent on the system. power corrupts and i certainly think that the usa will become a police state.
total control. you dont know how to get your own food? go and buy some food from the supermarket loaded with sensory chips to spy on your doings. already there are thousands of cameras around the uk spying on people. recording your every move. its scary. having some organisation knowing everything about you, where u went at 8:00 last nite etc.

it can give you an alibie if needed in a law suite case.

RFID is a very serious privacy issue here is a link or twolink and link and if you need some more reading try these two www.abovetopsecret.com... and www.abovetopsecret.com... we ARE lossing privacy and freedom

There are serious privacy issues involved. But as I see it - just because someone CAN gather information about you, doesn't mean they WILL. If they have it, it doesn't mean they will USE it - unless they have a reason. Who cares where you were at 8:00 last night? I sure don't. If anyone wants to know where I was, I'll tell them. I have nothing to hide. If you have nothing to hide, you have not much to worry about.

If the concern is tyrannical despots - you need to worry about them no matter what technology is around.

I think the 'privacy' issue is terribly over-blown.

Can it be abused? Yep.
Will it be abused: Most likely more than a few times.
Is this reason enough to deprive all of humanity of the benefits it can provide? Nope.

Virtually ANY new technology has potential for abuse. Lawmakers will always be struggling to catch up, usually by *reacting* to the obvious abuses. Anticipating them may be difficult - the lawmakers should try to catch some of it up-front.

Ordering a pizza in the year 2012............

Operator: "Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your..."
Customer: "Hi, I'd like to order a pizza."
Operator: "May I have your NIDN first, sir?"
Customer: "My National ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it's 6102049998-45-54610."
Operator: "Thank you, Mr. Sheehan. I see you live at 1742 Meadowland Drive,
and the phone number's 494-2366. Your office number over at Lincoln Insurance is
745-2302 and your cell number's 266-2566. Which number are you calling from, sir?"
Customer: "Huh? I'm at home. Where d'ya get all this information?"
Operator: "We're wired into the system, sir."
Customer: (Sighs) "Oh, well, I'd like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas..."
Operator: "I don't think that's a good idea, sir."
Customer: "Whaddya mean?"
Operator: "Sir, your medical records indicate that you've got very high
blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care
provider won't allow such an unhealthy choice."
Customer: "**n. What do you recommend, then?"
Operator: "You might try our low-fat Soybean Yogurt Pizza. I'm sure you'll like it"
Customer: "What makes you think I'd like something like that?"
Operator: "Well, you checked out 'Gourmet Soybean Recipes' from your
local library last week, sir. That's why I made the suggestion."
Customer: "All right, all right. Give me two family-sized ones, then.
What's the damage?"
Operator: "That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four
kids, sir. The 'damage,' as you put it, heh, heh, comes $49.99."
Customer: "Lemme give you my credit card number."
Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay in cash.
Your credit card balance is over its limit."
Customer: "I'll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your
driver gets here."
Operator: "That won't work either, sir. Your checking account's overdrawn."
Customer: "Never mind. Just send the pizzas. I'll have the cash ready.
How long will it take?"
Operator: "We're running a little behind, sir. It'll be about 45 minutes,
sir. If you're in a hurry you might want to pick 'em up while you're out
getting the cash, but carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward."
Customer: "How the hell do you know I'm riding a bike?"
Operator: "It says here you're in arrears on your car payments, so your
car got repo'ed. But your Harley's paid up, so I just assumed that you'd be using it."
Customer: "@#%/$@&?#!"
Operator: "I'd advise watching your language, sir. You've already
got a July 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop."
Customer: (Speechless)
Operator: "Will there be anything else, sir?"
Customer: "No, nothing. Oh, yeah, don't forget the two free liters of Coke
your ad says I get with the pizzas."
Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but our ad's exclusionary clause prevents
us from offering free soda to diabetics."

Originally posted by quiksilver
Ordering a pizza in the year 2012............

Operator: "Thank you for calling Pizza Hut. May I have your..."
Customer: "Hi, I'd like to order a pizza."
Operator: "May I have your NIDN first, sir?"
Customer: "My National ID Number, yeah, hold on, eh, it's 6102049998-45-54610."
Operator: "Thank you, Mr. Sheehan. I see you live at 1742 Meadowland Drive,
and the phone number's 494-2366. Your office number over at Lincoln Insurance is
745-2302 and your cell number's 266-2566. Which number are you calling from, sir?"
Customer: "Huh? I'm at home. Where d'ya get all this information?"
Operator: "We're wired into the system, sir."
Customer: (Sighs) "Oh, well, I'd like to order a couple of your All-Meat Special pizzas..."
Operator: "I don't think that's a good idea, sir."
Customer: "Whaddya mean?"
Operator: "Sir, your medical records indicate that you've got very high
blood pressure and extremely high cholesterol. Your National Health Care
provider won't allow such an unhealthy choice."
Customer: "**n. What do you recommend, then?"
Operator: "You might try our low-fat Soybean Yogurt Pizza. I'm sure you'll like it"
Customer: "What makes you think I'd like something like that?"
Operator: "Well, you checked out 'Gourmet Soybean Recipes' from your
local library last week, sir. That's why I made the suggestion."
Customer: "All right, all right. Give me two family-sized ones, then.
What's the damage?"
Operator: "That should be plenty for you, your wife and your four
kids, sir. The 'damage,' as you put it, heh, heh, comes $49.99."
Customer: "Lemme give you my credit card number."
Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but I'm afraid you'll have to pay in cash.
Your credit card balance is over its limit."
Customer: "I'll run over to the ATM and get some cash before your
driver gets here."
Operator: "That won't work either, sir. Your checking account's overdrawn."
Customer: "Never mind. Just send the pizzas. I'll have the cash ready.
How long will it take?"
Operator: "We're running a little behind, sir. It'll be about 45 minutes,
sir. If you're in a hurry you might want to pick 'em up while you're out
getting the cash, but carrying pizzas on a motorcycle can be a little awkward."
Customer: "How the hell do you know I'm riding a bike?"
Operator: "It says here you're in arrears on your car payments, so your
car got repo'ed. But your Harley's paid up, so I just assumed that you'd be using it."
Customer: "@#%/$@&?#!"
Operator: "I'd advise watching your language, sir. You've already
got a July 2006 conviction for cussing out a cop."
Customer: (Speechless)
Operator: "Will there be anything else, sir?"
Customer: "No, nothing. Oh, yeah, don't forget the two free liters of Coke
your ad says I get with the pizzas."
Operator: "I'm sorry sir, but our ad's exclusionary clause prevents
us from offering free soda to diabetics."

LMAO Did you come up with that on your own, cause that is good sh�t.

In regards to the "nothing to hide" arguement. Do you or have you ever fileshared? Do you do full 2 second stops at stopsigns or before turning right on red? MP3s on your harddrive? Ever looked at porn? Personally, I agree with clearmind in saying that RFID is a bad idea. What will you say when the government wants all your biometric data on an RFID chip that you either wear as a necklace, carry on an ID card, or is implanted under your skin? Still have nothing to hide?

Personally, my potential future health problems aren't the person checking my IDs business, either is the number of people in my immediate family, or my tax income bracket, my salary, my phone number, etc. Can I prove I am who I say I am? Easily, I all ready have a Social Security card, Driver's License, Passport, voter registration card, and selective service card. Personally, I'd rather look after these 5 forms of ID and present whichever one is needed rather than having my entire life put onto a biometric RFID chip.

[Edited on 26-1-2004 by kaoszero]

lol @ quicksilver, that was a pretty funny one. I seem to remember an article a while back where RIFD tags were placed in packages of razors, and when a customer picked one up, a camera was triggered to take their picture for some kind of statistical research. Quite frankly, if they want to gather information on what kind of razors i shave with, they can attach a survey to the box, theres no need to have a farking camera trained on the display. The saying "give em an inch, they take a mile" really does apply here, because the more we allow the worse it will get.

As for people learning to be independent of the system, its actually a great idea. Really everyone should have some basic knowledge of how to survive without things such as grocery stores, electricity, etc. While it might seem pointless, think about times like right now when areas are pounded by snow storms, and the power goes out, or the natural gas that heats the home goes out. Having canned food from a garden is a blessing when you have 3 feet of snow on the ground and cant get out for a week or more to buy food from the grocery store.