The Conspiracy Against the White Race?

With all of the talk about conspiracies against Jews and Blacks, I couldn't help but think about "conspiracies" against other ethnic groups that are comparable.

Naturally, since I am a white guy, the white race came to mind first.

You can take any number of issues in this world and show some way the white race is discriminated against and "held down".

Take affirmative action for example. Is it even POSSIBLE to count the number of jobs that have been given to a less qualified "minority" over a white person just because they fit the correct skin color or ethnicity?

Or, how about this?

Why is it perfectly acceptable for a black person to where a "black pride" shirt when a guy wearing a "white pride" shirt would be called a bigot 9 times out of 10?

Why are the Black Panthers considered a "civil rights" group while the Ku Klux Klan is a "hate" group? Hell, the BPP has even been allowed to openly recruit members on college campuses throughout the country. If the KKK attempted this (or any "white" group) it would be called a "hate militia" or something along those lines.

What would the world say if there was a "Miss White America" pageant?

What about the "conspiracy" to demonize the white race for the sins of our ancestors? Whatever happened to the philosophy of two wrongs don't make a right?

The white man, over the last few years, has become the world's *censored*. We are constantly told how we are responsible for the oppression of the black race, the jews and women. Hell, some even go so far as to blame the white man for the degradation of black neighborhoods because we, the devils, make certain that there is a liquor store and gun store on every corner. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see any gun and liquor store lasting if the members of the community aren't supporting it. Are there invisible white guys who force the members of the black community into these gun and liquor stores to waste their checks on liquor and guns?

Probably, and I'm quite certain it's that same group of elite and invisible white people who are forcing black people to kill and maim each other in mass.




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In reality, there is no WORLD WIDE conspiracy against the white race. There is also no world wide conspiracy against the blacks, jews, asians, british, irish, scottish, AMISH or anyone else.

Sure, there are select people from EVERY race and ethnicity that harbor a SEVERE grudge against members of a different race or ethnicity and go out of there way to keep them down (or even eliminate them altogether). But, this DOES NOT equal a worldwide conspiracy.

The problem lies in the fact that these idiots that ARE responsible for this garbage (think Jesse Jackson, David Duke, ANY Israeli Prime Minister, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad etc etc.) are thrust onto the public by the national media because they generate ratings. These select few wastes of life are allowed to speak for US because they make "good tv." In speaking for us, the more simple minded of each race/ethnicity take what is said as gospel and the poison sneaks it's way into their brain (somewhere between the drug damage and poor education they received), never to leave again.




I don't know about any of you, but I don't seem to get my "white" check daily. I have never gotten a job simply because I was white. My bills still have to be paid and my stuff gets repossessed if they aren't. I received no "whites" scholarship to pay for my schooling. When I apply for my loan, and my credit score isn't a 700 or above, I don't get the loan. If I try to rent an apartment, they don't hand me the special "white" application on which my requirements for acceptance are lower. If I go to the liquor store, they don't try to talk me out of ruining my life or offer me counseling before they will sell me the booze. If I walk through the ghetto, the black crack dealers don't avoid trying to sell me simply because I'm white. The gun dealers are as eager to sell me a gun under the table as they are anyone else, provided I have the money.


My point?

World wide race based conspiracy theories get a bit out of hand.

There are bigotous *censored* everywhere in the world. That doesn't mean they speak or act on MY behalf.


As I have said before, racism (in literal form) is a NATURAL thing.

It's the hate and genocide that are bad. In most cases, these are caused by people like Jesse Jackson, David Duke and others who try to "fan the fire" in order to benefit themselves financially. I say we take them out of the spotlight and MOVE ON.



Jasn

Truth is, there is not racial tension in America that isn't media created. The media and those whose jobs are dependent on tension, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are perfect examples, are the culprits of any "racial tension" that currently exists in America today.



[edit on 16-10-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


You know what I like about you SoT?


I spend so much time writing my threads (because of the ridiculous net connection here) in the hopes that I may actually be able to post it.

Then you jump in right behind me and summarize my whole post with a couple of sentences and nail EXACTLY what I was trying to say.

Or, in summation.


Agreed.






Thanks for your input buddy.
Jasn

You're welcome Simius.. Hey, I just try to simplify things. I have a knack of being able to read "between the lines."

reply to post by SpeakerofTruth


That explains it.

I have a knack of writing "between the lines" in the hopes that people read my posts well enough to catch my point.

You’re really on to something.

I have the misfortune of being born and raised in the Canadian province of Quebec.

I’m antagonized for being English because this is a French province with some serious baggage and not enough brains to stow it.

I’m antagonized for being white and male because this is such a mamby pamby liberal society that I’m expected to let women and minorities steamroll me in their fast track to success without work.

I would not say "conspiracy" against whites, but there is a general accepted notion of "white" being bad, white being the power broker, white responsible for world poverty, white being associated with slavery, white pride bad, black pride good etc etc.

Those notions are dominant views in academia, quangos, charities, media etc- whether a conspiracy or not, it is true.

It is part of the politics of cultural marxism / political correctness- segment people into different victim groups for various "power" reasons.

This is a dehumanising process and tends to keep the very groups they espouse to free, underperforming, by treating them like kids (or lesser adults)


Those black "leaders" you have referenced above are perfect examples- low life charlatans afforded statesman like coverage

reply to post by blueorder


True enough.

In the interest of fairness, there are charlatans of the same make and model amongst every color and creed.


That's the problem. The media LOVES them and they manage to convince simple minded people to buy into their crap.

Jasn

I wouldnt think its a conspiracy. Its just a case of human rights gone topsy turvy. I know here in Australia, its usaully goody two-shoes white people encouraging the other ethnic groups to cry "racism" any time someone white talks about being proud of their heritage.

I just try to ignore most of it these days

reply to post by OzWeatherman


The same holds true in the good ol' U S of A. Those same goody goody white folks wouldn't DARE have a black person over for dinner unless that black person was the cook or the maid.

It's much the same reason why people from up north scream about how racist those of us in the south are.


They know nothing about us and it makes them feel better about themselves since their ancestors ran off the black folks from their cozy little cities ages ago.


Jasn

excuse me... but i must cite an article from somethingawful.com (it's kind of sad that i don't need to go any higher for a good refutation of part of your argument)

on affirmative action:

Argue the fairness of affirmative action all you want, nothing fails to inspire sympathy quite like hearing a story about a mediocre white student losing his place at his university of choice to a slightly more mediocre black student. Forget the scientifically proven difficulties for black people when applying for jobs, loans, or hailing a taxi; Jerome got into the University of Nebraska and my boy is going to technical school!

Source

ok, black pride versus white pride
...black pride has been something suppressed in america for the majority of it's existence, white pride was far from suppressed and has racist roots instead of roots in reclaiming lost culture

the black panthers? they don't actively kill random white people for being white, their acts of violence are responsive (though disproportionate)
oh, and FYI, the southern poverty law center labels them as a hate group

What would the world say if there was a "Miss White America" pageant?

people pay attention to beauty pageants?

now shut up and go enjoy the disproportionate amount of privilege that you experience as a white person living in the USA.

[edit on 10/18/07 by madnessinmysoul]

SimiusDei
In reality, there is no WORLD WIDE conspiracy against the white race. There is also no world wide conspiracy against the blacks, jews, asians, british, irish, scottish, AMISH or anyone else.

Sure, there are select people from EVERY race and ethnicity that harbor a SEVERE grudge against members of a different race or ethnicity and go out of there way to keep them down (or even eliminate them altogether). But, this DOES NOT equal a worldwide conspiracy

i think alot of people are missing the OP's main point. Had you read more than one paragraph you would see that he ends up saying there IS no conspiracy, against anyone. It's the media who are creating the tensions.
Great post by the way

I thought this thread would be about white conspiracies.

* White man created HIV to kill black people.

* Reaganomics.

* White man destroyed Africa...

White Man has not ruined it for Africa. Look at what happened to Japan. Its been nuked and no building was left standing. They could build up from scratch and today Japan is the second richest nation on Earth. The live the longest et c.

Its the people of Africa that has ruined Africa. Just look at Sudan the black people kill a little darker black people cause they are black. They kill each other cause they belong to different tribes. And their "freedom fighters" are even worse than their "oppressors".

[edit on 18-10-2007 by Eclipse_Solar]

reply to post by Eclipse_Solar


So true.

Most races have no one to blame but members of their own race.

This holds especially true for the black race. As Ed Norton said in The 25th Hour "MOVE THE *CENSORED* ON!"

reply to post by Eclipse_Solar


yeah... let's oversimplify the situation in africa and completely forget the times of imperialism where africa was basically seen as a massive pie of resources for europeans to divide up for themselves...
let's forget how badly they were treated and how their resources were exported with no profit going towards bettering the lives of those who had rightful claim
and let's forget how the british mowed down people using spears with their machine guns...

oh...and only 2 towns in japan were nuked....
after the war, the USA actively helped rebuild japan..because they didn't want to see a situation similar to post ww1 germany happen again.
apples and oranges on that comparison

Originally posted by SimiusDei
This holds especially true for the black race. As Ed Norton said in The 25th Hour "MOVE THE *CENSORED* ON!"

yes, because the forced classifications by europeans were completely their fault...
or the fact that it became incredibly popular to take over their land without being asked for that whole imperialist era
or the insane amount of resources they had stolen from them...

yeah, it's totally africa's fault that it was raped by europe..

this thread is just starting to sound like the racist filth i heard from the skinheads back in missouri
...especially when you see an avatar saying "the south shall rise again" bearing the flag that represented slavery...

[edit on 10/19/07 by madnessinmysoul]

reply to post by madnessinmysoul


Education, it's a good thing I promise.

Look into it.



The Confederate flag represents slavery? Since when?


No, of course the black race wasn't responsible for the crimes whites (and others) committed against them.


However, perhaps you can explain (intelligently and FACTUALLY) who is responsible for the problems blacks face now (since NOW was what I meant in terms to them being responsible for their own problems).

I guess it was the suffering of slaves from long ago that is responsible for insane amounts of black on black crime. I guess that's also the reason many (MANY) black neighborhoods are nothing more than dangerous and drug infested slums. Of course, you have to throw in the extremely high instances of fatherless black homes; We all know that the european incursion upon africa is to blame for this horrible trend. And naturally, we all know there is a huge conspiracy to put liquor and gun stores on every corner of every black neighborhood, after all, they are distressed because of things that happened two hundred years ago and this renders them incapable of avoiding a liquor store or gun store when they happen upon one.

Also, you'd certainly have to be a fool to BELIEVE that they majority of violence and other problems in Africa is carried out by OTHER BLACK PEOPLE.




This thread is in now way a "racist" thread. If you want to see racist threads go check out "Conspiracy Against the Black Race?".

Since you didn't read the thread (obviously), you might want to go back and see where I also said that EVERY race is to blame for their own problems. Not o mention my total denial of a world wide conspiracy against ANY race (yes, including whites).


The reason I said ESPECIALLY the black race is, they would probably be MUCH better off if they would quit looking for someone to blame for their problems. A great number of black people CHOOSE to live a stereotype and that's the MAIN problem the black race faces. Ignorance.


Jasn

The white European powers (and I include the U.S. in this) strutted around the world for the better part of 2 centuries making "colonies" out of already long occupied places and proclaiming it the "white man's burden"... of proclaiming other races inferior and need of our guidance and so forth.

Every place on earth that we meddled... it is a mess... mostly because of it in one way or another.

I am white and male and I have never felt discriminated against because of it by anyone. I think the whole notion of a white male complaining about discrimination a pathetic joke or a seriously bad case of sour grapes.

The reason I said ESPECIALLY the black race is, they would probably be MUCH better off if they would quit looking for someone to blame for their problems. A great number of black people CHOOSE to live a stereotype and that's the MAIN problem the black race faces. Ignorance.

Wrong... you have never been the victim of instituitionalized racism. Nor have I but I was married into a black family and I saw what my step-kids went through. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

Originally posted by grover


I am white and male and I have never felt discriminated against because of it by anyone. I think the whole notion of a white male complaining about discrimination a pathetic joke or a seriously bad case of sour grapes.

You must have never gone through a divorce.

The white male is treated like the anti-christ in the family courts where I live. I sat in motions court and watched a female drug addict be given full custody of her kids even though she admitted to leaving them alone at night while she went on drinking binges.

Another women was found by the court appointed psychologist to have physically and emotionally abused her three kids, found to be a drug addict and ordered into treatment, and was still given 50/50 custody of her kids.

And these are just two of the cases I happened to watch while sitting in motions court waiting for my case to be heard.

Meanwhile, I personally know 4 white men who had their kids taken from them, and who were forced to file bankruptcy because of the onerous and misguided alimony and child support payments that were forced on them.

And this should not surprise you.

The family courts here are filled with left-leaning judges who need the support of the blacks and women to get elected. One female candidate right now is so brazen that she is running ads asking people to vote for her BECAUSE she is a women.

So no, this is not sour grapes. This is real. It happens everyday.