Chavez fighting the NWO

Originally posted by Unplugged

Originally posted by sollie
is he really fighting the nwo? isn't he just playing the same game?

[deleted a whole heap of nonsense.]

[edit on 15-10-2007 by sollie]

I see what you mean. The difference between this new south American bank and the other international ones is that the latter have a rich history of being tools for economic imperialism (US, Brit, etc.).
Even if this new bank and trade agreements were as oppressive to the region as the international banks and treaties, the people would have none of it and mobilize to vote the scumbag presidents out of office responsible for allowing this type of thing to happen again (like they have done in the past). Time will tell I guess...Im sure the US is going to be trying its best to stick its nose in or at least try to disrupt things.

Hopefully, the difference will be that the S American economies will benefit from this bank for a change - instead of the US economy.

J.

[edit on 15-10-2007 by jimbo999]

Originally posted by benign.psychosis
Seriously, I thought the motto of this site was "Deny Ignorance," but there is a mod here saying the information is bunk?

www.bloomberg.com...

www.venezuelanalysis.com...

www.narconews.com...

news.independent.co.uk...

www.economist.com...

It looks like Mirthful me just saw the name "Sorcha Faal," made up his mind, and closed the window! This MUST have been the case, because were he to read a few paragraphs into the article, he would have seen the mentioning of the International Herald Tribune!

www.iht.com...

Deny Ignorance, Indeed!

ROFL! I guess they get all their information from David Booth...

Errr... I mean Sorcha Faal...

Hint: Even you if you get a story from a questionable source, it DOES NOT mean it has to end there.

Heheh...Great news then - it's true! The Bank Of The SOuth is real.

Always question your sources, always source your questions...I guess...

Jimbo

c'mon, he's just positioning himself to be brought into the NWO

I bet the NWO is just letting him organize those countries so when the time comes, they only have to take out a few people to take over

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
c'mon, he's just positioning himself to be brought into the NWO

that's what i'm thinking. but i don't know if he's doing it on purpose though.

him and his allies are making SA a competitive player in the world economy....i suspect that is exactly what the NWO is all about.

what will become priority #1 in south america in the next ten years? productivity to stay competitive. that means 40 hour weeks for the whole population - 'in the national interest'...i dunno, i'm thinking fighting fire with fire still ends up with fire.

sure it will raise the living standards of the working population, that's the selling point. that is certainly a good thing and shouldn't be scoffed at. but i fear that the good side of it will be manipulated to sell people into the mark of the beast situation, just as we can see beginning in the wealthy countries at the moment.

two sides to every coin i guess.

Originally posted by benign.psychosis
The source that made a reference to the IHT is the one that you posted, not I.

I for one, consider "INFOPLEASE.COM" a questionable source for information.

You aren't one that's much for reading evidently... It is your source, in your original post that mentions IHT, not my link which is here:

eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com...

Has no link to IHT, or to any other external source.

As for the infoplease.com link, if you had bothered to look at the chart, you would have seen the link to the DoE page that has the chart in it's entirety... Here it is:

www.eia.doe.gov...

Please note, that the DoE does not give Venezuela an estimate anywhere near 1.3 trillion barrels.

Infoplease.com merely provides a simplified breakdown of detailed statistics... I see their simplification in this particular case failed to facilitate your edification.

Perhaps I can point you to other sources:
*SNIP

www.runet.edu...

Or.. Perhaps a link to the BBC from 2006?

*SNIP

news.bbc.co.uk...

Or from the Guardian?

*SNIP

www.guardian.co.uk...

I think that this Sorcha Fall character may be doing a little more research than you. Perhaps you should not be so quick to dismiss him?

That being said, I don't think he/she relies on INFOPLEASE.COM for his information.

It's Sorcha Faal... And as demonstrated by your utter lack of due diligence and attention to detail, the dissemenation of accurate information, and the assessment of the same appears to be beyond the scope of this thread. Your quotes of "1.2-3 trillion barrels" in these sources claim to be from the DoE yet the only person to provide a DoE estimate is myself. I would also point out that the one chart from runet.edu is for "unconventional oil reserves" which is the moral equivalent of calling loose change under the sofa pillows a "retirement fund."

Thanks for playing.

You aren't one that's much for reading evidently... It is your source, in your original post that mentions IHT, not my link which is here:

eastsouthwestandnorth.blogspot.com...

Has no link to IHT, or to any other external source.

Please remove your foot from your mouth Your link, third paragraph:

"Of this new South America Bank we can read as reported by the International Herald Tribune News Service"

And just what are you trying to pull here? Previously you said:

The original Sorcha Faal article that you copy and pasted... Errr... Quoted, made no reference to the IHT or any other source.

But you just said:

You aren't one that's much for reading evidently... It is your source, in your original post that mentions IHT, not my link

So, which one is it? Is it not in the original link, or is it? I can't really tell because you are saying it's in both, it's very confusing. I don't know what you mean when you first say, "The original Sorcha Faal article that you copy and pasted ... made no reference to the IHT or any other source." and then you turn around and say, "It is your source, in your original post that mentions IHT."

*scratches head*

As you said, I must be reading it wrong, eveidently.

As for the infoplease.com link, if you had bothered to look at the chart, you would have seen the link to the DoE page that has the chart in it's entirety... Here it is:

www.eia.doe.gov...

Please note, that the DoE does not give Venezuela an estimate anywhere near 1.3 trillion barrels.

Because if you read the bottom of that chart, it explains that that is only a list for crude oil - not tar oil. Naturally, it is going to omit the 1.3 trillion barrels of tar oil talked about in the articles.

Infoplease.com merely provides a simplified breakdown of detailed statistics... I see their simplification in this particular case failed to facilitate your edification.

Yes, a simplifaction of facts that have nothing to do with reality.

It's Sorcha Faal... And as demonstrated by your utter lack of due diligence and attention to detail, the dissemenation of accurate information, and the assessment of the same appears to be beyond the scope of this thread.

Ah, utter lack of detail, such as not noticing that the link you posted had nothing to do with tar oil? Or maybe it was that part where you flip-floped over who's link contained the reference to IHT?

Sorry, I do not know who Sorcha Faal is - so I'm not operating from a biased position - but as from this article, he seems to be pretty accurate, at least more accurate that someone I know.

I would also point out that the one chart from runet.edu is for "unconventional oil reserves" which is the moral equivalent of calling loose change under the sofa pillows a "retirement fund."

Come now, we both know that once the heavy oil is extracted it will be converted into synthetic oil by oil upgraders, or duly refined into petroleum. All 1.3 Trillion barrels of it.


Thanks for playing. You might want to check your shoe laces - I think they are tied together! *nudge nudge*

[edit on 17-10-2007 by benign.psychosis]

[edit on 17-10-2007 by benign.psychosis]

We have to be careful when talking about Chaves and opossing the NWO, it may also be a tactic to unite South America with the excuse of selfprotection from the NWO.

Yes, I agree. They are letting him do all the work for them and when that is completed and Venezuela becomes a world power, which it will if left untethered, they will just go and take over like they have planned to do all over the world. He is just making it easy for them because he will have all the people under control by that time and like another poster said right in here, they will only have to take out a few. Sounds like a great plan to me if you are the PTB's...Just my thoughts...sabre11004...

a reply to: benign.psychosis

And now, 9 years later, we can see what happens to a country that defies the New Order.

Venezuela is truly being punished. Billionaire business owners and certain US "business interests" are waging an economic war against it. It's citizens are frightened and starving, with signs in the streets stating they are not allowed to bear arms to protect themselves from the marauding gangs who are kidnapping and killing...

God help Venezuela, because nobody else will.