aliens are NOT real

Originally posted by GeeGee

Originally posted by wildcat
I find that statment extremely insulting. I believe in the NWO, therefor I do not trust the media.

The ET's are part of the NWO. Do some research. If you don't trust anything in the media, then you should know that they make a mockery of the UFO/ET phenomena. Since they're mocking it, wouldn't it be safe to assume that they don't want anyone to take it seriously?

I know there is a conspiracy theory that "reptilians" have secretly infiltrated our government and are plotting to enslave humanity.

UFOs/aliens are not ridiculed by the media. The media usually brings in a scientist and a UFO believer to debate/discuss their opinions.

That is how news reporting is done these days. The media makes a point, and then brings in a counter argument. But this method is not always used though. The media sometimes (almost always) only brings in one guest that will agree with them, and then the public will automatically concur. Repetition is also used (which is always lies) because that is the best way in order to get the "masses" to agree also.

Originally posted by wildcat
I am sick and tired of members calling me ignorant and unintelligant because they think I do not believe in aliens at all. But if they would of taken the proper time to read the entire thread like a smart person would, then they would see that I said multiple times, that I believe there is a possibility of life out there.

i find that very ironic that you are telling us what a smart person would do

Originally posted by wildcat
I know there is a conspiracy theory that "reptilians" have secretly infiltrated our government and are plotting to enslave humanity.

UFOs/aliens are not ridiculed by the media. The media usually brings in a scientist and a UFO believer to debate/discuss their opinions.

Yeah, so apparently they put forth all this effort to create a UFO/ET deception which no one buys into, but the NWO information is available to everyone online. Right.

The media ridicules UFO's all the time, what are you talking about? The general public does not care if some ufologist goes on TV and talks about UFO's. The only time the general public would listen is if the government came out and told everyone ET's have landed. Poor David Sereda was on Fox News discussing UFO's, and the reporters mocked him to death.

Your argument hasn't made any real sense, how do you know the NWO isn't a hideous lie?

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What wildcat suggests is indeed how it works usually - in a crisis whomever comes up with a plan of action first is usually the one whom the masses rally behind, while the rest of us are labelled as 'indecisive' for our reluctance to act.

Those who can keep a calm head in a crisis are usually ignored, or even treated with suspicion in the face of a possible destruction.

This is what i like about the 'global warming' crisis - no one is really specific about when decisions have to be made, so no one's panicking.

It'll be interesting when mother nature decides to creep up on us from behind - and once we notice she's there it'll be too late; she's in mid-bite.

Originally posted by GeeGee

how do you know the NWO isn't a hideous lie?

Because Ron Paul is ridiculed by all media corporations. Because there is vast amounts of evidence that Bill O Reilly and Fox news are all lies. Because it is statistically impossible for jet fuel to melt the steel that the government claims brought down the world trade center. Because habeus corpos has been suspended. Habeus corpus is the only personal rights in the constitution, and the constitution says it cannot be suspended. Because this great sole superpower has been unable to capture bin laden. Because the CIA, NSA, FBI abuse the constitution every day.

You told me to do the research on aliens, I already have and concluded that it's lies. Since you asked me to do that, I ask you to research the NWO yourself. Also there is far greater evidence for ghosts and demons than aliens. If ghosts and demonds are real, then that must mean there is a god and maybe a devil. So maybe this UFO/Alien phenomenon is all a lie by the devil.

Please not that I do not believe that.

Originally posted by wildcat
If ghosts and demons are real, then that must mean there is a god and maybe a devil. So maybe this UFO/Alien phenomenon is all a lie by the devil.

Now I see why you can't believe in aliens, the religious aspect. I see. Well, there's no amount of evidence that I can show you that will convince you otherwise. And actually, there's not even close to enough evidence of ghosts/demons than there is for UFO's. You may believe whatever you wish, my friend. Good day.

Originally posted by GeeGee



Because Ron Paul is ridiculed by all media corporations. Because there is vast amounts of evidence that Bill O Reilly and Fox news are all lies. Because it is statistically impossible for jet fuel to melt the steel that the government claims brought down the world trade center.

how many times do i have to repost this it was not the melting of the steel it was the faulty building of the wtc. and the heat just weakened them!

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[edit on 14-10-2007 by xbrendanx]

Have you even done the research that explains your stament is false? Or do you just listen to what the government says?

You know, many recent posts by alien believers on this thread have led me to the conclusion that they are extremely gulible and ignorant. They remind me of sony fanboys lol .

Originally posted by wildcat
Have you even done the research that explains your stament is false? Or do you just listen to what the government says?

You know, many recent posts by alien believers on this thread have led me to the conclusion that they are extremely gulible and ignorant. They remind me of sony fanboys lol

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ok can you please tell me what you are talking about like by quoting the person you were talking to

Originally posted by wildcat
Have you even done the research that explains your stament is false? Or do you just listen to what the government says?

You know, many recent posts by alien believers on this thread have led me to the conclusion that they are extremely gulible and ignorant. They remind me of sony fanboys lol

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Are you talking about me or brendan?

I'd appreciate it if you didn't insult me because I did nothing to deserve it. Thank you.

Originally posted by wildcat
They remind me of sony fanboys lol

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If this statement was aimed at me due to my comment on global warming, then my explanation follows as thus;

I prefer to treat a possible threat as a certainty.

Originally posted by GeeGee

Originally posted by wildcat
If ghosts and demons are real, then that must mean there is a god and maybe a devil. So maybe this UFO/Alien phenomenon is all a lie by the devil.

Now I see why you can't believe in aliens, the religious aspect. I see. Well, there's no amount of evidence that I can show you that will convince you otherwise. And actually, there's not even close to enough evidence of ghosts/demons than there is for UFO's. You may believe whatever you wish, my friend. Good day.

You just pushed it too far

Eucharist miracle

video.google.com...

Ghost pictures (scroll down)

www.ohioghosthunter.com...

Poltergiest

video.google.com...


Now since I showed you video evidence, please show me actual videos of aliens. Surely if they are real, then someone must of had to video tape them. The alien interogation is a hoax, the alien is unrealistic, you cannot see the whole body, and it makes puppet like movements. The alien autopsy is a hoax too, the camera angles are unrealistic and it's in black and white, that's a dramatizing effect.

[edit on 14-10-2007 by wildcat]

Originally posted by Throbber

Originally posted by wildcat
They remind me of sony fanboys lol

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If this statement was aimed at me due to my comment on global warming, then my explanation follows as thus;

I prefer to treat a possible threat as a certainty.

Oh no, I'm refering to the people who call me ignorant because they think I don't believe in aliens period. I have said this many times in this thread, I believe in the possiblity of life out there.

Originally posted by wildcat
You just pushed it too far

Eucharist miracle

video.google.com...

Ghost pictures (scroll down)

www.ohioghosthunter.com...

Poltergiest

video.google.com...


Now since I showed you video evidence, please show me actual videos of aliens. Surely if they are real, then someone must of had to video tape them. The alien interogation is a hoax, the alien is unrealistic and you cannot see the whole body and it makes puppet like movements. The alien autopsy is a hoax too, the camera angles are unrealistic and it's in black and white, that's a dramatizing effect.

I said UFO's not aliens. Proof of aliens is hard to come by because the government goes after anyone with that kind of proof, just ask Alex Collier.

Some possible real ET photos can be found here

www.ufocasebook.com...

I'm just gonna take a wild guess and predict that you say those are all fake.

By the way, those ghost photos could be anything just as the alien photos could be anything. The poltergeist video looks fake in my opinion.

Here is some good evidence of ET's

youtube.com...

Dr. Lear analyzes the Roswell debris and finds that they are of extraterrestrial origin.

[edit on 14-10-2007 by GeeGee]

The simple truth is you should not believe anything until you've seen it with your own eyes. You should not dis-believe it either.

I don't know if UFO's are real, I've never seen one. I can't say they don't exist either simply because I've never seen one.

I can only offer this.

Many people say that Bigfoot isn't real. There are no bones or facts that prove it is real so therefore it cannot be.

I've seen one with my own eyes and know for a fact that Bigfoot does exist.

Those who say they saw a UFO have my support, cause I know there are strange things afoot. My eyes did not lie to me.

Just because you do not believe in something, does not mean it is not real.

docid=]Originally posted by wildcat

Originally posted by GeeGee

Originally posted by wildcat
If ghosts and demons are real, then that must mean there is a god and maybe a devil. So maybe this UFO/Alien phenomenon is all a lie by the devil.

Now I see why you can't believe in aliens, the religious aspect. I see. Well, there's no amount of evidence that I can show you that will convince you otherwise. And actually, there's not even close to enough evidence of ghosts/demons than there is for UFO's. You may believe whatever you wish, my friend. Good day.

You just pushed it too far

Eucharist miracle

video.google.com...

Ghost pictures (scroll down)

www.ohioghosthunter.com...

Poltergiest

video.google.com...


Now since I showed you video evidence, please show me actual videos of aliens. Surely if they are real, then someone must of had to video tape them. The alien interogation is a hoax, the alien is unrealistic and you cannot see the whole body and it makes puppet like movements. The alien autopsy is a hoax too, the camera angles are unrealistic and it's in black and white, that's a dramatizing effect.

proof


lake county incident
i watched the whole thing and it was scarry

and the reason the autopsy was in black and white probably was not as a dramatizing effect it is due to the fact that the video was before they had color camras and it was like 50 years ago

[edit on 14-10-2007 by xbrendanx]

I believe in aliens and I doubt that we would make up aliens since so many people still don't believe in aliens.

I urge everyone to read The Facade by Michael Heiser PhD(or soon to be) in Semitic languages.

It's fiction based on real declassified documents. I recommend The Threat also.

Basically, the "Grays" are nothing more than organic robots built with nanotechnology (which is 30 years in advance in black ops). They can create a person out of atoms using their dna (nanotech replicators!) and download them to a specified location.

Where it gets interesting is that those in charge of the black ops are actually the "aliens", the serpent race, or the Watchers in the book of Enoch. David Icke calls them the reptilians. They can shape shift and pop in and out of physical reality. They're the real force behind the NWO (so called as the social arm of SDI; strategic defense initiative, a plot that involves HAARP and is about repelling positive forces from interfering with their plans). The serpent race isn't really alien, but has been living underground for thousands of years. This is the legend of demons living in fire underneath us. The NWO is actually their revenge for being forced underground (when they're not busy abusing people in the astral planes). So wildcat you are right in a sense. All of this has been described in the various books by Branton (Dulce, Mojave etc), which are unfortunately viewed as disinfo. The truth is too awful to accept sometimes. It all makes sense when you study religious texts carefully.

Originally posted by xbrendanx

Originally posted by GeeGee



Because Ron Paul is ridiculed by all media corporations. Because there is vast amounts of evidence that Bill O Reilly and Fox news are all lies. Because it is statistically impossible for jet fuel to melt the steel that the government claims brought down the world trade center.

how many times do i have to repost this it was not the melting of the steel it was the faulty building of the wtc. and the heat just weakened them!

edit:spelling



[edit on 14-10-2007 by xbrendanx]

Have you seen the massive structural mainframe and the cross beams and the steel reinforced concrete that crossed each floor of both the WTC's? Did you see all of the Jet Fuel explode OUTSIDE of the WTC's in the form of massive fireballs? Once that fuel is on fire it is gone, it can't come back it can only leave nearby objects burning; objects that can only burn at a maximum of 600 degrees Fahrenheit.

We are talking about a metal structure that extends hundreds of feet in all directions and increases in diameter up to 4-feet thick at the base, a structure that is "boxed". In saying "heat expansion" weakened and brought these buildings down (at free fall speeds mind you), one would also have to say it is a miracle that the jet engines did not themselves melt while also transferring their heat onto the thin aluminum wings of the plane, thus forcing failure onto those weakened wings as well causing them to pull apart from the airplane. Gee, it is even a miracle these jet planes are able to pull G's on the runaway and raise up to 30,000 feet airborne at 400-MPH! Watch out, a jet engine may just fall from the sky before you know it.

* Oh BTW, the weaken steel theory holds no water, even if this high grade steel was weakened (reaching a diameter of 4-feet in box columns), the most that would have happened to the WTC's is that the those affected floors, those with the damage of impact would have swayed, twisted, contorted, and began to collapse and would have tilted over and torn off falling over the side of the building and falling to the ground, the weakened steel would have not affected the underlying structures and they would have remained strong, even with a collapse of floors, and even with the weight of the plane, (BTW, which weighted 30-tons less then what the building was originally designed to support). Also a collapsing building does not create pryoclastic flow, only explosives and volcanoes are capable of doing that... and I am not aware of any volcanoes being around or in the vicinity of NYC.

[edit on 14-10-2007 by RexxCrow]