John Lear on Gravity and Alien Technology

Gravity and Alien Technology

There are two forms of gravity. Gravity A works on an atomic scale. Gravity B is the type that holds us on the Earth and holds the Earth in orbit around the Sun.
Gravity is instantaneous. We use a gravity phone to talk to the grey aliens who live 1,000 light years away.

Highly Speculative

I agree with John that the key to future transportation is learning how gravity works. But it is not the only technology that needs discovering.

According to John this work has already been done and we have made some progress which enables us to go to the Moon, Mars and possibly within the solar system.

But the technology to travel to near and distant stars still eludes us.

This I feel could be quite true but I doubt there is a massive alternative shadow space program. The reason is that I believe this new technology that manipulates gravity and other forces does not require huge rockets or infrastructure.

If at all we have this technology, it will be more like dematerializing men and material from a small bunker to an underground base on the moon or mars.

And such a program would not require thousands of space cadets but only a few hundred. It may be true that those who go there do not come back. It is a one way ticket so that they do not come back and disclose it to everybody on CNN.

But this is a theory. If we have this technology, we would also possibly have mind control technology that can be used to black out memories on their return.

Alien Abductions could be possibly sending people to work on these bases without their permission and when they come back they are fed with weird memories to hide the original ones. It is like the slave trade is back in vogue.

Once again this is speculation. If John can speculate so can I and so can others and there could be no end to weird theories.

But till there is that vital proof these will remain theories and not fact.

Yet, without fire there cannot be smoke and the fact that so many people are smoking out these theories, there should be something factual out there. What exactly the fact is only time will tell.

Cant there be a alternate space programs without "huge rockets"? Its not just Lear that is saying there are two space programs. Of course they have a secret space program researching UFO technology. Since they have been doing this for a long time, I have no doubts that some of the UFO's we see are man made and probably capable of traveling into space as well.

It seems very likely to me. And as for having people working on the moon, it could be ordinary military personal who have signed an agreement of silence about it. Doesnt need to be more complicated than that.

As for them speaking about it, I doubt it. There are so many classified projects going on right now, and rarely does someone speak about it. Because they know that if they do, they could get killed, their family could get killed, they could get charged with treason, they will get ridiculed and so on.


[edit on 9-10-2007 by Copernicus]

Originally posted by guyfrom2007
Gravity and Alien Technology

There are two forms of gravity. Gravity A works on an atomic scale. Gravity B is the type that holds us on the Earth and holds the Earth in orbit around the Sun.
Gravity is instantaneous. We use a gravity phone to talk to the grey aliens who live 1,000 light years away.

Is there any scientific evidence/articles on this? Just curious. For me, you could easily replace the word "gravity" with "magic" and it would actually make MORE sense than before.

Is there any scientific evidence/articles on this? Just curious. For me, you could easily replace the word "gravity" with "magic" and it would actually make MORE sense than before."

I agree with you. Gravity is a loosely used word to define these technologies.

Relating to scientific evidence would be tough as the technology is far more advanced than any of our current scientific findings.

For example, if a particle travels faster than light and travels into the future, how would you detect it using current scientific methods!!!


I have my own theory that I devised during my college years. It is called Gravitational Electrical Effects (GEE for short) theory.

This was about 10-15 years back and I am really out of touch with the physics of today. I had based my theory on the physics that is 10-15 years back.

But the main thing about my theory was that, under certain conditions an electromagnetic field in confluence with magnetic induction and gravitational force can create a resulting force that can dematerialize matter to neutrinos.

I know this theory sounds poppy cock. But I had done great deal of research and then arrived at this definition.

And the same time I was investigating the technology of UFOs and I arrived at some conclusions based on evidence presented by UFO encounters.

That using GEE force technology, one can convert matter to neutrinos and vice versa and thus practically travel billions of miles across galaxies without worrying about asteroids and other obstacles on the way.

That is because neutrinos are almost without any mass and can pass right through anything. In fact when you look at the sun a million of those might be passing right through you eyes.

Also if our SETI researchers are looking for inter-galactic spacecrafts, they will never find one. Because all inter-galactic travel will be not in sold or physcal form as they show in Star Trek.

It will be conversion of the spacecraft into a mass less form and then propelled to its destination by an energy force at the source and directed to a target source where it will rematerialize by altering its frequencies.

There are also natural observations of GEE forces, namely sunspots, supernovas and some on earth such as the Bermuda Triangle and elswhere.

I said this way back in 1987 and sent my papers to major universities of the US, but did not get any response.

I feel we are secretly working on this technology but not achieved much success because they are missing the SOUL element. That is we have not yet learn't how to disassociate the soul from the body and put it back.

The Aliens already know how to do that.











[edit on 9-10-2007 by guyfrom2007]

Following are links to some of my thoughts on Alien / UFO Technology.

www.book-of-thoth.com...

guyfrom2006.googlepages.com...

Here is something that is from mainstream science that relates to my GEE theory though very very indirectly.

If you want to seriously understand this theory, one has to study Neutrinos and Electromagnetism.

www.sciencedaily.com...

I will keep posting any new connect stuff i come across. Would encourage others to do so too.





[edit on 9-10-2007 by guyfrom2007]

Just to correct a couple of misconceptions:

1 - Although gravity is "instantaneous" that doesn't mean we can communicate using it. Gravity is (as far as we understand it) curved space-time. To bend space enough to communicate over a distance - assuming we find a way to do so - would cause all kinds of horrible problems along the path of the message. A "gravity phone" is completely incompatible with what we know about gravity.

2 - When a particle travels faster than the speed of light it goes into the past, not the future. Ordinary particles travel into the future in the normal course of things. Moving faster in space slows travel through time, untill c is reached, then time stops. Above c it goes backwards. Nothing can accelerate beyond c - a particle is either slower than light or faster for its whole existence.

Nice points.

But what you have espoused are current theories. What they teach in science books.

Laws of Physics are constantly changing and no one knows what happens when we go beyond the speed of light.

According to Einstein, the speed of light cannot be surpassed. But this is with respect to matter with mass. If we are able to convert matter to a mass less particle form or energy form then it may be to break Einsteins law.

Like I said physics that we know today is still evolving and no one can say....these laws are final. Though most scientists (because of their investment in current research) would have a closed mind, there are many who are keeping an open mind and investigating exotic theories.

Japan for example is investing a lot in Neutrino detectors and their Neutrino observatory was able to detect different types of Neutrinos and challenge many of the existing laws on these particles.

These are not widely reported in the mainstream press as they are boring technical topics. But they hold a great deal of significance for future research on space travel.

I'm sorry could you repeat that? My wife keeps talking to me. "HONEY IM ON THE GRAVITY PHONE CAN THIS WAIT 10 SECONDS?!?"

I'm sorry could you repeat that? My wife keeps talking to me. "HONEY IM ON THE GRAVITY PHONE CAN THIS WAIT 10 SECONDS?!?

I do not agree to the Gravity Phone either. But I can maybe talk about the GEE phone booth where a person enters presses a few buttons and presto he is into another part of the world in another similar booth. I hope you have seen Star Trek. It is as simple as that.

Ofcourse for this to be a reality, we will have to master the technology of teleportation as you saw in the movie "The Fly".

Interestingly, the FLY was released the year after I proposed my GEE theory.

Originally posted by guyfrom2007

I'm sorry could you repeat that? My wife keeps talking to me. "HONEY IM ON THE GRAVITY PHONE CAN THIS WAIT 10 SECONDS?!?

I do not agree to the Gravity Phone either. But I can maybe talk about the GEE phone booth where a person enters presses a few buttons and presto he is into another part of the world in another similar booth. I hope you have seen Star Trek. It is as simple as that.

Of course for this to be a reality, we will have to master the technology of teleportation as you saw in the movie "The Fly".

Interestingly, the FLY was released the year after I proposed my GEE theory.

Interesting thoughts you have here Guy. However, if you do not believe in the gravity phone, why would you bother to add it into your original post, so nonchalantly like it is common knowledge no less? I was just a little curious about that.

Unfortunately I have 0 knowledge of physics, so I am unable to comment on the validity of any of these ideas.






[edit on 9-10-2007 by sputniksteve]

Let's say we work out a way to "convert" ordinary matter into neutrinos. This seems extremely unlikely, but let's assume it can be done. Once you've converted a thing into neutrinos you shoot them out accross space to their destination, then recieve them somehow and convert them back into matter. How do you convert them back? The neutrinos don't "remember" what the original thing looked like, so if you've got a device which can recieve the neutrinos which used to be (say) a bannana and turn the into a bannana again, that device could do the same for any collection of neutrinos, but it would need a full description of where every atom goes. I.e. turning a thing into neutrinos is equivalent to destroying it, so re-making a thing out of neutrinos is as hard as making it from scratch. In fact it's exactly the same.

Even if this obstacle wasn't present, neutrinos still don't go faster than light, so you're not really getting anywhere.

Another argument against teleportation - to "send" a human (say) in this way, you'd need to send a full description of how to make that human from atoms. Even if you don't want to reproduce every single atom exactly, that's still a lot of information to send. To send enough data to describe a human to 1mm resolution would take about 10^32 bits (according to www.research.ibm.com...). This is simply not practical even with hugely improved technology.

Yes I was also going to add that thought. In this case wouldn't it be possible to just grab some neutrinos from space and make up stuff as we went? Now thats what I can't wait for. I want the machine where I just tell it to make me some food or drink, and it makes it. Thats fun stuff. Party like there is no tomorrow!

I perfectly agree with your comments about Neutrino conversion. I am also not sure how the Neutrinos could be converted back to its original structure.

But if there is a civilization that is millions of years ahead of us in technology then they may have found a way out. With regards to the speed of Neutrinos, there are certain Neutrino like particles called Tachyons (not yet discovered) which supposedly can travel at speeds faster than light.

I and you can only make assumptions on how this will work.

Here are a few steps that I can think of.

1. Embed a reconstruction code with the matter to be teleported.
2. Define the target destination not just by location but also in Time frame.
3. Calibrate the Teleportation device to convert the matter and teleport it to the destination. A tracker beam goes with the particles for the source to
identify the position and status of the teleported particles.
4. Send power through the tracker beam to reconstruct the particles on reaching the target back to the material form.

Ofcourse initially, they would send instruments and tracking devices that would be setup at the target which would beam back to source and install the communication line.

The second step would probably be sending unmanned stuff across to the target and do further research. Setup outposts and bases where robotic Teleportation devices would be setup for teleporting stuff back to the source.

And then maybe many hundreds of years later send live people.

But that too would not be necessary for advanced civilizations. They would have the technology to develop life like intelligent robots (like the grays) to do all their work on the target planet and send information back to the source.

And maybe when the source civilization has some agreement with the target civilization and setup full fledged secured teleportation facilities on the target planet with the concurrence of the government there ( in our case the US military) would the themselves travel to the target planet.

Whew!!!