Gordon Brown 'will back air strikes on Iran

Gordon Brown 'will back air strikes on Iran

www.nworeport.com

Gordon Brown has agreed to support US air strikes against Iran if the Islamic republic orchestrates large-scale attacks by militants against British or American forces in Iraq, according to senior Pentagon officials.

Washington sources say the Prime Minister has been informed of US plans to launch limited air and special forces raids against Revolutionary Guard bases.

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[edit on 7-10-2007 by UM_Gazz]

Not surprising!!

www.nworeport.com
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And just who plans to provide the evidence of them doing such?

So far the US have not released any evidence to my knowledge that Iran is behind or is equipping attacks on troops in Iraq, only speculation and unprovable claims. And to be honest could you really trust any evidence the US provide considering there track record.

INteresting that they are loking at ging after IRGC. I guess this is in line with the IRGC being classed as a terrorist orginisation.

Gordon Brown has agreed to support US air strikes against Iran if the Islamic republic orchestrates large-scale attacks by militants against British or American forces in Iraq, according to senior Pentagon officials.

Well, logically speaking, I think a responsive attack is obvious. A nation's military launches a large scale attack on our armies, and we are going to respond. As previous posters pointed out, the evidence could be suspect, but I would consider a a "large-scale attack" to be quite obvious. Say, a tank battalion rolling across the Iraq/Iran border and shelling a US (or British) base.

Accusing someone of arms distribution to our enemies would not be enough evidence, as far as I'm concerned, short of handing over a nuke or two. Heck, wasn't our own private contractors, Blackwater, just recently accused of doing this? And hasn't the CIA been doing this for years aswell?

-Warlo

Originally posted by Edn
And just who plans to provide the evidence of them doing such?

So far the US have not released any evidence to my knowledge that Iran is behind or is equipping attacks on troops in Iraq, only speculation and unprovable claims. And to be honest could you really trust any evidence the US provide considering there track record.

What type of evidence would be sufficient enough for you? Would you like to see the photos of Iranian military captured in Iraq? Would you like to see countless piles of weaponry and bombs seized coming over the border from Iran into Iraq as well those already imported and used on occupying forces? What will it take for you to believe that Iran is providing men and weapons? I ask this, because I want to know what type of evidence would be sufficient to convince skeptics.

Originally posted by infinite8
I want to know what type of evidence would be sufficient to convince skeptics.

that is the prime question that needs to be asked.

Id like to know, how quickly will airstrikes begin, should a solider be killed by an iranian device?

will we all of a sudden hear about multiple sites across the border in Iran being blown to bits, in response to an earlier attack that the media hadnt yet reported about?

And now, the public are playing catchup?... being given brief details of an attack that happened hours ago, because the media would clearly be focusing on the retaliation instead of the instigation.

the onus has now shifted from proving Iran is making weapons, to presenting a case that Iran is attacking occupational soliders in Iraq.
now, being we are the ones controlling media output from Iraq, I think its clearly the case that we are going to present a view that we deem nessecary to be seen.

Supposidly Iran has been involved in Iraq since the begining...
So, if we start seeing a drastic increase in -Iran-blaming-propoganda- it will be clear to me, that they are seeking any reason nessecary to strike Iran.

nuclear weapons failed to convince the public, so how about we start placing more men and materials close to the border... and see if they respond.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop

the onus has now shifted from proving Iran is making weapons, to presenting a case that Iran is attacking occupational soliders in Iraq...Iran-blaming-propoganda- it will be clear to me, that they are seeking any reason nessecary to strike Iran.

Ironic isn't it?

In the case of Iraq we saw the excuse..er...'justifications' for invading them, changing after we had already blown the crap out of their country.

With Iran we are seeing those changes happening before the attack.

Looks like the only thing the PTB have learned is to have their excuses down pat first. Guess in their mind they must think that will make another illegal invasion o.k. with the people in this country who just can't be bothered to see what's going on.

The rest of us know better.

Once again look at the reference NWOreport. This is a screwball website to call news. I am a conspiracy theorist but would not post a nworeport article on the breaking news forum.
DWT



[edit on 7-10-2007 by dntwastetime]

I'd be careful about sending the SAS in though. If they blow somehing up in a pre-emptive strike, by rights, they too will be classified as a terrorist organisation.
I think the problem now is when the US says they have captured Iranians or Iranian supplied weapons in Iraq people don't believe them. But it's obvious they are.
It's called "the boy who cried wolf" syndrome.
As for photographic evidence, come on! I could give you photos of armed Chinese troops invading my backyard. Not many people will trust US issued photographs.

[edit on 7/10/07 by NuclearPaul]

Mr Browns position in Britain is very fragile. He's decided not to have a snap election after the polls put him behind the Conservatives. The press have savaged him and Labour are looking weak. Nobody believes anything Labour say these days after the lies of Iraq. Brown and Labour are going to be spinning for the next twelve months trying to win support and part of that spin is to bring home the troops. Engaging in another war will surely be the nail in the coffin for the corrupted Labour party.



[edit on 7uSunday07/27/20 by paul76]

www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2007/10/07/wiran207.xml

Originally posted by dntwastetime
Once again look at the reference NWOreport. This is a screwball website to call news. I am a conspiracy theorist but would not post a nworeport article on the breaking news forum.
DWT



[edit on 7-10-2007 by dntwastetime]

my thoughts exactly didnt NWO report also say that we were going to full war footing this weekend? i dont trust nwo report. they seem to either be making stuff up or maybe they have confidential inforants but i doubt it.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Not many people will trust US issued photographs.
[edit on 7/10/07 by NuclearPaul]

And rightly so!
Credability went out the window..
But, that doesnt matter.
Because, once again.. all they need to do is APPEAR as if they believe what they are posting.
ignorance is bliss... and when it all turns out to be utter CRAP, they can once again go
'' we believed the Intel we had at the time was the best and most accurate ''

I can't talk much about this, but please check out these links to have an idea of what has been going on over there.

news.bbc.co.uk...
This was from last year and just one of the shellings that took place. I can already hear someone saying that Iran was attacking a terrorist group that threatens their country. If you think that then you can't say a word when the Coalition/Iraq military attacks the terrorists in Iran who are attacking them.

www.time.com...
This has more to read about this and includes Turkey.

And if you are wondering about the EFPs that are coming from Iran and being used against Iraqi and Coalition forces you can read that Iraq has alrady asked Iran to stop helping the terrorists.
www.cbsnews.com...

If you need to know when the proof of these EFPs were given to Iraq then read this.
www.npr.org...

So what did I just show you?

1. Iran has been attacking inside Iraq with shellings and cross-border insurgencies without asking for permission first. Sounds familiar doesn't it.

2. Proof was given to the Iraqi gov't proving the EFPs were coming from Iran.

3. These EFPs have killed Coalition/Iraqi troops, as well as innocent civilians.

Double post

[edit on 2007108 by NJ Mooch]

Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Not many people will trust US issued photographs.
[edit on 7/10/07 by NuclearPaul]

And rightly so!
Credability went out the window..
But, that doesnt matter.
Because, once again.. all they need to do is APPEAR as if they believe what they are posting.
ignorance is bliss... and when it all turns out to be utter CRAP, they can once again go
'' we believed the Intel we had at the time was the best and most accurate ''

Britain 'on board' for US strikes on Iran
www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2007/10/07/wiran207.xml

Looks like the story is true after all. I guess all that talk is about nothing.

Its ironic that Gordon Brown should set his sights on Iran considering his position as governor of this elected state. I wholly agree that if an alliance with the United Sates can be forged and both parties agree that action should be taken on Iran then it should be done. Iran is, and always has been a threat to peace in the middle East and the with the destablization of troops in NATO I see no choice but for an attack if it comes down to one. Only time will tell.

Iran can not be defeated. Because Shiite are not like Sunni, Shiite everywhere around the world will defend any strike against Iran.

Originally posted by TG
Its ironic that Gordon Brown should set his sights on Iran considering his position as governor of this elected state. I wholly agree that if an alliance with the United Sates can be forged and both parties agree that action should be taken on Iran then it should be done. Iran is, and always has been a threat to peace in the middle East and the with the destablization of troops in NATO I see no choice but for an attack if it comes down to one. Only time will tell.

Yeah I agree with that. I was hoping Gordon Brown would call an election - doesnt look like he will though.