Don't believe the disinfo. The face on Mars is real!

NASA has long stated that the face on Mars is nothing more than a natural formation, as well as there not being any pyramids on Mars or any other structures. I am still relatively new to ATS, and many of the subjects involving Reptilians and many other alien related topics to are new to me as well... but I do know one thing regardless of what the government says, the face on Mars at the very least has/had them intrigued and excited.

My father works for AUTEC (Atlantic Undersea Testing and Evaluation Center), which is located in West Palm Beach. They are contracted with the Navy to do a wide array of testing on military hardware. About 15 years ago when I was about 12 years old he brought home a video tape. I sat down to watch it with him and asked what it was. He said that NASA had a briefing in their offices and he just brought it home to see what they had been discussing that day.

It turned out they had many experts discussing photos taken of the surface of Mars. They first discussed a number of formations on the surface, nothing spectacular really. The next slide brought up was the face. In conjunction with geologic experts they basically concluded that based on the photos they had at that time there was no way that it was a natural structure. They began to discuss the ramifications of there being manufactured structures on Mars which I can't remember the specifics of unfortunately. The speaker said that after examining it, him and his team had asked a number of people not involved with the project working at NASA what it looked like to them. Most of them stated that it resembled a monkey. Based on the erosion of the structure they believe(d) that it was probably constructed while man was in an earlier stage of evolution.... and they thought that it could be some type of message directed at us from an advanced civilization. They all seemed very excited at the prospect of an alien race sending out a signal through a massive structure on Mars. Some also stated that it may just be what whomever constructed it look like, which makes more sense to me.

Anyhow, they also found a number of other structures, one that appeared to be more of a fort, there were both outer walls and inner walls. Which they said couldn't possibly be natural other. There were also about three structures that appear to be pyramids. All these structures formed a triangular shape if you were to play connect the dots with them. Also the structure described as a fort was triangular in nature when viewed from overhead.

This was the best picture I could find that gives an idea of the triangular pattern I'm referring to:

www.geocities.com...

They also checked to see if the locations of the structures corresponded with anything on Earth. It turns out that two of them correspond with the locations of the pyramids in Egypt and the pyramids of central America, and if I remember correctly the face corresponded to somewhere in the ocean near Hawaii. They were very excited about all of this, and concluded by saying that they were expecting some clearer shots of the area a few months down the road and they would have another briefing at that point.

Based on what NASA tells the public now, I'm guessing that although my dad could easily bring the video home at the time, it is probably locked away somewhere and classified. I never saw any more after this time. That's the gist of it, if anyone has any questions I'll be happy to try to answer them based on what I can remember. Before the people who believe the Navy base on Andros island is the USO equivalent of Area 51 swoop in to discuss AUTEC's involvement.... just understand that I have no knowledge of anything related to USO in relation to my father's line of work. I asked him once about it and he said that it was ridiculous, but then he is a government employee... so who knows. I personally, however, have no knowledge of USO activities.

Anyone interested?

Originally posted by Osiris1953
Most of them stated that it resembled a monkey. Based on the erosion of the structure they believe(d) that it was probably constructed while man was in an earlier stage of evolution.... and they thought that it could be some type of message directed at us from an advanced civilization. They all seemed very excited at the prospect of an alien race sending out a signal through a massive structure on Mars. Some also stated that it may just be what whomever constructed it look like, which makes more sense to me.

It's funny that you state this, because there are a few alleged contactees out there that say humans were first a primate race that lived on Mars, and then we were sent to Earth. Those structures could possibly be creations of the very first civilization of man.

[edit on 5-10-2007 by GeeGee]

I don't believe I'd heard that before, which would make plenty of sense considering on what I'd seen. I spend my time studying many things of this nature, but like I said this in the only first hand knowledge I have. Thanks for the post, hopefully we can get some more conversation in here.

Always been a fan of the Cydonia theories, still though, 70% of my brain tells me it probably is natural, and some of the evidence brung forward by the reent mars probes give strength to that, but still mystery lurks in my mind.

Hi

Yes i have also been interested in some of these formations but i am allways left with more questions than answers which leads me to believe these structures are natural.

Firstly if Mars was/is populated then these structures would be all over the surface and not just in one place.

Secondly i recall from other discussions that there is no wind on mars so no erosion. If there is no wind then these structures and evidence of a past civilisation would be everywhere for us to see. If you was to look at Earth from outerspace you would find tonnes of evidence to suggest the planet is populated. I do not see this with Mars.

There are also psycological issues. We as humans have an instinct to make faces out of anything that looks remotely like one. heres some examples.





Your post raised some issues also.

Why would they be using your fathers offices with cameras in plain view to discuss (which i assume) top secret issues? Somehow i don't find this believable.

This was the best picture I could find that gives an idea of the triangular pattern I'm referring to:

Triangles are very common in nature just make three dots on a piece of paper and you will see what i mean.

Very interesting. My father also told me of some strange things, but few in the 35 yrs. he gave me. Retired a Lt. Col. in the AF, tail-gunner in a B-17, helped set-up Radar-Bases overseas later.
Bogys over Greenland once after the war, sent up Jets, just played with our guys. Foo-fighters were all over during the trips over
Germany. They were concerned with the Nazi fighters and nasty AA. Told me once about them, no big deal. Worse things happened.
Stories like this make me think, somethings going on...but what?

Originally posted by onthefence81


Firstly if Mars was/is populated then these structures would be all over the surface and not just in one place.

They said that they were going to try to find similar structures elsewhere, but I have no idea what came of it. My Dad was very nonchalant about the tape when he came home with it. He works at a government facility and the fact that NASA was there for any reason was interesting to him, so he took the tape home. The nature of how he got it, I don't know. Whether he was supposed to have it, I don't know that either. I know what I saw, as far as erosion, there could have been water/wind on the planet at some point. There are indications that both may have been there at some point in the past. This is what experts from NASA said. Could they be wrong? Certainly, could they have been excited about something that did turn out to be a natural formation in later photographs, I suppose it's possible too. Based on the evidence they had in front of them at the time... they were damn near convinced they were dealing with extraterrestrials.

Thanks everyone for posting, I'll respond to the rest in a bit.... real life is calling for now.

I believe that those structures are natural. I mean...just look at them...they just look like hillls and mountains with shadows to me, nothing more. I think its just an incidence on an ovveractive imagination and a wish for mystery.

Originally posted by Smugallo
Always been a fan of the Cydonia theories, still though, 70% of my brain tells me it probably is natural, and some of the evidence brung forward by the reent mars probes give strength to that, but still mystery lurks in my mind.

I'd say go with the other 30%
For all who simply 'believe' that there is nothing artificial on Mars, but then supply no facts to support thier 'beliefs', then I take it that it is a 'belief system'. Or Faith based opinions. Or religion.
How about a few facts?
Statement:
The Face On Mars is an artificial construction, built by intelligent beings.
When The Scientific Method is applied to this statement, it is shown to be true. Beyond reasonable doubt.
With odds of 1000, Billion, Billion to one AGAINST it being a natural object.
Proof you say?
How about an astronomer who among many other things is/was :

Ph.D. in Astronomy from Yale University
1963 - Dec. 1983: Research Astronomer, Nautical Almanac Office, U.S. Naval Observatory, Washington, DC. Title: Chief, Celestial Mechanics Branch.
Author

Some published papers :

metaresearch.org...
Facinating individual.
Anyway, here is a small portion of the The Scientific Method as applied to the question; Is the Face Artificial:
If you have questions, then click the link below for a full discussion.

In Figure 2, it is possible to see details in the image (once the right correspondence to the Viking image is recognized) that might have been intended to portray each secondary facial feature – eyebrow, pupil, nostrils, and lips. These are more plainly visible in higher-magnification views with brightness and contrast adjusted for each area because of the limited contrast in the image. Such views may be inspected at metaresearch.org... in the Cydonia section. Detailed study with image processing software shows that these secondary facial features exist where expected by the artificiality hypothesis, but nowhere else on the mesa. This rules out a background of many similar features from which we might pick out just ones that fulfill our expectations. Moreover, each feature is present at the expected location, having the expected size, shape, and orientation. The odds are against any of these features arising by chance, and against each feature having any of the four listed characteristics. Each of these probabilities has been carefully and conservatively estimated in a fuller treatment of this topic. [1] The combined odds against all of these features being present and having all expected characteristics to the degree actually present, when taken together with the absence of similar features in the background, exceed a thousand billion billion to one (1021 to 1).

metaresearch.org...

This guy is a genius and a great speaker to boot.
I highly recommend downloading some of his interviews:

www.lauralee.com...

www.thespaceshow.com...

So. 1000, billion, billion to one?

I like those odds...

Osiris, I don't enjoy playing the debunker, but I used to be convinced Cydonia was chock full of anomalies. Unfortunately, the most recent hi-res photos of the area don't support it. As an example, I'll stick with the Fort feature you pointed out.

Here's the Viking image:




And here's the Global Surveyor's MOC image:




Hard to believe it's even the same object at first, but it is. It's disappointing, but images like this teach valuable lessons in how deceptive photography can be, especially when you're looking at low resolution images such as Viking's.

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Those new hi-res pics are most likely altered by nasa or they bombed those areas.

The truth is out there every night. The stars hold the key and you can bet the elite use them to control us.

Answers in the stars " Face on Mars"

As you learn about this stuff don't forget who you are!

[edit on 6-10-2007 by truth2u]

reply to post by Osiris1953


What they don't want us to know. Time to wake up!

Do you mean this "face"?



I think is just a geological formation, like many others on Mars.


Edit:
And I don't think that they "bombed" the area or changed the photos.


The new photo used in the animation above is from ESA.

[edit on 6/10/2007 by ArMaP]

It has been said that there is no wind on Mars. If that were the case then what is the cause of the sand storms that blocked the sunlight from the Spirit and Opprotunity rovers.

I also just noticed that in the overlay pictures above that the geological structure in the lower left looks like a human skull in the new high res photos. Maybe just evidence that you can see something in any thing.

reply to post by wsamplet


Yes, there is wind on Mars, it is one of its best known features, and has been for many years.

The dust storms are visible from Earth, if you search maybe you can find amateur astronomer's photos with Mars dust storms.

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You've got an image that keeps changing,I wonder why that is? Let' see hmmm airbrush?