Secret Space footage discussion/analysis

Hi, my names Arawn and I'd like to start a thread about The Secret Space DVD. Some of you might have watched it, I have it on DVD situated above my computer right now and I thought we could watch it and have a good chat about the contents. I'm sure it will give you all food for thought and hopefully show you some evidence/footage that you haven't seen before.

It lasts 1:44:37 minutes, so sit back with your favourite beer and snack and enjoy. Contribute to the thread of course! And sorry for the number of continuous posts by myself in advance! LOL

VIEW SECRET SPACE HERE (FULL)

Takes around 3:40 to get to actual footage/DVD.

IT STARTS WITH MOON INVESTIGATION, NAZI LINK WITH NASA AND THEN UFO'S. PLEASE WATCH.

Now, it starts off with an insight to what some believe - Did America actually step on the Moon when they did?

What do we find here? Why did they stage the moon landings (if you believe that)?....Money and UFO's!

Now we all should know that most of Americas build up of NASA scientists, especially in the mid to late nineteen hundreds came from Nazi Germany. Hitler had put together quite a nice selection of top specialist scientists, and after the war, USA wanted them. Germany were the first to build and constuct using Vernan Vaun Braun, the first cruise missile. After World War 2, America wanted the Nazi rocket weapons so badly that they constructed a plan. They launched Project Paperclip, which I'm sure many of you know about here? This Project Paperclip secretly changed the war criminal files on numerous top Nazi scientists. Vaun Braun and his team in Germany were transported to the USA. The Nazi's specialised in craft that used alternative propulsion, probably back engineerd from 'flying saucers.' As it goes onto say, Prescot Bush made vast loans to the 3rd Reich, a link which isn't uncommon today if you study the Bush family ties with The Bin Ladens. These finances were towards their space programme and the eventual production of the cruise missile.

At 15:36 we see the start of photographs from Germany - 1918, 1922, 1923, 1927, 1928, 1930, 1932, 1935 and numerous others respectively. Nazi Germany, inspired by these disks tried to recreate their own, such was Hitlers love of the occult. At 18:19 we see some footage over Area 51. Now what could these be? Weather balloons yes? Decoys by Area 51 men to confuse on lookers, or man made back engineered craft? What do you guys think? The cylinder shape on 18:50 to me is fascinating!

Now onto what David Icke says. Love him or hate him he brings something to the table always that we can discuss. He goes onto say that the space programme that we see and follow on television is only there to play as a movie, so it hides the 'real' space programme. Do people in 'the know', governments etc know about aliens and have they for a number of years? Are we being sold a cover story? I like how Icke goes onto discuss a part of his book where he mentions are we going into a 4th Reich, or just a continuation of the 3rd which never ended. Now look at that, some would argue he was crazy, but America stole NAZI SS scientists and are currently using them to control their space programme! Why weren't they arrested?...and because they are still carrying on their tasks...the 3rd Reich is still continuing. NASA and the CIA were setup and arranged by these NAZI scientists.

At 26:08 starts part 2 of the documentary. The documentary comes back at claims NAZI Germany didn't have a secret space programme, with written letters and designs from leading manufacturers, including BMW (who made some of the spacecraft engines,) showing Hitler cared a lot about the programme. Now we only have what we are shown. The DVD company could have made these notes up themselves sure (with my skeptic hat on,) but they also could be very true. Apparently Hitler spent 15 billion deutschmarks on creating spacecraft. Around 27:25 we hear that Von Braun and Hitler believed in aliens from other planets and had plans to conquer Earth, but then colonise the Moon. This leads me to the many pictures that I have seen on this forum. Are the NAZI scientists behind NASA implementing this goal right now? Are we planning bases on the Moon? From what I've seen recently on the ATS forum they could very well be doing just that. Why are some photos blurred? What have they found up there? In 1958 NASA thought up Project Horizon (Project Horizon) to plan how to colonise the Moon! So it has travelled from the NAZI's over to USA! The project was eventually cancelled after they realised Earth was covered in radiation, but I bet they are still going ahead with aspects to this day don't you think?

At 31:17 we can see what I've always thought for numerous times (and thoughts that have been brought up here I might add,) that "whoever controls the Moon, controls the Earth." You can launch rockets from the Moon and the enemy can't hit you back. We all know about the greed and power that corrupts Worldly governments surely by now right? This is still a plan of many governments on Earth to this very day, I'd bet on it.

36:50 and we come across a book called 'Suppressed Inventions.' The author of the book interviews Hermann Oberth "He makes it quite clear that he has studied the aeronautic performance of UFO's." Now, has anybody read this book as I'd be fascinated to hear what you make of it?! What do you think of the Mexican footage at 37:18?

Now at 37:46 Oberth says "Today, we cannot produce machines that fly the same as UFO's do. They are flying by means of artificial fields of gravity...this would explain the sudden changes of directions. This hypothesis would also explain the piling up of these discs into a Cylindrical, or cigar shaped mother ship, before leaving the Earth. Because it is in this fashion, that only one field of gravity would be required for all the flying saucers."

[edit on 27-9-2007 by Arawn]

He then added "We cannot take credit for all our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone. We have been helped. And we have been helped by the people of other Worlds." He said this in 1972 and almost 20 years later as quoted off the DVD footage in 1991, amateur footage captures these UFO's in a line, one above the next. See footage at 39:10 - it's incredible!

At 44 minutes we see footage looking at Mere spacestation surrounded by illuminated objects. What are these things? Space debry? Umm I don't think so. If there was that amount of junk in space, it wouldn't be safe to go up there full stop. I'm on the fence here to be honest, but the footage is very strange.

On 48 minutes we get a first glimpse of these 'space serpents' which I spoke about on another thread. What are they? They do seem to rotate and 'wiggle' around in the higher atmospheres of Earth and have even been found floating through space itself. They are cylindrical in shape and 'wiggle' around as I said. Weird space critters eh?

56:07 and we discuss the Space Station Mission STS-80 which is an amazing piece of footage. An illuminated object of sorts come straight passed the camera and settles down in the middle of the screen. Then as you're watching (and it's quite incredible) more and more objects seem to light up and appear almost in a circle. The last translucent orb comes into shot and then they begin flashing. Do you find this impressive? I certainly have no answers but only to say it's an amazing piece of footage!

Are alien craft attracted to thunderstorms? Before this DVD I was always facinated by some footage I'd seem of apparant Alien saucers hoving in space above Earthly thunder storms and from 59:23 we see craft above such thunderstorms/footage. Could they be so intelligent to use energy from these to power/harvest the electomagnetic energy from the atmosphere to charge up their craft, or for other equipment? Are they sucking the energy? It would make immense sense. If you need to travel light years across the galaxy then why not use natural resources? Are we not here on Earth finding natural energy sources, like Water and Wind farms etc? If these aliens are so intelligent, they could be doing the same thing but on a much larger, impressive scale.

1:01:24 let's us discuss a topic which has been brought up numerous times here (I've read the alien threads) about possibly there being a war in 'outa space.' Are we defending ourselves from invaders? The author/director of the DVD talks about the book 'The Day After Roswell,' written by Colonel Philip Corso. He served at White House and senior official at The Pentagon. In the book he clearly says "There is a war going on in space." You then see apparent footage of 'us' shooting a laser beam of sorts at an apparent UFO. So NASA have designed weapons from Nicola Tesler that are here on Earth? Plasma beams!? Corso then says that sometimes these craft are hit, collected up and then they back engineer the parts of the ship - Microchips, semi conductors, fiber optics, lasers and many other new metal alloys. Is this really going on?! 1:05:11 shows another apparent piece of footage and in my opinion the best yet. A UFO appears out of nowhere, travels at an estimated speed of 1,500MPH, then a flash appears, the craft/object moves so fast in the opposite direction of a beam appearing from the bottom left of the screen (it would appear from Earth.) They estimate the speed would be around 7,000 MPH Fascinating! Now what object can turn and 'floor it' that fast in a reverse direction?! Discuss!

At 1:07:45 we see a swarm of apparent UFO's interested in human space shuttles/satellites. The confusion of space control is hilarious! 1:08:24 starts a clip that shows spacemen outside probably repairing a part of the craft whilst an object comes into view in the background. You can clearly hear the senior pilot saying "There's an object at your 11'' clock position" and he says "Don't worry about it." Another piece of amazing footage that cannot be denied. It's from the mouths of people in space!

The movie then talks more about the alleged staged moon landings up until 1:27:30 (ish.) You hear, crisply, Appolo Astonaut Scott Carpenter filmed in 1999 talking about the number of contacts between them and the 'unknowns.' You then see an alleged 'sperm like critter' with an estimated size of 1 mile! Wowzers!

The film then goes onto discuss the Masonic gods, NASA, moon links and the final conclusion.

Sorry for the long post/posts, but I'm a real big fan of documentaries and analysing them. I thought we could do it here? I know the UFO forum is very active and I hope you have many ideas after watching the 1:44:37 minute film. Also I'd like to point out that there's official footage there, amateur footage and various interviews with people, so it covers a fair range of alleged evidence.

Sit back with some pop corn and give the movie a watch. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT?!

Sorry, I started to watch this, but when the beginning credits rolled by it said "David Icke" and I had to stop it before it polluted my brain. I've heared WAY to many things about him on this board to watch whatever nonsense he has most recently come up with. I'm not saying he makes EVERYTHING up, but he has been discredited a ton by people in the know.

David Icke features for around 5-6 minutes of the almost 2 hour long movie.

Hardly something to put you off from watching it

Thanks to referring me to this movie. It was definitely a fascinating watch, but unfortunately it is too late where I am and feel sleepy already. I may share my thoughts later. The one thing I really disagreed with was the way Aleister Crowley was presented at the end. Apart from that, great movie and quite thought provoking

reply to post by Arawn

Arawn, good stuff here, flagged
There are some pics i've never seen before, and the whole doc is well narrated

thanks for the link,never seen this one.
hope it's worth the time.. oi!!

Secret space? Isn't this available on Youtube or video.google?

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yep.....

youtube.com... 9 parts

There are Many clips of UFOs taken directly from the cameras aboard the Space Shuttle - never before seen by any member of the public. This film exposes the true nature of NASA and the secret space programme.

More than that, it expose the involvement of Aleister Crowley, Satanists and high ranking FreeMasons in the Apollo Moon Missions. We then journey deep inside Russia and learn of Alien Technology designed to Scan the 'soul' of an abducted person. We thoroughly analyse official NASA footage Of UFOs being shot at in space by secret weapons on the ground... And show for The first time NASA footage of a group Of extra-terrestrial lights which 'dance' And convey messages to the crew of The Space Shuttle, whilst hovering In the upper atmosphere. This is the First film ever made which exposes the ongoing SECRET SPACE WAR.

I'm really glad to see this documentary in its entirety. I've seen small clips of it regarding the sts-80 mission and I wondered where they had come from. man. Great find!

Wicked

There's a sequel to this movie due out soon. If I remember rightly it's called

Secret Space-Alien Invasion.

www.secretspacedvd.com...

I haven't watched this film and I haven't heard a review.

I've been waiting for the movie to become free.

Thanks for uploading that documentary for us to see!

Will be watching it sometime this evening!

Can't wait!

Originally posted by Arawn
You can launch rockets from the Moon and the enemy can't hit you back.

What an odd thing to say...

If you can launch a rocket from the moon and hit something on Earth, you can just as well launch a rocket from Earth and hit something on the moon. And on the plus side: no clouds blocking your view.

Long movie, but definitely worth the watch! Thanks so much for posting it! flagged

I read somewhere that Aleister Crowley was Barbara Bush's father, has anyone else ever heard this or is it just another silly rumor?

Fun to watch, but don't get too one-sided and turn a blind eye to science. For starters, go to

Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy site for real scientific explanations on:

- the lack of stars in the pictures taken by the Apollo astronauts from the surface of the Moon

- A rocket capable of landing on the Moon should have burned out a huge crater on the surface

- The exhaust should have blown all the dust away, yet we can clearly see the astronauts' footprints in the dust mere meters from the lander.

- In all the pictures taken by the astronauts, the shadows are not black

- radiation in the van Allen Belts and in deep space would have killed the astronauts in minutes

etc..etc...While I like the tin foil hat as much as the next guy, this is simply science fiction.