Anyone in high school? Do you HAVE to have your ID Card??

When I was in high school we had ID cards, but they were basically library cards. The only time we had to present the card was when we took out a book at the school library so they could scan it just like any regular library card.

Other then that you never had to show your ID at any point.

These days schools are getting pretty scary. RFID chips in cards. Cards having to be carried at all times. All this is is the governments way of training our youth at an early age.

Yea it does seem like conditioning for the future which I'm trying not to fall for For my school you can get in without a ID but once you're on campus they randomly ask you for your ID, which is semi understandable because of people that arent supposed to be there but if they just secured the parking lots no one not supposed to be there would be there. But for the lunch there is no account, you pay in cash and they scan your ID.


But what makes me really mad is the book and locker situation, they school was too cheap to buy lockers so the pta bought them and then they sell them to students, and you put your school books in there. So since the school doesnt own the lockers it's not their fault if they get damaged. So they will charge you 80 bucks if someone sprays inside your locker with paint or something.


So I agree with up above about it's all about money, but the ID cards just confuse me I see no use for them except for my little conspiracy mind.

NEWSFLASH

there are these things called phone books, and they list your name, address and phone number


run away !

reply to post by racerzeke


Rebell my friend, get all of your friends to get to school early with picket signs where the buses arrive and protest. If they try to stop you, ignore them like the don't exist.

That is the best way to get your message out

I'm in the UK, but I'll answer anyway. At school, we had to get an ID card for when we joined Sixth Form (16-18 years old), but we didn't have to carry it with us. It was mainly because we were at that age where we could start legally doing things we couldn't before, and to give us some form of identification so we could do these things without hassle.

However, 3 years later, my sister is at the same school, about to join Sixth Form. They are told they must carry cards at all times and produce them when a member of staff tells them to do so. If you fail to do so, you will be escorted off the school grounds.

And people wonder why I worry about the government program, when it only takes schoolteachers 3 years to turn into jumped up little autocrats...

Originally posted by syrinx high priest

there are these things called phone books, and they list your name, address and phone number

They don't list me, thank God I live in a free country......

I've managed to go my entire life (45 years) without being listed. I also walk the streets of my city with no identification in my pocket, and without fear of being busted for not having any.

I deal in cash with retailers, I don't carry any store "points" cards in my name, and I have no bills or loans in my name. People can't contact me unless I want them to, and the most exposure I have to the world is ATS.

I don't even get junk mail or ads from the mailman, no spam in my email, and my phone never rings with someone trying to sell me something.

You can be invisible if you want to be, or if you're paranoid like me.

That's the way I want to live my life anxiety I try to even though I'm not old enough to have ID or credit cards and all that "grown up" stuff. But I do unplug my internet every time I leave and try to not use my name anywhere nor do I give my phone number out. Probably doesnt stop anything but whatever.....


The only thing I dont like about this ID card crap is that it is being jammed into your head that you must have it, because you dont really. Everyone gets a student ID number so all they have to do is look that up which has your birthday and all that so they can tell who you are without having you show them a little card with your picture. I dont know maybe I'm just being to paranoid, but this ID stuff scares me

It will get worse if your school's students don't do something.

What do you think will get worse? I'm trying not to get in any trouble because the school doesnt mind giving out a ton of detentions or saturday school which will just make me even more mad Right now I'm kinda just riding along bugs me a little bit but if I have to sit my whole saturday there I'll be pretty mad Plus they will probably just sick their police officers on us who are constantly on duty which isnt bad I guess but still

Originally posted by racerzeke
That's the way I want to live my life anxiety

I try to even though I'm not old enough to have ID or credit cards and all that "grown up" stuff.

Unless you were never born, or your birth wasn't registered, you are already identified.:shk:

You already have a birth certificate, maybe a Baptismal certificate, or some other religious stamp that parents force on infants that can't express an opinion, or make that choice for themselves.

I checked your profile for the birth date you posted, so....

Do you have a drivers license yet ?
Do you have a Social Insurance or Social Security card yet ?
Have you opened a bank account, or got one of those pre-paid Mastercards ?
Have you ever entered a contest that you gave your name, address, phone number ?
How much information has the school system gathered on you over the years ?
etc.............

There is no way to avoid being identified and profiled throughout your entire life. Even medical and dental records become information that will be gathered, cross-referenced, bought, sold, and shared.

Being that you're young, you have an opportunity to minimize the trail of information you leave behind. If you take care of your information now, and are careful about what you give away, you may have a chance.

Above everything else, try not to get arrested at your age.
That just invites them into your life in a way that is very hard to get rid of in the future.

No drivers license or social card, or at least one that I carry. Ummm, the school has birthday, address, and all that junk that they need for you to be registered there. I have a savings account that my parents occasionally put in money but no credit cards or anything like that. Although- when my parents put in money or take it out of my savings I have to show my school ID & sign which is kinda lame I think.


And I probably given out my info on a number of occasions on the internet to register which I realize now is pretty dumb. But just basic things like email and zip code nothing more personal than that.

Originally posted by DaleGribble
i dont know about where you live but in sc yes if you are over 16 you mush have a pic id on you when you walk down the street..

I grew up in SC and I remember having to have cards all the way back to elementary school. In elementary and middle school, it was just a lunch card and they scanned it and took your money. But you couldn't buy lunch without it. They might let you skate by once but not two days in a row. Then in high school you had to have a school ID on a regulation school lanyard (no fun ones, just the crappy black ones), and it had your pic and a barcode to check out books from the library or buy lunch, and it also had a code on the back for whether you were able to drive, ride with someone, to the other campus in town during the school day.

It seemed like such a royal hassle at the time, but looking back it wasn't a big deal at all. The way our school was constructed, there was lots of space open to the outside and buildings spread about, so anyone could just walk onto campus. I can totally understand why they wanted us to have IDs.

reply to post by sc2099


You say you understand why they have ID cards, but do you really ???

Do you feel safer having a piece of plastic in your pocket that tracks you ???
Will little cards in your pocket stop a student from bringing a gun into class ???

They want you to think that your ID card is a way to protect you, but unless they make it into a Kevlar shield it is only watching you.......
I understand that they need to keep track of library books, they need to know who is attending the school, etc...

I'm at a point that I think it's gone too far, and now I need to surround myself with trusted people that allow me to mask my tracks behind false IDs just to exist in this society.

Buck the system.
It's not easy, but don't just hand over your freedom without justification.

Real nice, the school systems just opened up another way for terrorists to get to the kids if they ever decided to attack the schools. This is an interesting read on such a plan.

www.glennbeck.com...

Now add the fact that some schools track their kids throughout the entire school including the bathrooms and locker rooms. If terrorists get their hands on the school's tracking device, they will now be able to track down every last child in that school. No one will be able to hide. The poor child thinking they found a great hiding place, will be wondering how they found him/her so fast. Not knowing it is that little chip in their ID card that gave them away.

Any school students with an ID that can track, ditch the ID and run to the nearest hiding place/exit if you yelling or shooting that could be a possible terrorist attack.

Other than that, the ID cards are just for conditioning. It seems like the government is starting with your generation to prepare you for less freedom and more control. Society could very well become highly controlled if we let things happen. Too many times people will give up their freedoms for promises of false security.

If you get time, track down George Orwell's 1984. It was written a long time ago, but well worth the read. Just remember that when the book was written, they didn't have all the tracking devices we have now. The scary part is that this type of society is very possible today.

Those in control want to literally control everything from what you eat to who you can love. They do this through brain washing in the school system, the controlled media, people snitching on each other (people in today's society calling social workers on parents out of spite), keeping people in fear, creating a fake war against citizens against their own citizens and blaming a non-existent enemy, and their prison (the house of love in the book) that touchers adults into compliance whether they actually step out of line or not. There are cameras and mikes on every street corner and in every room. The citizens in the book have no privacy, and can not even talk out loud without them knowing what you are saying.

The control goes so far that they want to control not only the person's behavior, but also their mind and thoughts.

It really sounds to me like your schools are already giving you a small taste of that Orwellian society, and may even be preparing you for that type of society.

Who knows, maybe Orwell's himself was on to something, and written that book as a warning to those who would listen to it. This is also the reason why your rights are so important to you and all of us. As they take away your right to do things, they take away your freedoms. After awhile you won't have any freedoms left.

China is already taken away the freedom of how many children can be born in a family. I'm sure some government somewhere has it in the works to take away the freedom of even being able to have a child unless approved by the government to do so after taking x amount of "parenting" classes. Also, probably forced "home visits" to "make sure" the parents are complying, and the kids have "no complaints" whether real or fabricated.

Welcome to the future. Now what are you going to do about it?





[edit on 1-10-2007 by Mystery_Lady]

Yea my school is pretty beefed up on security.... They regularly have at least one police office gun & all on duty sometimes two, the principal, vice principal, and about 6 other school officials constantly keep watch on the students during lunch I mean it's freakin creepy everywhere you feel like you're being watched. Now they start carding everyone and it's really lame.


They will punish you for any foolish little thing which is really annoying and it sets you straight because their punishments are harsh.


It may not be conditioning us for the future or whatever, but I definitely believe that it has something to do with keeping the schools record clean, probably for bonus funds or something.... I dont know but there is definitely something in it for the districts, which I think is wrong I mean it's a public high school and they're trying to pressure their kids into looking good for them


freakin bullcrap

reply to post by anxietydisorder


Calm down there, cowboy. Yes, I do understand why they have us wear ID cards. The Faculty wear them as well, so in a quick glance school security or faculty or even students can tell if someone who doesn't belong is on campus. Duh, of course nothing is going to stop a student from bringing a gun to school, but nothing will and no one tried to imply that it would. Also, it allows the faculty to know if you're skipping school when you head out to the parking lot between classes or if you're just driving to the other campus.

How is the faculty making you wear an ugly necklace infringing on people's freedom? It doesn't track you in your movements even on campus - it's just a piece of plastic. It's just part of the dresscode, and if people hate it so much, they can just be homeschooled or move to a district that doesn't have an ID policy.

In grade 9 first semester, they just added this rule, you had to wear an ID on you at ALL times, it was BS...
The school I'm going to now, they are heading that way..

Added the 'No Hat' rule everywhere in the school along with no mp3 players.
Everyone accepted the rules, took there hats off and hid there mp3 player haha... panzys, I still wear my hat and my mp3 player hanging from my ears lol... when I go.

EDIT: I think it's all to get us used to a NWO.

Also, Something that has been bothering me is this new school server... it's here in the Durham area and screwed everything up and slowed down the computers... Everything used to be stored locally(all personal information, grades, info, info, info) and now it's stored on some big server, I'm totally in the 'system' now.

[edit on 10/2/2007 by Bumr055]

reply to post by racerzeke


Hmmmm........

This sounds a helluva lot like soemthing going on at my school. A helluva lot. I seriously think we might go to the same school.

Anyway, we have to wear them too. I feel like we are being cataloged with the "student numbers" too. Do I smell a conspiracy?

Thats good you brought up the computers.... They give us some numbers and a password to log onto the school computers and they all run on one server and they use scare tactics to make us not do anything inappropriate but one thing really caught my ear..lol.... He was talking about how a bunch of people read your stuff not just the two people in the IM...


So our librarian was telling us about how everything you type goes to some bigger server in sacramento and is read by their agents......


So anyway he was telling us that this girl was typing to her friend and that they would meet at this store and that the agents picked this up and intercepted her before she meet because it was potentially a dangerous situation......


Pretty scary

Originally posted by racerzeke
So anyway he was telling us that this girl was typing to her friend and that they would meet at this store and that the agents picked this up and intercepted her before she meet because it was potentially a dangerous situation......


Pretty scary

That is a serious infringement to that girl's right to privacy. That is basically the same thing as wire tapping. Actually I wonder if it could be considered wire tapping, since the information was transferred over the wires to another computer. The girl knew nothing about it.

What right do they have to determine if it is a potentially dangerous situation? I could see if she didn't know this person, but more than likely it was a good friend of hers she was going to meet.

I really hate no good busy bodies who think they know what's best for everyone. You're not allowed to do this or that, but you can do the one thing you hate the most. More often than not, they make things much worse than it originally would have been. Most of the time, every thing would have been all right.

Anyhow, I hope everyone here isn't using the schools computers to access this website. I hate to see you get in trouble for that. I hate to see the infraction that would bring after hearing about what happens to students who bring a plastic butter knife to school, bring a kids hand held pencil sharpener to school, or accidentally drop a piece of cake on the floor.

The insanity needs to stop.