Rotating Cloud?

Hi Everyone,

I was out today walking down my mums house, it was a cloudy day hardly any blue at all. While walking i observed a cloud which seemed to be seperated from the rest not higher or lower just sort of on its own with a blue border around it then clouds. The wind was quite strong so the clouds were moving fast across the sky in an northern direction the one cloud i spotted was moving slowly with the rest in the same direction, the only difference was it had a distinct rotation going counter clockwise.

This at first puzzled me as i havent seen this before, im always watching the skies in the hope of seeing something of interest (mostly Chemtrails these days :-) ). I wish now that i had my cybershot phone with me as the cloud was slow moving and would of been easy to of got it on film!
I live in Wales in the UK near Cardiff the welsh capitol, in a town called Pontypool.

Does anyone here know firstly is this normal and why it was rotating or have you seen this before yourselfs?


Sostyles

P.s i had the idea of UFO sitting inside the cloud and the rotation of the saucer was moving the air and clouds around the saucer thus creating the rotation. (just an idea i had)

I've seen those things before, but I usually put it down to a forming twister that couldn't pick up enough speed to touch down. Happens a near where I live. Occasionally we'll have little dust devils that form, then break down again a minute later, only to form back again somewhere further downwind.

Could it be one of those? I mean the failed twister?

Thank you for your interest Beachcoma!

I can see your logic, i too thought about that possiblility but in my country it is very hilly and very very rare to see Tornados, dust devils or any kind of weather that the USA gets that is why it seemed so strange to me!

I just wish i had my phone or at least a witness to back-up my story!

The worst weather we get is a bad storm or snow!

It has popped in to my mind that the Brecon Beacons national park are just north of me,and the cloud seemed to be headed north. The reason this stands out to me is that ive heard recently that the government moved into the area and are doing some "Work" there, much to the locals and Nature lovers disagreement.

Nobody knows what the government are doing there, but some stories have come to light that they are just digging a pipeline through there but people claim to have seen heavy machinery going up there as well as guards stopping you entering a cornered off zone!

I will see if i can get some links to support this!
Personally i think the government are making a base there as it is the perfect spot, its in a mountain range pretty isolated and its in a protected area a "National Park"

Cheers

Sostyles

Originally posted by sostyles

I can see your logic, i too thought about that possiblility but in my country it is very hilly and very very rare to see Tornados, dust devils or any kind of weather that the USA gets that is why it seemed so strange to me!

Now that's interesting. It used to be extremely rare in my area too, and I'm not in the US. I'm in Malaysia. It used to be just by the coastal areas, now it's on hilly, rolling terrain as well.

I can't explain it. I think I'll blame it on global warming

We could blame it on global warming i agree but i believe that cloud was somthing other than a weather anomaly, if you would of seen it i think you would of agreed that it was weird.
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To my asumptions i think it was rotating at 5 or 6 mpg

this is a diagram i drawed of the cloud as i saw it!
Diagram

This was weird!
sostyles

Hi Sostyles

Can you confirm the date and approximate time you saw this?

My guess is that it was a local phenomena caused but updrafts from the nearby hills but I'd like to check back and find out if there was any tornadic activity reported at the time and, indeed, what the synoptic conditions were

Sometimes although the prevailing wind is in one direction there may be local eddies that causes a few clouds to move differently to the rest.

Good Reply Essan

This happened on 22nd of September at about 3 - 4 o'clock in the southeast of Wales in the Hills just north of Cardiff.

How would i go about checking if there was any unusual weather activity in the area?

I do see your point about the updrafts from the hills could of been causing it, the location i am at has 3-4 mountains around me with a clear view to the south towards the sea.

What was puzzling was that the other clouds around were moving quite quickly north, but this cloud was spinning but still moving with the other clouds at a same speed.

Thank you
Sostyles

I've posted a message at Ukweatherworld to see if anyone has any ideas and/or saw anything themselves

www.ukweatherworld.co.uk...

Hopefully we can solve the mystery!

Ok thank you!

lets hope someone else saw this or something like it before.

Sostyles

Hi, there's something that sounds quite similar on NUFORC webreports. Spotted over Kirkcaldy, Fife, on 29 July. Description is - "rapidly rotating cloud formation, with 2 inner formations within the main body."

nice spotting Wigit!

The way you described it sound about right except there was only one cloud that i saw.

Have you got the link to the Report as i would like to have a read.

Thank you
Sostyles

[edit on 23/9/2007 by anglosaxon]

Dont worry will smith will save us!!!!

they can shut down the shields from a computer viruses.

Aliens write in C++ also so this works >< what!

I'll post the link if someone can tell me how to do it. I haven't a clue. The reason I spotted it is I read this thread first then saw it on NUFORC and though it was the same story.

Originally posted by sostyles
Hi Everyone,

I was out today walking down my mums house, it was a cloudy day hardly any blue at all. While walking i observed a cloud which seemed to be seperated from the rest not higher or lower just sort of on its own with a blue border around it then clouds. The wind was quite strong so the clouds were moving fast across the sky in an northern direction the one cloud i spotted was moving slowly with the rest in the same direction, the only difference was it had a distinct rotation going counter clockwise.

This at first puzzled me as i havent seen this before, im always watching the skies in the hope of seeing something of interest (mostly Chemtrails these days :-) ). I wish now that i had my cybershot phone with me as the cloud was slow moving and would of been easy to of got it on film!
I live in Wales in the UK near Cardiff the welsh capitol, in a town called Pontypool.

Does anyone here know firstly is this normal and why it was rotating or have you seen this before yourselfs?


Sostyles

P.s i had the idea of UFO sitting inside the cloud and the rotation of the saucer was moving the air and clouds around the saucer thus creating the rotation. (just an idea i had)

i find that quit intresting never really seen something like that before i think i have to observ the sky more often

There's been suggestions this could have been a lenticular cloud in the process of formation (topography does make that a possibility) but I doubt we'll ever know for sure without seeing a video/photos and/or having an experienced observer witness something similar.

getting a video of this will be very hard lol

Originally posted by Beachcoma
I've seen those things before, but I usually put it down to a forming twister that couldn't pick up enough speed to touch down. Happens a near where I live. Occasionally we'll have little dust devils that form, then break down again a minute later, only to form back again somewhere further downwind.

Could it be one of those? I mean the failed twister?

a twister forming in the UK? Only one of those has happened in the past 100 years and that was just last year. Though i suppose its possible for it to TRY to form...I would think it unlikely though.

Originally posted by deadangel23


a twister forming in the UK? Only one of those has happened in the past 100 years and that was just last year. Though i suppose its possible for it to TRY to form...I would think it unlikely though.

I think there's about 50 or 60 twisters reported in the UK every year. What's different about this cloud though, is that it was on it's own, so it was probably just a wee cloud caught up in a wee whirly wind separated from the other clouds. It doesn't sound like a lenticular cloud being made. Lenticular clouds are usually very still and high up and you don't see much movement with them. They just "form" and they don't spin, though they can end up looking like a spinning top.

Hey Sostyles,
I live in cardiff too, but I have never seen what you described. I did see a UFO last year though flying over the city, really high up!
I have read in some books ( I think it was beyond top secret) that some UFO's can disguise themselves as clouds. I wonder if this is what you saw?