Republicans Call for Ahmadinejad to be Kept Out of US

Republicans Call for Ahmadinejad to be Kept Out of US

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Washington: Two Republican presidential candidates, Mitt Romney and John McCain, have denounced Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s visit to the United Nations later this month, demanding that he be kept out of the United States.

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I've heard other negative comments concerning his upcoming visit, and maybe under the circumstances barring him from the US isn't such a bad idea, then again, maybe some wack-job will assassinate him and neutralize the tensions between Iran and the world.

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Yeah, the US are afraid of having to actually talk to him. I mean, we cant have that... people talking to eachother? Didnt we invent the bomb to fix that problem?

Seriously, the US officials are more worried about him getting his opinions heard in the mass media, they will have a real problem covering that up and making him look like a evil terrorist. Its easier when you invent the terrorist yourself, like they did with bin laden. Then you can control what they say.

This shows just how insane USA is in my eyes. They dont want diplomacy, they want war. They dont want understanding, they want hate and anger.

Originally posted by the_sentinal
maybe some wack-job will assassinate him and neutralize the tensions between Iran and the world.

The tensions are Made In America, friend.




[edit on 19-9-2007 by Copernicus]

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I think it's pompous and arrogant, keep Iran out of the UN... isn't the purpose of the UN to help bring peace and order to the world? How are we supposed to achieve that when we prevent people we don't get along with out of it?

The Americans who want to stay in Iraq and wait for diplomacy to work there are the same ones who don't want to have to be bothered with diplomacy with Iran. What sense does that make?

Why ban him from the US ??

The guy is president of a sovereign nation, and has EVERY right to attend the UN regardless of the country in which the UN meeting is being held...

Angry and Copernicus you both made valid points...Surely the rest of the UN (incl. the US) would want to talk to Iran rather than simply make them outcasts and bomb the you know what out of them...

But come to think of it, without war, the US economy is probably going to go belly up before long...

Sad really...

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Sure, blame the US, everybody else does, it's Iran that has refused to obey the UN so why should he be allowed to come and blow more smoke up the counciles butt, he will never give up the nukes he's just trying to buy more time, so that he can achieve the bomb. I say lock him out untill he complies with the UN's wishes.

This can only go both ways:

IF president of Iran can not visit United States,

THEN president of United States can not visit Iran.
(combat airplanes are included)

i'd say invite him to speak at the U.N.

but have one of those portable screen-machines on site
because Ahmadinejad has a background of being promoted
through the Revolutionary Guard, and the Martyrs brigade...

he could be wearing a martyr vest into the General Assembly
or he could pass out copies of his speech...
laced with microscopic Anthrax on the paper !!

we just don't know what his instructions from the Supreme Leader are.

I believe that as long as we host the United Nations in the United States, we need to allow any officials from other countries to visit, no matter how unsavory we find them.

Of course, some people do want the U.N. out of New York. I think many people are dreaming of what types of beautiful condominiums they could build on that site!



[edit on 9/19/2007 by djohnsto77]

Im sure the US doesnt have the right to ban him from going to the United Nations

They may have the right to stop him stepping outside of the building but Im sure they dont have that right to ban him as I was under the impression that the United Nations Building was in the same classification as an Embassy

Originally posted by Chorlton
Im sure the US doesnt have the right to ban him from going to the United Nations

Yeah, well how is he going to get there? It's not like they have a runway they could land a 747 on...

Originally posted by the_sentinal
reply to post by Copernicus

 

Sure, blame the US, everybody else does, it's Iran that has refused to obey the UN so why should he be allowed to come and blow more smoke up the counciles butt, he will never give up the nukes he's just trying to buy more time, so that he can achieve the bomb. I say lock him out untill he complies with the UN's wishes.

The UN is in America, but it is not America`s. That`s the whole point.

As far as blaming America, what do you expect, when American politicians spend upwards of Twenty-Five bloody YEARS isolating Iran because they had the nerve to revolt against the guy you installed (removing their democratically elected leader in the process)?

America has waged war on two of Iran`s neighbors, swamping them with refugees, backed another war in the 80`s that had chemical weapons being used against Iran - while all the while refusing point blank to accept any democratic overtures with the government of Iran - again, for over 25 years now.

And now, after a few years of sabre rattling, two overblown, trumped up, attention seeking presidential candidates are calling for the USA to back out of a Treaty obligation to score points in fly-over country.

Just why exactly should anyone BUT America be blamed in this particular case?

Originally posted by St Udio
i'd say invite him to speak at the U.N.

but have one of those portable screen-machines on site
because Ahmadinejad has a background of being promoted
through the Revolutionary Guard, and the Martyrs brigade...

he could be wearing a martyr vest into the General Assembly
or he could pass out copies of his speech...
laced with microscopic Anthrax on the paper !!

we just don't know what his instructions from the Supreme Leader are.

Okay, I don't see what the problem is. lol

But seriously, as much as I view the U.N. as totally worthless, if the U.S. is going to start restricting sovereign nations' abilities to represent themselves at what the U.S. has decided to recognize as the world's representative organization simply because we're in a shoving contest with them, then the U.N. needs to pack up and tell the U.S. to stick it in their soon to be vacant building.

You either decide you're not going to play in the U.N. sandbox or you decide you are and play by the rules. We can't go banning country leaders we're pissed at from speaking to the global community.

PNAC's getting a little panicky now.

Originally posted by St Udio
he could be wearing a martyr vest into the General Assembly
or he could pass out copies of his speech...
laced with microscopic Anthrax on the paper !!
we just don't know what his instructions from the Supreme Leader are.

Are you serious?

Im hoping your not...
I mean... jesus... whats happened to society.... for a person to ,honestly think that?

What has he done to date, to warrant him murdering hundereds of foreign diplomats?

Isnt this the same man, thats asking for transparent, open discussion about the core issues?

Yet, here I find nothing, but Americans denying him his right, to answer his accusers.

No wonder the world hates you!

You seem to pick which nations are going to be devestated into 3rd world countries, for no -snip- reason!

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[edit on 9/19/2007 by Gools]

Originally posted by djohnsto77
I believe that as long as we host the United Nations in the United States, we need to allow any officials from other countries to visit, no matter how unsavory we find them.

Of everything that was said here I agree with this statement the most, my personal opinions aside.
I also think that if the U.N. general assembly building were to be moved most in New York would find it a bad idea.

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or maybe we should exclude the US from the UN and start handling things properly? In my oppinion that would be much better for all parties... the US has lost all objectivity regarding foreign policy.

So we don't want Iran to play in our sandbox?

Maybe we should send over an official Nanny Nanny Boo Boo from the State Department and tell them, with full diplomatic impunity, that they are all "booger eaters" and that we hate their "poop faces".

This is completely ridiculous. The US is pushing the line that we MUST exhaust diplomacy before we consider war, and we won't let the diplomacy part happen.

I give up...

He's been at the UN before in NY while he had an intelligent interview with Matt Lauer that showed his good side. I say let him in and allow him to speak. That's what the UN is for - for reslolving conflict. How can we resolve conflict if we don't allow someone to speak?

[edit on 19-9-2007 by curiousbeliever]

This is a very poor political move by these two candidates. Honestly, I can't call John McCain a candidate anymore because of that hand thing he does, you know the one where he looks like he's about to karate chop a wood plank?

It's obvious 'they're' afraid of what this guy will say while at the UN.

Peace

Censorship will be in full when the Iranian president will talk...I mean viewer in USA will not hear or see all what he will say except maybe in YouTube or other video base website.
I remember seeing in the net Hugo Shaves talking about bush last time in the UN...that was comic!
I don't think the Iranian guy will make people life.

Will see when he comes there.

Kacou