NWO is a good thing.

I know what your thinking. "Is this guy crazy?" We will be enslaved by martial law, black helicopters, FEMA camps, ect ect...

The facts are that for humans to continue to survive we will become under one government, one language and one general culture.

I'm sure many of you have heard of Dr. Michio Kaku, the " Japanese American theoretical physicist, tenured professor, and co-founder of string field theory, a branch of superstring theory. He is a widely known popularizer of science, the host of two radio programs, and the author of numerous books."

As he says in many of his lectures, for humans to go from Type 0 civilization to Type 1 we will become under one government, one language and one general culture.

Here are a few links.

The Kardashev Scale

Dr. Michio Kaku's Videos

Also a "NWO" is not a bad thing, that doesn't mean it could have bad people running it. We are very very lucky we have the internet, it is a great tool to help pick out those kind of people, but as we can see now already with major corporations editing wikipedia articles and such it's getting harder and harder to get the truth out there without looking like a fool.

Cheers!

Originally posted by DarkStar86
The facts are that for humans to continue to survive we will become under one government, one language and one general culture.

That is painfully obvious to me. There is one problem though. They are trying to set up this type of system without the general public's knowledge. If we can't set it up the right way, how will it be good for anyone. All I'm saying is if it's so good for us, let us in on whats going on. Don't change our world structure, if it means doing it without our consent or knowledge.

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The thing is, if you look at things like the Georgia Guidestones, we're looking at 12 out of every 13 people dying.

Also, I've been inclined to think this way before after hearing interviews from Dr. Kaku, AND Dr. Richard Hoagland, and I'm not saying it's necessarily true, but when you start reading about Luciferian cults and cannibalism and devil worshipping sacrifice, it can be a little discouraging.

Maybe they're keeping to their own selfish motives.

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"A" NWO could be a good thing.
"The" NWO (that people think we are heading towards) is a terrible thing.

I dont belive in either for the record.

Originally posted by jprophet420
"A" NWO could be a good thing.
"The" NWO (that people think we are heading towards) is a terrible thing.

I dont belive in either for the record.

Can I ask why?

Ha! One liner!

Originally posted by bigbert81
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The thing is, if you look at things like the Georgia Guidestones, we're looking at 12 out of every 13 people dying.

Also, I've been inclined to think this way before after hearing interviews from Dr. Kaku, AND Dr. Richard Hoagland, and I'm not saying it's necessarily true, but when you start reading about Luciferian cults and cannibalism and devil worshipping sacrifice, it can be a little discouraging.

Maybe they're keeping to their own selfish motives.

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Can you give me some links to some of these claims? Very interesting.

Originally posted by DarkStar86

Originally posted by bigbert81
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The thing is, if you look at things like the Georgia Guidestones, we're looking at 12 out of every 13 people dying.

Also, I've been inclined to think this way before after hearing interviews from Dr. Kaku, AND Dr. Richard Hoagland, and I'm not saying it's necessarily true, but when you start reading about Luciferian cults and cannibalism and devil worshipping sacrifice, it can be a little discouraging.

Maybe they're keeping to their own selfish motives.

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Can you give me some links to some of these claims? Very interesting.

Of course:

Georgia Guidestones
www.radioliberty.com...

Dr. Machu Kaku
www.consciousmedianetwork.com...

Dr. Richard Hoagland
www.consciousmedianetwork.com...

*BONUS* George Green
video.google.com...

Satanic NWO
www.thewatcherfiles.com...

Cannibilism
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sacrifices
www.totse.com...

www.conspiracyarchive.com...

Miscellaneous videos
www.funzulu.com...

The problem with the NWO being a good thing is that it isn't a NWO but a OWO(Old World Order). It's the same body, with different faces. Megarich bankers, multinational corporations and corrupt politicians thinking they know what is best for humanity and trying to impose it without asking us, the citizens of the planet, what are thoughts on all this is. Instead, we get inconceivable ideas like Eugenics, or the prevalence of Military-Industrial Societies leading the charge to a NWO. Or mass stereotyping by racial profiling of segments of the population causing us to live in fear of our brothers and sisters from other parts of the planet.

Can a One World Society be a good thing? I think it could work and bring humanity as a species to a new level. But for it to work it needs to be inclusive not exclusive. Like the thought of one world religion. That's preposterous. There are so many ways of interpeting your spiritual experiences to push them all into one box just doesn't work. Who decides which one comes out on top? What happens to the rest? Same with language. Why does there need to be one language? I understand the need for official documents and the like to be in a common language but who decides? Should it be English? Chinese? Arabic? Russian? Or one of the other world's dominant languages. Maybe French or Spanish? Who decides?

lol great there goes my night of relaxing, jk. thanks, ill be sure to read up

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What we need to understand is that we are going to have to make sacrafices as whole to get to the next level of civilization. Try telling that to %90 of the people in thr world today. For them buying a hybrid or turning off the lights when they leave a room is almost too much of a burden.

The NWO has to make a choice. Either develope a system where all people will have to make sacrafices and not live accesive lives as they choose or possibly decrease the population.

I believe will will never live those hollywood depicted utopia lives. We will most likely have to have population control for now since we cannot sustain an equal level of living with 6.5 billion people.

So maybe there will be these secret programs to decrease the population, maybe by manufactured diseases, maybe by altering peoples genes where the government chooses when they can or if they can have a child or children.

Until we have the means to provide for total freedom of population growth there will be these programs, its a sacrafice.

My spelling is horrible, sorry. Probably my grammar too..

Like a previous poster said, AN NWO wouldn't be a bad thing. However, THE NWO, towards which we are speeding, is nothing but bad news for the entire human race.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for world unity, global community, friends across continents etc etc, but I don't want unity under a fascist corporate dictatorship, where everyone is branded like cattle, where if they ever got the impression you THOUGHT the wrong things, you'd be thrown in a cell for a very long time.

And if its SO good, why the secrecy? Why the millions of deaths? Why is the MIC running riot over people's lives? Why are pharmaceutical giants not being taken down for the way they hoard medical and pharmaceutical technology? Why has it taken them so long to release next generation tech for the world to take advantage of? Tech that would aid mankind immensely, no less... or do they want to control it?

Let's be frank here: this NWO is NOT about the betterment of mankind. It's the betterment of an 'Elite' few, it's about controlling the planet with an iron fist. No freedom, not even free thought.

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Let's be frank here: this NWO is NOT about the betterment of mankind. It's the betterment of an 'Elite' few

A great way to put it. Unless we know if these Satanic and supreme fascist accusations are true, we cannot say that this unity would be a good thing.

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I read and skimmed all of your material here, i have yet to watch the videos.

Can you please find me some credible and concrete evidence of these claims? Honestly.

The bohemian grove is nothing but a boy scout camp for political and corporate leaders to bs and relax. It's for the people who really need to feel they are part of some kind of special club. I've watched Alex Jones's video on it. Looked like a grown up boy scout camp to me with a ritual at the end.

I really do not know how you can take this kind of material seriously. Although it makes for great entertainment it's just not as significant as your made to think.

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Thanks for your post, but I also did say in an above one that "I'm not saying it's true".

These are accusations and there is (at least to some) evidence for such going ons.

Watch some of the videos, most of my knowledge about these things comes from the videos. There are not only Alex Jones' videos about the Bohemian Grove, but videos leaked from ex-employees, testimonies, even a good news-like program episode (been awhile since I've seen it) on Youtube.

Watch some videos, do some searches on Youtube, and check out what funzulu.com get smart videos have to offer, then let me know what you think.

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Originally posted by John Percival Hackworth

Let's be frank here: this NWO is NOT about the betterment of mankind. It's the betterment of an 'Elite' few, it's about controlling the planet with an iron fist. No freedom, not even free thought.

You have to understand for mankind to get to a point of these freedoms we have here in America to be universal we need to take great sacrafices. Maybe millions will die, maybe. I believe these "Elite" few that everyone talks about on here could be as large as a billion, or as small as 100 million.

I have no problem with concentration the population down to good and productive and understand people of the world. It happens naturally all the time. With technology we disrupted it.

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Your welcome.

What I need is credible evidence with a paper and money trail. I really could careless if the worlds leaders come together once and a while to worship "satan" or who ever. I'm a realist, I'm an athiest so to me its all just make believe anyways.

We all know in this world there is a money trail with anything.

On a side note. One of my fathers long time friends is a member of Masons. What me and a few others noticed, this man ownes his own business and does well. But the lifestyle he lives is not matching up with the money he should be making through his business of home building and construction, and he doesn't borrow any money. It's always cash.
It's not from inheritance, not from any kind of law suit. Also this man does not come across as very intellectual, you know someone who would be apart of the Masons. However he does oversee the construction of many of the areas intellectuals, people of power, the rich, ect, homes.

I'll read up on the Masons as much as I can for the next few months. Then I'll sit down with him and discuss why he is apart of the Masons and maybe show I am interested in joining.

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I understand that sacrificies need to be made but who decides who has to sacrifice what?

Try telling that to %90 of the people in thr world today. For them buying a hybrid or turning off the lights when they leave a room is almost too much of a burden.

I wouldn't call it a burden but a impossibility. A large percentage of our world's population does not have the ability to even feed themselves or their families properly nevermind buying a car or having electricity.
Here's a picture of the world at night. Have a look at Africa and South East Asia and a large part of China. I would say that the people's living there don't really care about turning off a light.

We will most likely have to have population control for now since we cannot sustain an equal level of living with 6.5 billion people.

I think we could if the distribution of wealth was more balanced.

The GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of the poorest 48 nations (i.e. a quarter of the world’s countries) is less than the wealth of the world’s three richest people combined.

A few hundred millionaires now own as much wealth as the world’s poorest 2.5 billion people.

A mere 12 percent of the world’s population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World.

Source

By those statistics, there seems to be a lot of sacrificing going on already.JPH said it well a couple of posts back. Why all the secrecy? Why aren't people being held accountable for actions against humanity? This quote by him sums it up nicely....

Let's be frank here: this NWO is NOT about the betterment of mankind. It's the betterment of an 'Elite' few

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It doesn't matter worth of sh*t if God or Satan are real. It DOES however matter if the people running the world believe that they do. Even the Church of Satan was not built on the premise that the devil existed, but that man should indulge in his temptations, etc.

And like I said, there are many good reference points in the videos. I'm sure you've seen Zeitgeist/Freedom to Fascism and believed many of the points you saw there, well have that same kind of open mind to some of these other things discussed in some of the videos.

Anyway, the whole point of this thread was to discuss the NWO being good, and if you watch the interviews by Dr. Machu Kaku AND Dr. Richard Hoagland, you might start to think that also. All I was saying is that with all these other allegations going around about sinister motives, I couldn't tell if the NWO really IS good or bad.

Originally posted by DarkStar86

The facts are that for humans to continue to survive we will become under one government, one language and one general culture.

(with fingers slightly in cheek) . . .

Well, DarkStar86. We are so delighted that you see things our way.

We are still considering when to schedule the more overt implementations of our program. However, given your eager support of our goals, we thought we'd give you a heads up at this stage.

Shortly after we begin our more overt moves, one of our agents will call at your door with a chip implant for your hand or temple. The temple has certain advantages of making it easier to monitor some of your actions, thoughts and dreams. But either location is quite suitable for basic monitoring and certainly for location restrictions.

Of course, after you are implanted, it would be most unadvisable for you to travel anywhere but work, WalMart and home without prior authorization. We are determined to make society much more orderly.

Some few to several months after you are SLAGGED with the chip, we will begin deducting an additional 20% tax from your bank account. The NWO is very costly.

Also, around then, after most everyone is chipped, we will begin to limit your media consumption to 2-3 TV channels and very limited internet browsing. Any efforts to go beyond that will require that another agent visit your home and install a behavioral control module around your ankle. Should you persist in unauthorized media or other behaviors, a very advanced sort of taser kind of shock will be administered to your ankle rendering you a writhing mass of pained protoplasm on the floor. This, of course, is merely to educate you more rapidly in proper NWO behaviors for all good NWO citizens. I'm sure you'd cheer the necessity of that.

However, we do want you to enjoy your first 8-12 months in the NWO. Because we are honoring all the eager champions of our cause with a first tier graduation-from-this-life award at your local guillotine center. But you needn't be concerned about that. Please avoid showing up early. We will inform you when your time has come--usually about 0300-0400 in the morning so as not to disturb the neighborhood unduly. But we will insure that you have all your affairs in order well before that great day when you are honored by the opportunity to give your all for the NWO and our depopulation efforts.

Of course, there won't be a lot of affairs left to get in order by then. We will have appropriated most all of your so called discretionary income well before then. We can't have world citizens spending finite resources without instructions to do so.

Please be assured that you will be honored by having your name engraved on a marble memorial to all those first 100 million global citizens who first gave their lives in behalf of the NWO and the environment. Of course, there won't be any of your friends or relatives left to visit your name on the memorial because we have decided that your volunteering to support the NWO so early shall be considered quite sufficient to nominate them for an early graduation from this life, too. We're wondering if "HAIL HAIL, THE GANG'S ALL HERE" would be suitable background music.

BTW, No need to let us know where they are, we already know.

In the event that you become mentally deranged and try to flee, cause a disturbance or otherwise obstruct any of the above plans--please be aware that any such actions will call for an immediate public re-education experience.

These are characterized by taking you, in that case, or others of similar rebellious 2nd thoughts--by taking you to a nearby public square with a high stage set in the middle of the park or square. You will be pleased to know that your behavioral call for re-education will be shown live on the web and on at least one of the 3 authorized global channels.

The first action upon leading you up to the stage will be to read the particulars of your misbehaviors. Then we will present the rationale for dealing firmly and vividly with such rebellion. It's really an enormous honor to be amongst the earliest required to show such deference in behalf of globalism and the world ruler.

The local police sargeant will declare that you are guilty as charged and the re-education will begin.

The first step is for you to bow, worship and to kiss the feet and rear of the world ruler--or if he's too busy--those of his local representative.

Next, you will be stripped of all clothing. Then, in the name of unisex homogeneity--as well as a bow to honoring our neutered ET friends--all external gender identifiers will be removed with a somewhat used scalpel--or perhaps a new laser scalpel. Of course, we will waste no anesthesia on such cases.

Then, the military will be authorized to experiment on your back with various new experimental persuasive techniques under development for getting enemies of the State to talk. We're in the process of minitiarizing the reported ray gun that causes extreme pain in the skin. And, we're adding a little feature that causes instant blisters. Some of the more eager and sadistic technicians delight in making folks look like jelly fish in under 30 seconds. Others like to make rude designs in blisters on the backs of their subjects.

Then, if any on the police force are in need of any organs that you are a match for, those organs will be extracted. The more critical organs, last, of course. We can set up a monitor for your viewing pleasure, if you wish. If there is any life left after such procedures, a portable guillotine will be provided in your honor.

As you can see . . . we tend to think of virtually everything.

So, you can take great comfort that your wise decision to support us early is a very good one in behalf of the whole planet and the environment.

At this point, we just wish to thank you enormously for your joining our cause so early. Because you are amongst the earliest of such folks, we have chosen to award you a $1,000 bonus into your account this month to spend on whatever environmental charity most attracts you. Or, if you are inclined toward alcohol, we'd allow you to spend 75% of it on that. Zoned out zombies can be very supportive of the NWO. Particularly those zoning out in their own homes.

And, you'll find soon in the mail a T-shirt with the slogan on the front and back:

I'M JOYED 2 OFFER MY LIFE EARLY 4 THE NWO!

There may be an alternate selection:

JOIN MY
"HEADS 4
THE NWO
GUILLOTINE"
MOVEMENT!

Sincerely,

Chief Tyrannical Goon of the County.

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The problem is for a "good" NWO you would need to have free energy/food and probably interplanetary travel to allow people enough space to live comfortably because all of the current wars and territory disputes are completely based on these issues.

Now the current people pushing this NWO dont have those (I suppose an arguement could be made that these technologys do exist but are supressed, but it really doesnt make a difference either way) and probably realize that if people did have those things, they would no longer be "elite" since everyone could have everything, and so their current plan is to simply kill off the population to a point where their domination is entrenched and keep it their for as long as possible. this is evil in every sense of the word.