John Lear........disinfo agent???

reply to post by uberarcanist


Based on his bio I'm going to speculate that perhaps he does not have a lot of friends in the aviation industry to have admire him.

Originally posted by uberarcanist
So you think maybe he's doing it for attention? What a crazy way to get noticed.

Oh absolutely he is. Crazy? There used to be a gentleman(?) in St. Louis who would dress up as a drum majorette and prance up and down busy streets twirling a baton. To get attention.

Alright, this thread is getting personal now.
I've been reading all these accusations, but the direction
they are taking is starting to get very unsavory.

Don't let that detract from the point that John can't provide crap for proof about any of his outrageous claims.

I changed my mind. John Lear is 100% a disinfo agent. He is just not on their payroll because he is doing it for free. Any normal, common sense having person that stumbles upon John's stuff pretty much disregards any of this UFO stuff from then on....isn't that the point the disinfo guys are trying to make?!?

rotflmao

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Don't let that detract from the point that John can't provide crap for proof about any of his outrageous claims.

How can you not, when the current posts continue to descend into sarcasm, snipes, and the mocking "rofl"? If you don't agree with his claims be civil about it not snide.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Don't let that detract from the point that John can't provide crap for proof about any of his outrageous claims.

I thought he provided quite a bit of visual evidence, hypotheses, documents and eyewitness accounts, to support his theories. I'm not sure how that can be construed to be no proof at all, unless you simply don't accept anything that isn't typed in an officially approved text book?

I am overlooking the blurring photos of the moon with outlined "buildings" and "bucket excavators" as solid evidence. Pardon me.

I mean, did you see the pictures in the moon thread? If that's what it takes to get you going, more power to you. But myself, along with most of society, require a little more than that. And John claims most of this stuff as a manner of FACT. Read his posts.

Shouldn't you guys be upset with John for willfully witholding physical evidence (his claims, NOT mine) of something that would not only prove most of his foolishness to be true, but damn near save the world?

Where's the outrage over that? Do you even know what I'm talking about?

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I'm saying, if he REALLY wants to get back on the radar screen, all he has to do is shoot for another world record! Spewing crazy nonsense is NOT the best way to get noticed.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
I am overlooking the blurring photos of the moon with outlined "buildings" and "bucket excavators" as solid evidence. Pardon me.

I mean, did you see the pictures in the moon thread? If that's what it takes to get you going, more power to you. But myself, along with most of society, require a little more than that. And John claims most of this stuff as a manner of FACT. Read his posts.

Actually, most people in "society" don't even know we are having this conversation. In fact, most of the world doesn't know a thing about NASA or you or John. They can't read, are starving to death or darn near close to it, have little to no education and wouldn't understand a word we are saying. So let's just dispense with the rest of society, spiel. And don't try the "that's not society". Yes, other non-western societies are still societies. Don't gimme no lip son.

Anyway, Zorg and I have similar graphics cards, monitors and graphics programs. We also have similar internet services and operating systems. We can see pretty much the same anomalies. We concluded the problem seems to lie in the hardware, software, and ISP of the viewer. Or they're just running interference for some other reason.

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We concluded the problem seems to lie in the hardware, software, and ISP of the viewer. Or they're just running interference for some other reason.

How convenient, lol. I guess my new Alienware computer is as crappy as my old Dell, lol.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts

How convenient, lol. I guess my new Alienware computer is as crappy as my old Dell, lol.

What's option B?

When I showed a picture of a burst of fire (not smoke, but fire) rising up from the moon, you called it a blurry picture. Would you like to see it again and re-evaluate your initial impression?
Really, this thread isn't about moon anomalies, it's about attempting to
discredit John Lear. So if you wanna discredit moon anomalies, we may have to take it to the moon thread. Although I'm more than willing to see you squirm around trying to prove the images I'm about to present are just blurry artifacts. In fact, I can't wait to do just that. Any time you're ready.

Oh, please. I could use a good laugh. Make sure you post them on the Aliens and UFO forum so the mass populace can also have a whack at your absurd delusions.

John Lear is not a disinfo agent. I would really really hope the government has better disinfo agents then this. He is a person who loves to tell stories just to get attention. Why would anyone believe someone who tells outlandish stories then can never provide any proof they happened? He has zero,none,nada,0 proof of anything he has ever started a thread about. Yet people listen to him... weird. Myself and others make very valid arguments against his cases, and he just ignores them and goes on with the story, ignoring any facts that are inconvienent for him. I sure hope no one pays him to do this. As for the moon pics, the only story he actually backs up with photos... you can see anything in those pictures you want to see. Even the "reactor" doesnt make sense. Why build a reactor that is that bright on the side of the moon we can see? If it really did light up like that, funny thing it only "lights up" when the sun is on it. You think it would be easier to see when that crater is dark during a crescent moon, no it just dissapears... weird. As for other pics... the moon is an entire planet, I am sure it is not 100% craters and dust, odds are there are some weird formations (like on every planet), doesnt make them alien.

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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Oh, please. I could use a good laugh. Make sure you post them on the Aliens and UFO forum so the mass populace can also have a whack at your absurd delusions.

Oh cool. I'll send you a U2U of the links to the images. I await with bated breath, your astounding conclusions (which will be "blurry artifact", ad nauseum). It's a wonder NASA was able to discern a thing about the moon and where to land on it, since every pic they have is a blurry artifact.

Originally posted by MrPenny

Oh absolutely he is. Crazy? There used to be a gentleman(?) in St. Louis who would dress up as a drum majorette and prance up and down busy streets twirling a baton. To get attention.

I never wore the drum majorette costume or pranced up and down the streets but I got pretty good at twirling my sisters baton.

Now I did wear a costume in my ballet class. Does that count?

If these images were on Living moon, i am not impressed by any of them. I've been through that website, nothing out of the ordinary there. The best proof that there is a moon base is that some photos are classified. That I'll buy, not these blown up pixilated photos of rocks.

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Actually I was referring to Baton Bob. Truly a character. In a world full of characters he stood out.

Ah ha!! Not so nutty after all.....look at all of those girls.....

Originally posted by CTS32
The best proof that there is a moon base is that some photos are classified.

Whee, somebody with read-between-the-lines-ability.
obviously, they have really good, close up, detailed images of the moon for the purposes of landing and scouting, that aren't released to the general public because they must contain senstive and heavily classified data.

they aren't released because the info is top secret. the real argument stems from what the cause of its top secret rating would be. is it aliens? it is human habitation and mining, and so on.

ah, tis good to talk to someone who uses logic to reason out the reality of it, which is just screamingly obvious if you think about it for a few seconds.

[edit on 4-10-2007 by undo]

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But the point of a disinfo agent is *NOT* to get people to listen, it's to get people to stop taking something seriously. A good disinfo agent will get people to think "Oh boy, there's those UFO nuts again".