This is an obvious Missile!!!! watch!

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by 16kram

 

How deep of an understanding are you creating to such small amounts of words? I think you are adding weight to the intended meaning of peoples replies. I do not fully believe that they were missiles, just like I don't fully believe they were passenger filled commercial jetliners. Too much evidence calls for suspect intentions. Are you not able to hold up all the curious points of reference on 9/11 to give people the benifit of the doubt on their inquiries?

Whatever happened to "there is no such thing as a stupid question?"



Why are you so adament? Can't you see all the curious aspects of 9/11? Do you disregard all of them, or just this aspect alone? Because if you yourself had suspicians, it would seem you would be more sympathetic to other people who were trying to pull themselves from the veil of ignorance.

Just an fyi.

AAC

So If you dont believe they had passengers in them, then the question really is, where are all the dead passengers? Did the Government take them to a hanger and mass execute them so they wouldnt talk? Too much evidence calls for suspect intentions?? Too much evidence stands that what happened, is exactly what happened. People seem to dismiss the "MISSING BODIES" too readily. If it was a conspiracy, where are the Missing Passengers in those "FAKE" planes. Made up? If so, then all the grieving family members are made up as well, or possibly Alien Drones doing the bidding of the mothership.



Edited due to post looking screwy

[edit on 14-9-2007 by arcnaver]

Originally posted by thedman

The only person disinformed is you! You ask how many saw it or have
first hand knowledge of the plane hitting the building. Some 50 people
in the upper floor of my building watched the second plane slam into
the South Tower. My boss came downstairs to our office and told us
what had happened. Went upstairs to watch the towers burn and collapse
Is that good enough for you ????

Thanks for the post thedman. If I counted correctly you are giving us third hand information. At the very best its second hand information.

In any case its unlikely that few, if any, where standing at a window, looking outside, at the exact time, the projected holograph came towards the building.

But even if they were, its extremely unlikely that any would be able to relate in detail what actually happened in that 5 seconds between the time they saw the holograph and the time the explosion went off.

But thanks for your post.

reply to post by johnlear


Hello John,

Forgive me if you have covered this before but a few questions.

Where would the hologram been projected from?
Wouldn't someone have noticed the "projector"?
Are these holograms in 3D thus giving perpective depending from viewpoint?
What was your original source about the hologram? (I think you answered this earlier in the thread but without re-reading the whole thread)
Why hasn't this technology been used before or since, even on a much less grander scale?

Originally posted by johnlear
In any case its unlikely that few, if any, where standing at a window, looking outside, at the exact time, the projected holograph came towards the building.

But even if they were, its extremely unlikely that any would be able to relate in detail what actually happened in that 5 seconds between the time they saw the holograph and the time the explosion went off.

Hang on, if it's a missile, surely some people would have seen it being launched, even if it was far away. The track it would have made would need to be disguised all the way from launch, so why is there no eyewitnesses of it? Aren't cruise missiles launched with something other than a jet engine which would be obvious exhaust?

And if it's a hologram, surely that would need massive power to project a 47 metre or so wide object? Not to mention it would surely be on the outside of the missile, so surely it would begin to fail at the moment of impact, so the tail of the 'plane' would disappear?

Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi




Looks like a plane, and pretty real, to me.

There'd be no point in a missile. A missile would do about the same damage as an aircraft that size. And if the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled demolition, which I personally believe they were, then there'd be no point in using any holographic imagery or missiles.

Mod Edit: Image Hotlinking – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 12/9/2007 by Mirthful Me]

[edit on 9/12/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Hmmm, I was always taught, that if it looked like a duck, quacked like a duck, and smelt like a duck.....then it must be a .................AIRPLANE!!!!!

Yes, it does look like a missile. The .5 of the still could have been altered. It's blurry near the middle with part off to the side of "missile", the wings make have been removed from the plane image. Or it being the plane on it's side.

Notice the fact that what ever it may be is going soo fast that the one still doesn't help the clarity.

However, are they any other vids where it appears like this for further proof? How do we explain the vids were it's a plane then?

[edit on 14-9-2007 by dreamingawake]

Originally posted by dreamingawake
However, are they any other vids where it appears like this for further proof?

Here's a video from that same angle that shows a plane.

Love you John. Sorry I didn't get back on until now to thank you for your reply to my post. You have made sense of some things that were bothering me. I know a B25 wouldn't cause as much damage but I also know in my gut that the wrong people have been blamed for 911. My Dad gave me some advice about what to believe and what not to believe years ago. He also taught me about how evidence should be examined.I initially thought, when I was watching television that the plane or whatever had hit the second tower was explosive in nature. I believe that all this is just part of something larger which you have previously hinted at concerning the nature of the soul. I believe it started a long time ago and has continued through history including such wonderful escapades as the Crusades. The jihad that was started then never technically ended. I am partial to your theory as I believe holograms are a lot more feasible than people believe. There has been some interesting work done involving holograms for virtual reality video games. That idea did not start with nStarTrek. I rembered the B25 crash and I was pretty sure they couldn't have caused that much damage using even a much larger fuel laden plane. Thank you.

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


Sure thing Sherlock. You came to this conclusion thanks to a bad quality video that has been uploaded to break.com, thus decreasing the quality of the video even further, while disregarding a plethora of high quality video and pictures of the event. Uh huh... sure.

Originally posted by arcnaver

So If you dont believe they had passengers in them, then the question really is, where are all the dead passengers? Did the Government take them to a hanger and mass execute them so they wouldnt talk? Too much evidence calls for suspect intentions?? Too much evidence stands that what happened, is exactly what happened. People seem to dismiss the "MISSING BODIES" too readily. If it was a conspiracy, where are the Missing Passengers in those "FAKE" planes. Made up? If so, then all the grieving family members are made up as well, or possibly Alien Drones doing the bidding of the mothership.

Thanks for the post arcnver. Many have the same thought process as you including my wife. They don't want to discuss 'conspiracy' until you can tell them where the passengers are. They simply cannot believe that the missing passengers would have been taken out an shot. Mind you, these are the same people that, in my opinion, used a Directed Energy Weapon (DEW) from a secret space station to murder 3000 Americans as a pretext to going over to Afghanistan and take over the poppie business and then over to Iraq to steal their oil. And these people wouldn't shoot the missing passengers? You gotta be kidding me.

The people who planned and executed 911 have to be the most ruthless, treasonous, murderous individuals that ever set foot on the planet earth.

You want to know what happened to the passengers? They routed them all into Flight 93, and shot them down, and made a heroic story about it to honor them.

It just so happens that Flight 11, Flight 175, and Flight 77 were all "under booked" just enough so that they can all fit inside Flight 93, and be shot down.

Do the math, you will see that if you add all the passengers up, there are just enough to fit inside a 757-222.



[edit on 14-9-2007 by IWatchYou]

Could someone please analyze this part of the OP's video -- the part that starts at 7:06?
Here's the link to that video.
break.com...

I've isolated the first 12 frames starting from 7:06. Below are those images.


If you notice in frame #3, the plane seems to disappear. So I embossed it to see if it would show up that way but it's completely gone! See #4.

Then in #5, you can vaguely see a whitish cloud; but only vaguely.
Well, I could continue but if someone could look over this segment of that video and perhaps try to view it frame by frame -- and then tell me if you think it's CGI or if you think it's real. Once again, it starts at 7:06. It's very intrigueing.

reply to post by Palasheea


You can see it in #3. You can barely see it, but it's there. You can't make out a plane, but there's definitely a dark spot where the plane is if you follow it from the visible part all the way to the crash.








The first photo, I colored red the area that the plane is in the second photo.

Like I said, it's hard to point it out if you just look at that photo, but if you watch the sequence, and follow it, you'll be able to tell that's it.

I think that video is poor quality and the plane is at a point where the building's shadow is blending in with the dark gray and blue of the plane. Those two aspects give you a kind of hard to see plane.

...cut


[edit on 15-9-2007 by AnOldFriend]

Originally posted by AnOldFriend
This video is of the very first airplane to hit the WTC's NOT the second airplane which is the one that everybodyelse captured.

From the OP:

"Okay, this video needs to be paused EXACTLY at 29.5 seconds! It may take a couple tries but please do not analyze until you reach this point.

Things to consider once at 29.5 SECONDS"

We're talking about the second plane which is at 29.5 seconds.

Oh whoops my bad those two clips are put together so close I thought they were the same video... I then wathched it again and noticed that the part this thread is talking about already has the first one up in smoke. Now I feel stupid.

OMG!
Stopped it at 29 and a tad bit more and I'm definitely seeing a missile!!!

I nearly fell off my chair when I saw it!
will try to isolate this and post it here.
It came in like a lightning flash!!
But it's DEFINITELY THERE!!

I'm still trying to capture the quarter-frame between the second and third image in this sequence... not sure if I can get that but it's the one that comes just before it's going into the building.



[edit on 15-9-2007 by Palasheea]

What I can't believe is how people see this long ass missile that appears to be heading for (close to) the center of the South Tower, but then they don't bother explaining how a diagonal impact is made, on the corner of the South Tower, that is by far more wide than the "missile".

Come on people. Can't pick and choose.

[edit on 9/15/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Here's the semi-quarter part of frame 29 -- it goes between the second and third images I have in my last post here.
Am putting them altogether on one layout in a minute.