911 protest on FOX NEWS- Geraldo Rivera

Originally posted by CaptainObvious
He can hold all the fundraisers he wants. He has in the past and continues to say that the FDNY was involved.

Please post a link to any actual evidence that you have to support this, your link provides nothing that proves this statement.

Did you go to his website?

Yes. I went to the article you linked to, which supports none of the claims you've made.

Did you read what he wrote?

Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives

Once again, this is just an article that talks about what Larry Silverstein said, not Alex Jones.

Originally posted by jsobecky


And for those of you that are upset with GR calling the demonstrators names, may I suggest you go through some of the threads on ATS and see how many names Cheney, Chertoff, Colter, Meirs, Bush, etc., have been called by this very community. Then ask yourself if you are as guilty as you say GR is.

jso,

We're not reporters with a mic in our hand proclaiming that we're bringing "fair and balanced" news while calling those names, ok? And if I thought you couldn't grasp the difference between a bunch of private citizens smacking their keyboards on a discussion board and cable news reporter using his mic to air extreme bias, I would have just ignored the silly comparison. But I'm holding out hope you didn't really think it through first.

As for myself I find it hilarious that the lines in this kind of debate are always drawn before discourse has a chance to take place.

I could make you a list of people on ATS who would take the right-wing viewpoint or the left in any given argument. Then, I could make you a second list of which issues the two would argue for or against.

Pick a few from column A, a few from column B, throw in a little bit of calling the other side ignorant, and you've got yourself an Internet debate!

fricking think for yourselves

why are you all arguing for 9/11 truth or 9/11 fact??

there are tons of threads for doing this post your comments there.

The more important topic that a newscaster on national television just made a sweeping homophobic comment about a group of people (doesn't matter who) is what you should be focusing on

He should be sacked straight away because presenters of the news should have unbiased comments and views when reporting any event.

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Fox News was set up to be biased. That's why people aren't that upset about Geraldo, though they should be. Geraldo has always been a second-rate journalist. He's a sleazy product of the '80s, when it was OK to be biased against gays. He thinks it's macho. He probably still has a Members Only jacket.

Fox News is for conservative people with conservative agendas. I listen to conservative radio a lot (just for kicks because I don't have a TV yet, and the conservative ranting is very amusing). They love to judge people and get on their high horse. I actually listen to Fox News radio, and there is no fair and balanced reporting, and I laugh everytime I hear the announcer subtly slip in the motto "Fair and balanced" after saying "Fox News". It's almost freaking subliminal. They have no respect for the intelligence of their audience. In fact, I think that they go out of their way to be biased, not for the conservatives, but for people like me, who like shock radio and like to hear people gripe about stupid stuff.

Fox News radio is like shock radio with no profanity or porn.

@ CaptainObvious

I have to point out that Alex Jones believing the FDNY is responsible for some of the events of 9/11 does not necessarily mean that he believes that ordinary firefighters were involved! Just that the people in charge at the highest level may have been "in on it".

Just like I'm sure he doesn't believe that all the soldiers soldiers serving in Iraq were responsible for faking evidence of WMD...

Also, Geraldo's comments are an absolute disgrace. It doesn't matter what the demonstrators were protesting, making comments like that about any group (apart from actual poorly dressed homosexuals with a proven liking for illicit bathroom frolics) on national television should be a sackable offence.

Another controversy arose in early 2003, while Rivera was embedded with U.S. military personnel in Iraq. During a Fox News broadcast, Rivera began to disclose an upcoming operation, even going so far as to draw a map in the sand for his audience. The military immediately issued a firm denouncement of his actions, saying it put the operation at risk, and nearly expelled Rivera from Iraq. Two days later, he announced that he would be reporting on the Iraq conflict from Kuwait

I don't know if the 11 years of daytime talk show ilk addled the mans brains, or what, but it strikes me strongly that the poor sap is just that--a poor, poor, addled fool.

To anti 9/11 truth thread invaders.

Duh.

FOX NEWS put GR in font of 9/11 truth signs and continued his smut talk.

NYC has smut on giant billboards, they protest that too.

The soapbox on the corner is a New York staple.. get used to it.

AJ had no need for the megaphone... he has bad advisers, ..learn how
to protest, good consul helps in the big city.

Here its how is going down, so prepare your forces:

9/11 families are suing the airlines. If TV fakery is involved,
the TV stations will have to pay.

Excuses: People wanted to know what planes were in the air so we
gave the information we had, sorry you lied, pay up.
TV needed airliner going into WTC so we used what we had, sorry,
you faked it like the lines in football broadcasts, pay up.

Whats left but explosions to discover.

Oh say it ain't true.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Oh yes, he's very moral. Just ask his previous wives and children.

Yes, and speaking of morals... I just love the caliber of these so called truthers. As described by one of the people who was there and who posted here applauding the stunts pulled that caused the arrest of the alleged ring leader, Mr Jones, they marched at a specific time ensuring an encounter with relatives and family of the victims of 9/11 who had gathered.

Very decent people, very well intentioned... To upset and harass people still in mourning, very moral.



This is a very interesting thread, very interesting indeed as it really shows how vitriolic and venomous the proponents of this conspiracy are.

What bothers me about all of this is that none of the other news outlets reported about this. Where's CNN and MSNBC? Going to their websites you would think it was a slow news day.

The public should know that protesters in NYC caused this major disruption, so that people are aware of the gravity of the situation we are currently in.

Why the cover up? It makes me think there IS a secret agenda.

I'm not a neocon but then again, in your world, anyone who disagrees with you is a neocon. Such narrow mindedness is why most laugh at you.

Yep- your brain washing is complete welcome home! keep moving with your flock bahahah




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Deny ignorance? This kind of attitude embodies it.

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wow i cant believe this happened, i swear one day if i ever get a chance i will punish the entire fox news crew, they are possibly the most racist and ignorant news station in the world.

and the funny thing is the protesters now the truth, but now when an average American (who doesn't no crap) see's this they are going to say wow those 9.11 protesters or protesters in general are crazy, ever increasing their ignorance and stupidity.

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can we quit it with the catch phrases and the partisan bull# for long enough to think about what other people might be trying to say?

America is in danger. The America that Conservatives propound so tenaciously to love. The Constitution is being flagrantly ignored, and the right wing cheers when that "god-damn piece of paper" is put aside in favor of policies they support- i.e. the weakening of Democratic power, or of the growing voices of dissent in America.

And the left wing is every bit as bad. Alex Jones is a sensationalist whose half-sane ranting is a real detriment to people that want actual change and accountability in our government.

NEITHER PARTY is innocent, and NONE OF YOU who support solely one or the other is ever going to help this nation move toward a solution for the very real social and geopolitical problems it is facing today.

POLITICS IN AMERICA TODAY IS FAKER THAN PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING, AND THE CRAP THAT PASSES FOR DEBATE ON THE INTERNET IS NOTHING MORE THAN ROOTING FOR YOUR FAVORITE TEAM OF LIARS AND CHARLATANS.

LOOK AT THE ISSUES, AND WORK TOWARD SOLVING THEM. DO NOT WASTE ANY MORE TIME INSULTING ONE ANOTHER OR SPOUTING OFF ABOUT "DENYING IGNORANCE."

AMERICA IS IN TROUBLE. WAKE UP. TURN OFF THE TELEVISION. WORK TO CHANGE IT OR BEFORE LONG NONE OF US WILL EVER BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT AGAIN.

Really...

Originally posted by ATSGUY
wow i cant believe this happened, i swear one day if i ever get a chance i will punish the entire fox news crew, they are possibly the most racist and ignorant news station in the world.

What would you do? Put them in some kind of "Breakfast Club" style detention? Neil Cavuto could be the geek, Geraldo could be the thug, Bill O'Reilly could be the jock, Laurie Dhue could be the princess, and Greta could be the goth chick... Oh, the lulz...

Seriously... "Punish?"

Fox News and Geraldo Rivera are a prime example of how poor American News Networks truly are. The MSM is only interested in promoting thier own agendas and don't care about anything else. Geraldo has no right to say the things he did, and does need to issue an apology. Put it in context, would he have said those same things if it was people protesting against the war? I'm pretty positive it was because of the message that he resorted to such childish name calling.

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From all that I know and I see around me, I think it's too late. America WILL change. What is important is how we make the transition, whether we will make a hard or soft landing.

There are just too many people in the world for us to justify our country having all that we have, while 90% of the world "has not." A balance is under way. I just don't want to see anyone get hurt.

I just know too much about how the economy works and where the money is going to not know that there will be change. What we are seeing now is actually a struggle on both sides to maintain their own status quo.

The neo cons and the fundamental islamists are fighting the inevitable, and we are caught in the middle.

The worst thing about this situation is that Fox News was talking about bathroom gay sex for a half hour. How important and classy. It's DISGUSTING !!!! WE were shouting behind those Fox cameras about the most important topic in the media that needs more attention than low life politicians and their drug induced sexual primal urges. At one point Geraldo interviewed some idiot with big breasts who was told to cover up her legs because her skirt was too short and she wanted to sue an airline or some bull. Meanwhile, the important voices were tuned out by these coke head, blood drinking perverts.

Jones and the so called " Truthers " have done nothing but turned into
a bunch of media whores . Im entitled to my opinion and i say get a life and get a new hobby .

Ooh, so Geraldo shakes his fist and wishes he could "go through" the group of protesters. Man, what a class act. What a tough guy.

How many brain cells do you think Rivera has? I'll go crazy and hazard a guess: it probably doesn't run into the double figures.