Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

Originally posted by deltaboy
Whose going to take his word when he keeps wearing military fatiques and showing his AK like hes a tough guy and crap eh?

I would have thought this would appeal to quite a few Americans

Aren't guns and combat dress your own personal preference DB?

Bin Laden has said that he had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks before, I believe it was even in video form.

Also the bit about Chomsky I find odd. Chomsky isn't exactly a socialist but he swings to that side. Bin Laden's politics are.... well I'm not exactly sure but they seem to be not aligned with the theory of socialism.

I don't think he has had anything to do with much hostility against this country, not for a long long time.


As far as I know he rallied his people to fight against the russian invaders back in the day, he won, and became a hero. He seems like the logical fall guy though.

As a side note, Chomsky has said he does not believe that American was behind 9/11. I wonder if this has to do with how his voice has weight, maybe he was paid off or otherwise compensated/threatened.

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Originally posted by RogerT

Aren't guns and combat dress your own personal preference DB?

I don't dress and armed myself and threaten and killing others, then changing my mind and asking them to convert.

Originally posted by agent violet
Amongst other things, he has a great deal of bravery and remarkable leadership. In my opinion he also posesses a vast amount of loyalty to his followers, and I view him as being highly honorable.

And to think that you're not kidding makes it 100x funnier. Whoever he is, be it a CiA Operative, or a cave dweller with delusions of grandeur, if he[s a figment of the Nwo's imagination, whatever, for you to say this i would think makes you ...what do we call them now??? A terrorist???

I think Bush is honorable too. The best president we've had since the beginning of our history. I think the NWO will bring us great things-
Isnt life grand?
Things are just coming together and they keep getting bettter and better.
/

Originally posted by agent violet
Amongst other things, he has a great deal of bravery and remarkable leadership. In my opinion he also posesses a vast amount of loyalty to his followers, and I view him as being highly honorable.

Why doesn't she get a warning for posting that garbage while the sane poster a few pages back does?


[edit on 7/9/2007 by enjoies05]

Since when did sharing your opinion in a polite and respectful manner warrant a warning?

Originally posted by Implosion
Since when did sharing your opinion in a polite and respectful manner warrant a warning?

September 11, 2001, I guess

The point about needing to give your enemy a chance to convert is the most important point, I think. Does he start and end every video/message like that?

Originally posted by enjoies05

Originally posted by agent violet
Amongst other things, he has a great deal of bravery and remarkable leadership. In my opinion he also posesses a vast amount of loyalty to his followers, and I view him as being highly honorable.

Why doesn't she get a warning for posting that garbage while the sane poster a few pages back does?

[edit on 7/9/2007 by enjoies05]

Because what one might think is "garbage" isn't against the T&C. Attacking another member after staff admonition is. Can you see the difference?

I HOPE so.

Well, i suppose that's right. Violet has stated what she feels- and i have stated that our current president is nothing but a piece of garbage who deserves to, shall we say, be put out of office immediatly.

I can see your point, Intrepid . In any case, Osama doesnt even exist, so let Violet dream her dreams of violet, fairies and all good things.

Bush DOES exist. Darn it.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by dgtempe]

[edit on 7-9-2007 by dgtempe]

Originally posted by dgtempe

Things are just coming together and they keep getting bettter and better.
/

You left out the last bit, "we know, trust us."


I though old OBL made a lot of sense in his video. Especially his references to financial corruption and slavery and the weakness of the democratic system. I don't agree that converting to Islam is the answer however, mass interest in Islam is only corrupting that religion too. Sprituality is a personal thing and government has no case for interfering in a persons spiritual life.

I doubt that OBL is guilty of much that has been attributed to him and Al-Quaeda, it is just to convenient and screams SCAPEGOAT. Certainly he is involved in a campaign against the west based on Islamic revolution which, as dangerous as it is made to seem, is no real threat to our society and with the correct handling it doesn't have to be.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by JimmyBlonde]

Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by agent violet
Amongst other things, he has a great deal of bravery and remarkable leadership. In my opinion he also posesses a vast amount of loyalty to his followers, and I view him as being highly honorable.

What? You consider it honorable to ill 3,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE?

I wonder if you will feel that way when this murdering piece of waste murders someone close to you? Will you still give him the despicable verbal tongue bath you gave him today?

It is hard to describe how little respect I have for anyone who would write what you have written.

Now replace "Bin Laden" with "George Bush" and "3000" with "close to a million". Still 30% of Americans think "he da man".
Lets not forget that everything has been done to keep Bin Laden running free, from stopping investigations and captures to stopping assassinations.
Oh and lets not forget the fact that there is no evidence linking him to 9/11, or the fact that he denied his connections to it. Unless you rather believe the fake Bin Laden who admitted.
And last but not least the, most likely, fact that the whole attack was a false flag anyway.

This is becoming as transparent as a nigerian spam mail.

Originally posted by JimmyBlonde


I doubt that OBL is guilty of much that has been attributed to him and Al-Quaeda, it is just to convenient and screams SCAPEGOAT. Certainly he is involved in a campaign against the west based on Islamic revolution which, as dangerous as it is made to seem, is no real threat to our society and with the correct handling it doesn't have to be.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by JimmyBlonde]

Yeah, be is involved in a campaign against the west but is no real threat to our society? So you agree he is engaged in a war against us and yet he is no threat?

The sooner we rid this world of him and his murderous sub human thugs, the better. I can't wait for the day.

reply to post by Night Watchman


and all those thousends of people that did no harm to you
that were murderd by us forces,

many would consider those people honrable


reply to post by pieman


nice article
i see two faces to him
one that is fighting for those people that have been wronged another which is a fanatic who will do anything to push his agenda.

the article just shows there are many motives for his strike on the US (if he was really behind it)


reply to post by Sys_Config


Quran states that a muslim can only strike at someone if they have attacked them or if they are being opressed by them.

it states that a muslim cant kill anyone that has done no harm, by doing so it will be like they have killed all of man.

if you want i can PM you a translation with all the meanings to give you a better understanding.




reply to post by deltaboy


most americans on here just like to talk about bombing the fudge out of other countries and nuking islamic sites.

(not saying its you, since i havent seen a post by you saying nuke mecca yet)

Originally posted by enjoies05

Why doesn't she get a warning for posting that garbage while the sane poster a few pages back does?

i expected more from you mate
everyone has a right to their opinion.
theres a diffrence between showing an opinion and insulting others.

edit: why do i always get the song shaddys back by emenem when i hear news of Bin ladin in my head.

would make a great Rap

Ladins back
back again
look whos , look whos back
and so forth.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by bodrul]

I find it incredibly frustrating that we 'Americans' live in a time where one of our own can see Osama Bin Laden as hero. The cynical views so many of us share in regard to the current President and administration, along with conspiracy theories which include the US attacks of 9/11/2001 being an 'inside job' therefore Osama Bin Laden must be innocent... etc. But a HERO? ... A Hero?

As insulting as I may personally find these things, I would stand and fight for the rights of those who have and express these opinions and theories.

Freedom liberates all, and silences no one.

Originally posted by bodrul

and all those thousends of people that did no harm to you
that were murderd by us forces,

many would consider those people honrable

[edit on 7-9-2007 by bodrul]

This thread concerns OBL. Heis a cowardly (...). Please try to stay on topic.

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reply to post by UM_Gazz


seeing the events that led to 9/11
it does have alot to talk about, where were the f-16s normaly they would have a couple shadow planes if anything went wrong

and other events that makes people wounder what really happend.

also its her/his (see why i want a gender thing in the profile) opinion and like it or not you cant change that regardless of the urge that most people are getting to blurt out their rage over the comments.

the only thing i see is people looking at it from one side.
Bin ladin is public enemy 1 in the US
but to others a hero (ones mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter)

on on the larger scale due to this event how many muslims have paid with their lives for the deaths of 3000 americans?
in afganistan and Iraq since the Iraq invasion also used the 9/11 as a boost with WMDs.

reply to post by Night Watchman


hows about you stick to the topic
i am going through this topic replying to what i can.
so read through or click what i was replying to.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by bodrul]

Originally posted by bodrul



hows about you stick to the topic

i am going through this topic replying to what i can.
so read through or click what i was replying to.

So if I understand you correctly then you feel bin laden was justified in killing 3000 people? Is that what you are saying? And what was that justification exactly?

Originally posted by Night Watchman
So if I understand you correctly then you feel bin laden was justified in killing 3000 people? Is that what you are saying? And what was that justification exactly?

i didnt say that, hence why i said read the topic fully and read what i was replying to.

1. Bin ladin killed cuvilians, unarmed and those who did no harm to him or other muslims. hence why i used the term fanatic.

feel free to point out in the topic or anywhere else where i ever justifed
murder.

so i repeat re-read the topic and see my replys and what they are replyed to
to get the full picture

edit: just a note i wont be repeating my self since i got work in the morning
so i dont have the time to repeat everything i say.

[edit on 7-9-2007 by bodrul]

Originally posted by Sky watcher
reply to post by agent violet

 

I knew it, You need to move out of the U.S.A. if you feel that way. I could tell you how I really feel about you but it would get me banned. You have been outed!!!

Please remember we live in the USA and have freedom of speech.
This coming from the Jewish guy who hopes to go to Law School. Her opinons are no worse than people bashing Clinton, Bush, the War in Iraq, Global Warming, Christianity, Islam, Israel, Nazis, China, Russia, and whatever else people hate or support.

I may not agree with what some people say but I would defend their right to say it. I defended that right in Iraq and Afghanistan.

On topic though, It looks like OBL has gotten much worse looking and I think the dye was an attempt to mask that.

Originally posted by Night Watchman
This thread concerns OBL. Heis a cowardly *****. Please try to stay on topic.

is that your entire contribution?

what exactly makes him cowardly? he might be a lot of things but i'ld shy away from calling him a coward. or any other ''terrorist''. they're fighting for what they believe in, weather or not you agree with it, you should at least acknowledge it.

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