At least 22 British SDI engineers dead by mysterious Suicides

Originally posted by wigit
I've a wee theory. Kind of daft but it's this. They killed themselves in order to "join up" and work on the "other side"?

That is very much like the kind of stories found in the Twilight Zone and similar television series.

However, in order to "join up" on the Other Side, they would first have to evolve spiritually for a period of years in order to be able to Ascend to a point in The Light whereby they would have enough energy in order to truly make a difference - in manifesting an adequate telekinetic defense.

Not at all easy to do, which is why no one has done it successfully and extensively thus far.

Actually having worked a substantial amount of time in the defense industry it was news to me that Britian wa even involved in SDI at all. I thought that was primarily a US project.

Originally posted by 11 11
When you know The Secret of the Universe, you would want to kill yourself too.

When you find out death doesn't exist, and there is a lucid dream like afterlife.. then you certainly wouldn't want to stay on this Earth where everyone has to physically manifest things, instead of mentally manifest things like a lucid dream.

I would love to hear more on your theory. Sounds... too good to be true. No sarcasm intended, please tell me more, even if in pm if necessary.

Originally posted by BlackProjects
This is certainly an interesting topic..I have a couple theories on this..
1) This engineers were privy to information(possibly about ETs/UFOs) that made them a risk..

2) The information they had (see 1 above) drove them to this..

3) These weopon systems are a threat to ET...they somehow caused the suicides..

What do you think?

IMHO it is laughable for humans to think we could develop anything to combat alien technology. If there are UFOs and aliens they obviously are FAR advanced pasted anything we can comprehend. Its just ridiculous to think they can design these ships that can do unbelievable things, fly all this way (maybe even between dimensions) and get killed by a human race that still cant easily get a man on the moon.

Originally posted by BlackProjects
Actually having worked a substantial amount of time in the defense industry it was news to me that Britian wa even involved in SDI at all. I thought that was primarily a US project.

They are allies, that's the reason.

numerous replies have focused on the idea that :

" no one commits suicide like that "

ok , some of you blame " the evil government " and accept without hesitation the premise that it and its agents have the power to " suicide " people at will - and fabricate all the evidences required

but why would they - if it is a cover up ?

i am struggling to see the MMO [ means , motive , oportunity ] for these " suiciding " assasinations - you are quick to ascribe means , but motive ???

what is the motive ?

now my take on this :

suicide is the cowards way out , if that is so what were they ' running ' from ?

its just my humble opinion - but i believe that if there is anything sinister behind this case - the majority of you have put the cart before the horse - and are looking at it from the totally wrong angle

instead - just accept that it was suicide - spectacular suicide designed to draw attention to thier death

what wre they so desperate to divorce them selves from that suicide was thier only escape ?

Originally posted by Paul_Richard

.. they would first have to evolve spiritually for a period of years in order to be able to Ascend to a point in The Light whereby they would have enough energy in order to truly make a difference - in manifesting an adequate telekinetic defense.

Not at all easy to do, which is why no one has done it successfully and extensively thus far.

How do you know all this? I'm genuinely interested. Are there specific rules of what can and can't be done?I think IF it could be done there's no reason why they might not be employed for their individual expertise regardless of how evolved they are spiritually. Mightn't there be a technology involved in the transition of one state to the other? I'm not saying I believe what I've suggested but I enjoy the speculation.

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The horror of the technology that will be unleashed as a weopon of torture and mind control against civilization - resulting in the swift consolidation of power by unseen dark forces bent on world domination and the return of the reptilian empire. Que maniacal laughter. Just a guess, I mean this is ATS!

Seriously, shame for their role in a black ops project gone horribly wrong? Fear of the future based on certain information they are privy to? Is it just an exercise to see how well the mind control actually works?

Hi Wigit,

Originally posted by wigit
How do you know all this? I'm genuinely interested. Are there specific rules of what can and can't be done? I think IF it could be done there's no reason why they might not be employed for their individual expertise regardless of how evolved they are spiritually. Mightn't there be a technology involved in the transition of one state to the other? I'm not saying I believe what I've suggested but I enjoy the speculation.

When it comes to accessing and utilizing The Light when free of matter, individual expertise boils down to being highly evolved. In this instance, being an innovative engineer for SDI R&D is irrelevant.

Only highly evolved souls, rarefied actually, can, once they leave the flesh, Ascend into The Light to a point whereby they can manifest telekinesis directly and individually - without being part of a discarnate community or Group Entity. That is when the rarefied soul actualizes in energy as a Co-Creator.

Are there rules?

Of course.

Is it hard to accomplish?

Extremely. No one has done it for billions of years but there are those who are close to doing so.

How do I know?

Because those who monitor the situation the most accurately are the discarnate Saints and they and I have had many discussions on this and related subjects over the years.

Here are some applicable quotes from an NDE research site that corroborate some of what I stated here:

The choices we make in life matters deeply.

Life is a golden opportunity to live a spiritual life in a world of darkness.

Life is very important because how we have lived our life largely determines how far we can go into the light.

Source

There is of course much more to it than just making the right choices. It requires advanced spiritual training over a period of many years. Many are pursuing that right now.

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I'm sorry...but I don't understand any of what you just tried to explain. What does that have to do with these dead scientists? No disrespect intended. I just don't see the connection.

Why don't we just make a list of their names.
make a folder on desktop for each, with a notepad file inside
then google, or another search engine preferrably(the more I learn the less I like about them), each name to see what they may have posted on the internet throughout the years.
We can see if they were developing any ideas that may have been "counter productive" to the powers that be, and also note any strange postings that may have been indicative of abnormal thought processes.
with that many names..we should be able to get some interesting hits on at least a couple of them

SyS

Originally posted by Sys_Config
Why don't we just make a list of their names.
make a folder on desktop for each, with a notepad file inside
then google, or another search engine preferrably(the more I learn the less I like about them), each name to see what they may have posted on the internet throughout the years.
We can see if they were developing any ideas that may have been "counter productive" to the powers that be, and also note any strange postings that may have been indicative of abnormal thought processes.
with that many names..we should be able to get some interesting hits on at least a couple of them

SyS

This is a great idea. Does anyone have the names?

I've also noticed this same situation happpened in the Free Energy arena from what I've heard.

Here is a website of all scientists who have died over the years mysteriously or murdered:

rense.com...



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In order to prevent duplication and not make it a daunting task..we can each agree to take 3 people ..research and post back when done..or all at once by friday..we all work so lets make this as covenient and enjoyable as possible. I saw the Rense list..It was very thought provoking..This reminded me also of that chap the Unibomber who went around killing hi tech scientists he thought were endangering mankind or something..he is in jail now..

I will take the first three on the list if you like unless someone has already done the research and can post that..

Sys

Originally posted by kosmicjack
I'm sorry...but I don't understand any of what you just tried to explain. What does that have to do with these dead scientists? No disrespect intended. I just don't see the connection.

None taken.

I was just responding to an inquiry made by wigit regarding a related motivational issue of why they might have committed suicide, and why they likely didn't do so because of spiritual reasons.

Having read this, I feel one single idiot destroys the cedibility of the whole message board. Regarding responses stating opinions on the Strategic Defence Initiative deaths, there are two fools - one who claims that he didn't see America's General Electric Company taking over Britain's Marconi plants, to render Marconi GEC-Marconi, which happened in 1974 according to one Marconi employee I'm in touch with personally, in all the time he worked in defence, and the other guy who thinks all the scientists who died mysteriously wanted to ascend spiritually....that just makes me want to leave this whole thing.
This is one of the problems - how many people can tell "Fool One" all about the takeover of Marconi by General Electric, and the unpleasantness in the atmosphere from precisely that moment on - I've talked with such a large number of people about that who are or were Marconi employees about the unpleasant miasma inside Marconi plants since the American takeover, but we would happen to have some prick on this message board who claims to have worked for a very long time in defence in Britain, and cannot recall any such thing of Americans taking over Marconi. Ugh! Makes me wanna give up!
We would not know about the Marconi syndrome without Tony Collins, and in turn, if you read him carefully, he might not have paid attention to this plethora of deathmethods if a local Maidenhead hack hadn't witnessed a bluebottle, in the local police-station, being belted up mid-conversation with that hack, about the David Greenhalgh attempted murder. The hack was talking away to the cop, when the phone went and the hack heard the cop being told to stop talking about the Greenhalgh death. Besides which another spiel about the Marconi deaths, I think by Mark Ian Birdsall written in the mid-1990s, stated that the nurses looking after Greenhalgh were told to shut-up about anything he might say - or else. By Military Police. If some #-wit wants to talk about spirituality after reading that, it's not going to bother me if I'm barred from this blog for swearing.
As for l'raisonen d'etre of these arcane matters, here's a point worth making - Tony Collins states that a large number of these scientists were working on a "Project Ptarmigan" when they died, and that he was exceptionally stonewalled when he enquired about that - and in a book about a UFO crash no self-respecting "ufologist" will have anything to do with, Wendelle Stevens' "UFO Crash At Aztec" states they found out that the project to back-engineer that alien technology was called "Project Ptarmigan". No-one else has made that point. Just a point, a point worth making, a little piece of the jig-saw - so you say to a "ufologist", because you, Jerome Clark, have debunked the Aztec crash, well, all that just must be a load of rubbish.
Nuff said, from www.phonedupnshutup.com, surf.to/dangerousdave

Were these guys friends of the Clintons?

Friends of Fermi la Bouche, Mon Ami.

Originally posted by martin_heth
America's General Electric Company taking over Britain's Marconi plants, to render Marconi GEC-Marconi, which happened in 1974 according to one Marconi employee I'm in touch with personally.

It seems your friend, even as employee of said company is confused, so you cannot criticise others for having some queries. GEC is, and always has been a UK company.

en.wikipedia.org...

This is a very interesting thread, and something I hadn't even heard of until now. When was the last person killed?

Its not a surprise that there is such happenings, what with the ridiculous controversy that surrounded the entire programme at even its highest echelons. Contras, Cocaine, Crack, Compton...and Reagan.

Interesting post.I had no idea of all the related deaths.Ya know this reminds me of all the unexplained deaths in the aftermath of the kenedy assination.Some of which were rather bizare as i remember.Yet they all had one thing in common...being directly or indirectly involved with the investigation.