Plane Carrying Aviation Adventurer Steve Fossett Missing

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

It certainly seems on the face of it that there exists an awful lot of officialdom and the individual organisations not wanting to tread on another organisations feet.
And yes, bureaucracy always breeds more of the same.

What did occur to me was this:

Obviously there are more private pilots in the US than UK, however when you start to think about the sheer amount of time and effort, not to mention financial burden a person invests to become a proficient flyer and then all the regular legalese they have to complete to remain airworthy, I don't think it's too much to ask of whatever enforcement agency to go look at a crash site.

I talked to the sqadron commander of the CAP in las Vegas. He is my oldest friend. He said that there are places in the north of the state that would hide a plane crash very well. He said that the rich people (Mr. Hilton) had extra satelite passes done for google earth. He takes the calls when people spot planes with google earth. Most finds are flying in the search and you can see the CAP markings on them, but they found a crash that had been there for 6 years undiscovered with 3 bodies in it.
They are looking. I still think he didn't want to be found.
He talked to a Belgian psycic who said he was under a tree with a broken leg. He asked "which tree?"
also, Steve was in a "crappy little aerobatic plane".

[edit on 22-10-2007 by earthman4]

reply to post by TommyCrown


call my friend up, ask for Preston. He will check his data. Just give him the coordiantes.

reply to post by earthman4

Does your friend know if the Belgian psychic was called Monsieur Eduard Le Dames.
Ha! ha!

reply to post by earthman4

Hi earthman4, I was replying to the link at http://r

reply to post by johnlear


Whatinhell are you doing with a DOE issued clearance?

edit: We only had full-bore Qs "as needed", and most of the time had L's unless something was up.

Maybe I'm being too "previous employment-centric".

[edit on 22-10-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

reply to post by earthman4

Hi earthman4, ignore my unfinished reply - don't know what happened there!

What I was saying was in reply to TeslaandLyne and the link at:

news.rgj.com...

regarding the person having trouble getting the coordinates of an 'unaccounted' crash site and their frustration.

Sorry for any confusion.
Great to know that your friend Preston is there for people with any missing person enquiries.

reply to post by earthman4


Yeah, earthman4 great info.

I think it was Mr Hilton's ranch the Steve Fossett took off from.
See a map in the first page by John Lear with ranch location.

Both the above two statements conditional based on how reliable my thread
memory is.

And TommyCrown the lack of forward steps toward the aviation industry
seems lagging or lacking in this crash area agenda.

Like who carers.. it was his plane., the industry is not responsible

Call me, FAA, in advance of take off if you want an N-Tap later in case
your planes goes down and someone has to find you.
(See pg2 for my posted example of N-Tap)

Nevada - California being more difficult terrane than say the fat land
of Florida.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam

Whatinhell are you doing with a DOE issued clearance?

Not to worry Tom. It was deactivated many years ago.

The news on my homepage is running a story about Steve's wife now asking the courts to declare him dead.

Wife Asks Court to Declare Fossett Dead (AP) link pending

The wife of millionaire adventurer Steve Fossett, who disappeared while flying his plane in September in rugged Western terrain, asked a court Monday to declare him legally dead.

"As painful as it is for Mrs. Fossett, other members of the family and his many friends, it is time to initiate this process," said attorney Michael A. LoVallo, who filed the petition in Cook County Circuit Court.

The request was a step toward resolving the legal status of Fossett's estate, which according to court papers is "vast, surpassing eight figures in liquid assets, various entities and real estate," LoVallo said.

I'm curious to find out what the status of Steve's estate is. If there is any funny business to his disappearance, as in him doing it on purpose and starting a new life in Europe, as some reports suggest, I would expect to find a lot of cash assets missing and unaccounted for.

Apparently, the guy was worth tens of millions of dollars. I can understand his wife wanting a death certificate for him at this point so she can gain control of the estate. Whatever happened to him, I don't think he will be coming back to claim it.

I have even stranger news.

People are seeing the GRIDKEEPER videos on YouTube of large

unknown satellites and tying it into WTC demolition by DEW from

one of those secret satellites AND the knocking out of JFK JR's

airplane controls and causing the crash and perhaps other airplane

crashes.

You mean other airplane crashes as in, they might have made Steve's plane crash? Now that would be quite a twist to this story.

reply to post by Icarus Rising


From the Doubters and Deniers Club...no one has the real story...
but you got pushers for stories of their own.

People start connecting too many things together not knowing what
some of them are.

Some sort of Blue Beam Project popped out of nowhere and I think
they are confused with Blue Ray DVDs or have some elite pseudo
science envy.

So unknown satellites with unknown Directed Energy Weapons (DEWs)
can beam down to destroy WTC towers and knock planes out of the
sky.

Just don't fly under the test area.

Beam tests on animals were carried out without concern for property
rights, what do elite criminals care about laws.

Project Blue beam A different view of the ufos filmed in space.
I get these things all the time on YouTube.
This looks harmless, not a DEW.

teslaandlyne (16 hours ago) +1

Look for Newfoundland "Bell Island" for grounding of a Tesla plasma motor, two of which are rear motors on the Belgian Triangle craft that you see here as a beam. Bright UV emissions are being picked up the NASA cameras as fleets of FOO appear as in UK, Mexico and now Hudson Vally (see ever2020).

[edit on 1/16/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 1/16/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

A hugely experienced pilot, a hi-tech search by hundreds of volunteers over 10,000 square miles that has turned up six plane wreckages... and still no trace after four months. Damon Syson reports on a missing millionaire - and how a conspiracy theory is born.

Since Fossett disappeared, the bars of Reno have been abuzz: "he must have seen something he wasn't meant to"; "he's in Panama – like that English canoe dude"; "he's been abducted by aliens" (this is, after all, not far north of Area 51, one of the most secretive places in the world and the subject of UFO speculation).

The second theory is that Fossett suffered a medical emergency in mid-air, such as a heart attack. "Perhaps very late into his flight," says Ahlstrom, "after the last radar ping, something happened to incapacitate him.

A four page spread on the mystery of Steve Fossett's disappearance.
It's featured on Live magazine, from the Mail on Sunday.

www.mailonsunday.co.uk...

[edit on 20-1-2008 by WatchTheSky]

Steve Fossett declared legally dead

A Cook County probate judge today declared wealthy Chicago adventurer Steve Fossett legally dead, five months after his plane disappeared over the Nevada desert.

Fossett's wife, Peggy, fought back tears as she told Circuit Judge Jeffrey Malak that at first no one who knew Fossett could believe he was really gone.

"He was a survivor," testified Fossett, occasionally dabbing her face with a tissue. "Everybody thought he'd come walking down the road one day and have another story to tell."

source

Wow, that was quick. Doesn't it usually take seven years to get someone who's gone missing like this declared legally dead? I guess when you have such a huge estate, and somebody trying to get their hands on it, the pace can pick up in a hurry.

Just heard on TV news, so it must be so.

Its like the bible story of the widow that wants her money,
the lawyers and law makers had there hands on estates even then.

The widow hounded the judge until the judge got scared enough for
his safety the he gave her the money.

So Mr. Fossett's estate will now be settled after how much string
pulling.

Lawyers and lawmakers are inside jobbers.

Best to hound them down into submission, like Help Me Howard does
on TV for the little guy.

reply to post by TommyCrown


Yes, interesting.

You are found unless you get lost in those large mountainous states.
A few other lost flier stories hit the news during this story.

I wonder how many lost fliers that DID file a plan were found.

JFK JR didn't file a plan according to the Bush administration, yet
he was found even when submerged.

ED: TV news says Steve was flying to Bishop,California.
Well thats what it sounded like.



[edit on 2/15/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 2/15/2008 by TeslaandLyne]

Some of daredevil Steve Fossett's accomplishments.

-- September 1985: Swims the English Channel, crossing from France to England in 22 hours, 15 minutes.

-- March 1992: Finishes the Iditarod Sled Dog Race in Alaska, covering the 1,165 miles in 14 days, 11 hours, 58 minutes and 18 seconds for a 47th-place standing.

-- February 1995: Sets the world distance ballooning record with a nonstop flight 5,435.82 miles from South Korea to Canada. It was the first solo balloon flight across the Pacific.

-- June 18-July 2, 2002: Becomes first person to circumnavigate the globe in a balloon, taking off from Australia, and crossing the finish line 13 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes and 13 seconds later, covering an estimated 19,428.6 miles. Made five previous attempts in 1996-2001, including an August 1998 attempt in which he went 14,235 miles in eight days and 13 hours before crashing in the Coral Sea.

-- April 2004: With a crew of 12, breaks the round-the-world sailing record by six days (58 days, nine hours, 32 minutes and 45 seconds).

-- March 2005: Becomes the first person to fly a plane solo around the world without stopping or refueling, covering 23,000 miles in 67 hours.

-- February 2006: Completes the longest nonstop plane flight in aviation history, flying 26,389 miles in about 76 hours.

-- August 2006: With a co-pilot, claims a world glider altitude record of 50,671 feet during a flight over the Andes Mountains.

source

Mr. Fossett lived a life full of many notable exploits, and left big shoes to fill for those who would follow in his footsteps. He set the bar very high, and I don't think some of his feats noted above will ever be exceeded.

If he is truly gone, and it certainly seems so at this point, may he finally be at rest and in peace, his last race run, his last hurdle cleared.

[edit on 16-2-2008 by Icarus Rising]

Steve isn't dead, he just went home
Possibly he was abducted by Aliens?
They never even found his aircraft right?
hmmm...

reply to post by WhiteWash

Yeah he flew into a Nazi Andromeda mother ship and he is in a
Nazi Moon or Mars base.

Those Nazi idiots were actually planning on that stuff.
And brought it to America with them.

Unless they really did prefect the Tesla propulsion system, then
there are bases on the Moon and Mars after further development
here in America. So they are Nazi-American bases, well throw in
Illuminati too but do not think they would absorb the cost.