queen of england owns your body as stock?

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Please elaborate, this could be most illuminating for all of us.

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These are just my thoughts and ideas, take them for what you will.

I was shocked when I first realised that the governments were lying to their people. I also realised that through these lies, it caused most of the people to be unaware of what is truly going on. With that being said... I knew there was something fishy going on right then.. But I couldnt put my finger on it yet. I also thought it odd, why we even have money in the first place.. I mean, who's to say which humans have the right to print and control money? If you say the government... Just remember that the federal reserve is a private bank, and they print the money. Money is just a peice of paper, which humans created, so that they could give it to other humans... That is when I realised... It's all about control and power over us. Money isn't even real. I knew then that this is not a free world.

[edit on 29-9-2007 by DarkCyrus]

You miss the point. Money is real. But how many use actually money these days? It's all on cards so we can monitor what you're doing .....

what makes this whole think so silly is two simple things

if banks, lawyers, attornies and the queen were discussing loans and collateral, as testified to by the "researcher", there would be documentation. No one has provided any documantation from these esteemed "researchers". Until then, it's just a theory.

No bank on earth would accept human lives as collateral on a loan. Someone please explain to me how the bank collects if the loan is defaulted.

Even if they would consider it, they wouldn't consider it from the useless figure head monarch of a shrinking empire that just got their proverbial asses handed to them

[edit on 29-9-2007 by syrinx high priest]

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What I think they are trying to say is, they own us through collection of taxes ect. That is how they make money from us. And the bank prints the money, which the government uses.. But the hidden thing is the bank control where the money goes and basicaly they are the ones taking our money.

Watch the Illuminati videos found here:


video.google.com...

They might help shed more light on the matter. They're very interesting even if you don't believe it.

Originally posted by DarkCyrus
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What I think they are trying to say is, they own us through collection of taxes ect. That is how they make money from us. And the bank prints the money, which the government uses.. But the hidden thing is the bank control where the money goes and basicaly they are the ones taking our money.

nope

he says we are collateral on a loan. He even uses the word "stock" specifically, hence the title of the thread.

Two words to add here, Social Security. Security's legal definition isn't a nice retirement plan for old folks, it literally means security, collateral. Once that was set up, the gold standard was a goner. The federal reserve is secured on nothing more than you and millions of others getting up and going to work the next day and being worth the interest paid to it. Social Security indeed.

I think people should have more respect for people like Jordan Maxwell, because much of his work is great. He says he has been researching these matters for over 40 years.

I don't think he's making up BS for profit - one of his most commonly used phrases is "you need to do your homework". That more or less answers those asking for documents and evidence - you can research this stuff yourself, before labeling Maxwell a weirdo or nutjob. I think Americans are afraid of the thought of being owned by the Queen of Great Britain, but I'm sure plenty of them are already controlled by television and whatever else.

I think it's obvious that your body is not truly yours - you're not allowed legally experiment with certain drugs, for example.

Maxwell may overestimate the meaning of certain words, however. But then again, the people he's referring to may take these words seriously and perhaps he's right.

[edit on 25-10-2007 by +5757]

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if he's such an accomplished researcher, where are the docs ?

you can't say he's been studying something for 40 years, but used the wrong terms

please

he says stock and uses the terms loan and collateral. There is no wiggle room there. What else could he possibly have meant ? These are all very simple terms and ideas

There is no bank on earth that would use human beings as collateral, because the bank cannot collect them if the loan is defaulted

the entire premise is poppycock

the Queen can have lawyers draft up a secret documents saying she owns me all she wants, but that doesn't make it any truer than if I made a secret document saying I AM the Queen of England



[edit on 25-10-2007 by syrinx high priest]

What do you mean by loan defaulted? What does that mean?

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defaulting a loan means not living up to the terms, usually paying it back as agreed to, like monthly payments or whatever

So in this case defaulting probably applies to people not paying their taxes...?

Well you can use your own logic to figure that out.

Think about things like conscription and compulsory education, and your name being in ALL CAPS on documents (taxation, passports, bank cards, social security etc.)

[edit on 25-10-2007 by +5757]

[edit on 25-10-2007 by +5757]

Hi all! Had to register just for this thread...

Not accepting humans as collateral is completely untrue.

Every single government (that has national debt) uses its people as collateral.

Government bond yield is considered the "risk-free rate" because under normal circumstances governments cannot go bankrupt and thus legally default on their loan. They can default due to other reasons, but compared to businesses, they cannot default the legal way i.e. going bankrupt.

This is due to the government's "right" to tax its citizens. The right to tax means a guaranteed cash inflow which implies a lack of risk. So every time ANY government issues new debt, the creditor accepts the citizens of that country as collateral because they combined with the right to tax are the components of making that loan risk free.

The biggest practical difference is that a government is not be able to default in such a way that the ownership of the collateral would be transferred. That would require a legal way to go bankrupt. Governments don't file for Chapter 7 or Chapter 11. The collateral used is also unnecessary to be explicitly defined in any contracts as it is implicit in the status ("a sovereign government") of the debtor.

Thats right. Furthermore, the world economic system is based on ledger entries. Value is fictional, a fiction that is being authored by fellow human beings. Bankers staged a market crash and bought virtually the whole of England in 1815. This will likely happen again but in the States, a major market crash after which the market will be flooded with gold and silver. This will bring the value of gold and silver down to almost nothing. They know that people will panic. They will acquire what little wealth we have left for pennies. We will beg for the government to help us and we will give birth to a true socialist, totalitarian government right here in the US.

Our reality is simple in one regard. We are slaves. If was have a Social Security 'insurance' number issued by the UN than we are born into debt that can never be repaid. The 'freedom' we believe we have is actually criminal. We can not be free because we are the surety on which the system is based. Our breath is the energy of commerce. And that is why Jordan Maxwell and the film, The Matrix are so important to us. They help us to see outside of everything we've experienced since birth and understand that there is a reality behind the charade in which we've been coerced to playing a part.

Popular uprising has been effective in the past, but if we hold onto the childish comfort the familiarity that living the lie affords us than we will not be able to do anything. Once too many of our basic life actions are criminalized it will be too late.

Unite, rise up, and install constitutional government as Thomas Jefferson reminds us is our responsibility as sovereigns of the republic. If we shrink from our responsibility we'll get what we deserve. That is what it is to be American, to be free. Free to waste the best protection man has ever had from tyranny. Free to elect people into government positions who don't represent us and our interests. Free to allow private banking interests to dictate the boundaries of our standard of living and extract our wealth. Free to be slaves.

WIll history be kind to us? Or will we be remembered as the generation who was too busy worrying about the numbers in our bank accounts and on our scales to see that America was being systematically dismantled? Whatever happens to this republic and us we will have ourselves to credit or blame. Freedom is not without responsibility. And if we don't live up to it those who say we are too weak-minded to utilize our intelligence, and are poor stewards of freedom will be correct. And they will be morally justified in initiating any kind of change they deem beneficial for the good of the race.

I've read about maritime law before as it actually comes from Roman law. It is not the law of the land, and any representative or court that enforces it is violating the constitution. I can't remember where I found it but we don't sign away our personhood and the Constitution is the highest law of the land. Even while I say this, I'm aware that the right hands of nwo are actually practicing this psudo-law scheme, and I think by these videos and various disclosures that have come out, they are attempting to condition you to accept this.
Well, they are insane! They live in a fantasy world that exists for them only because the average person is not aware that they have elected psychos yet. So they do their illegal psuedo things in stealth mode, for a reason. They know by sure numbers, that each and every one of the insane murderous fools breathes by our clemency, and so they don't advertise their fantasy world publically.

End of story.

[edit on 18-9-2008 by mystiq]

Originally posted by Chorlton

Originally posted by StreetCorner Philosopher
Time lord is right. He is right about the royal bloodlines, they killed Princess Diana over the fact that she was dating commoners. Thats how serious this is.

But Diana herself was a commoner? so how do you work that one out then ?

[edit on 1/9/07 by Chorlton]

Lady Di was a descendant of the House of Stuart, something I discovered researching my my descendant Sir Walter Scott. She may not have been titled but her bloodline was acceptable for their nefarious schemes.

Interesting?


Knowledge is Freedom

An Expose'

THE UNITED STATES
IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY

EXTORTING
TAXES FOR THE CROWN!

A DOCUMENTARY REVIEW
OF CHARTERS AND TREATIES
August 17, 1996

www.atgpress.com...

Jodan Maxwell is not the only oe to say this, so I suppose others have their reasons to say this. Surely they must have some documents, actually I remember watching a video a while back showing a document that the federal reserve once referenced on this. maybe you will find it if you look enough for it. It was removed later though, yes easy for me to poin this out now but it does exist. Believe what you want.

Originally posted by infiltr8u
British people make me laugh!, they are so insistent that they still have control over the US...

They do. How else can you explain George H.W. Bush getting down on his knees in front of the Queen.

Originally posted by jfj123
actually,
officially bill gates is the richest man in the world.

Here is a list of top 5:
1. Bill Gates US$56.0 billion...

Only 56 billion? If Bill Gates is the "richest person in the world", then I guess the Rockefellers and Rothschilds don't exist...

The richest people in the world are behind the scenes. Bill Gates is the "richest puppet presented".

[edit on 3/1/09 by NuclearPaul]