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The Coming "Civil" War???

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posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 08:21 PM
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I have been thinking (which I tend to do at rare moments) lately about the issue of the NAU and the NWO. I am all but convinced that we are heading for a world wide empire and heading there quickly.

The way I see it, we already have the EU and now there are many that are pushing and planning for a NAU. IF/WHEN that happens, how long can it be before the EU and NAU conjoin? Would that be different than an empire by anything other than name?

These NWO plans seem to be coming to fruition with a scary speed and suprisingly (perhaps not so) little talk.

I've noticed around the board that there are quite a number of members that seem to be totally in favor of a North American Union. The most common question I have come across from these people is "What's the big deal?" or "What's so wrong with it?". The fact that it would be COMPLETELY unconstitutional and against everything the United States is supposed to stand for, seems to not be enough of an answer to "what is wrong with it".

However, at the same time there seems to be an equal amount (if not more) that are dead set against the idea of a NAU and World Wide Imperialism. (me being one of them)

Thinking about this has lead me to wonder; What is going to happen when the NAU becomes a complete reality? Will this event provoke another "Civil" War in this country? With the anti-globalists on one side and the pros on the other?

Or will the NAU be just another in a long list of events that serve to enslave us that we let happen without a fight?


What do you guys think?

Jasn



posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 10:28 PM
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I also think that our country and the world is headed in that direction. I am disturbed at how many Americans can simply say "it's for our security" or "whats wrong with that". These people do not deserve to have liberty or security. When the NAU is confirmed and brought into the light I hope that Americans get as angry as I am today about the future state of our land. It is sad to see that we will not take a stand against the elite until they are bashing in our doors and imprisoning us all. By then it will be to late.

I would rather die free than live enslaved



posted on Aug, 25 2007 @ 10:39 PM
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I agree 110%. "Give me liberty or give me death" eh?

New Orleans would be as good a place to start the revolution as any hehe...I'm headed that way in a few months.


Jasn



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 01:44 AM
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As a martial arts instructor/native american/military veteran/ school teacher... I tell you this:

Ill fight.

I fight every day. Ive fought in the past, I fight in the present, and Ill d* sure fight in the future.

Take away my rights, (since you have every chance you got), I dare you.

We fight every day, we have fought in the past, we fight in the present, and we will D* sure fight in the future...

There are plenty of us who are in. We have always been here. We are here today. And we will be here in the future...

There is nothing 'they' can do about it.

Revolution? A revolution of the mindset has been going on for eons...

If you are a US of A citizen, I would like to take this time to point out a few things about your 'illustrious' government...

Ask yourself just one of the following questions (deeply and wholeheartedly) and realize when/where you are at and what/who you are supporting in your beliefs/understandings/and way of life...

Who enslaved the Black Race for their own self centered ends and means?

Who massacred a deeply spiritual group of peoples for land, resources, material wealth, self centered policies and (may I point out) religious beliefs?

Who assassinated those who spoke up against such measures being used against MODERN humanity?

Who orchestrated a war against its own people in order to perpetuate a neverending war against others?

(if even ONCE you thought about your own government, you should start thinking about fighting too...)

If you DONT fight against this, you are not even on our radar, let alone on our side...



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 02:48 AM
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ok i'm so like hearing you right now dude but the problem is that if there is a civil war comming then this must be the 2012 thing and #ter theres certainly going to be a lot going on in the next few years i really hope that getting hillary into office is the right thing to do since it looks like she is fighting to go the other way of where things are headed right now.

but let me tell you this if the revolution ever comes i will be the first one out there shooting the rich bankers and idiot lawmakers



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:11 AM
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You were joking about the greater of the two evils version of Bill Clinton right?

Please tell me you were.


Jasn



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 04:23 AM
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I have a theory that we are being pitted against illegal aliens in the U.S. The policies in place seem to fuel the problem we have with immigration and contradict the logical answers the public has come to. I think urban pop culture is slowly dictating violence between hispanics and African Americans. This is where it will spark.



posted on Aug, 26 2007 @ 05:47 PM
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Yes my revolution will begin here. My family has been here for many generations dating back to the early 19th century. This will be my home base when the revolt spreads and becomes infectious. I will protect my ancestors land from evil tyrants and anyone trying to help or support the Globalists.



posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 07:08 PM
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uh.. well whats your point



posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 08:30 PM
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I find it hard to imagine a revolution or civil war in this country, here's why. I think about the Bolshevik Revolution and a few things were apparent at that time: the country was destabilizing, floundering economy, and an obvious and identifiable resistance had developed, under leadership.

In the United States, you have a powerful central government with a substantial force existing only in rumor and classified documents. There is incredible wealth here, although this is changing bit by bit for the worst. The military is advanced and people are controlled very efficiently through the government's tentacles of disinformation; there is the media, false flag operations, and everything just seems to fit into a grid. Life is chaos and in the USA I see more and more order with extreme hostility shelled out to dissident ideas or actions.

So if there is a civil war, who would be fighting in it? There would be the incredible power, organization, efficiency, and telemetry of the government vs......the lowly people of the USA? Granted, there are plenty of gun owners and people with some kind of training who could offer some form of reasonable resistance. However, there would need to be some kind of organization from the side of resistance. I don't see soccer moms, over weight husbands, and the rest of the family taking up arms against a leviathan. The people who are gung ho about a revolution/civil war, likely the ones most angered at government infractions and wrongdoings, would in my mind be made example of and killed quickly.

If not the general population of the United States you would probably need some kind of major split in the country to formulate several factions, at least 2. Republicans and Democrats are too close on the political "idealometer" to have gross and obvious conflicts of interest. You have the communists and left wingers, always an option.

I do not see any parties to put forth a fight. A country can strike the USA and make war, but who will collectively rise up and begin a civil war? This country is full (primarily) of people bred to be safe and "brought up well," censorship is rampant. I see these people not wanting to step back from the power tit of the USA that keeps them well fed on some bull crap. When you cry wolf, no one believes you when you scream from being eaten by a wolf: likewise, when you are crammed full of disinformation your whole life its a very hard and long fall back to earth before you could even begin to get your proper bearings in a world where observational skills are quickly becoming more important than intelligence.



posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 08:47 PM
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I will fight the Union of North America even if I am reduced to fighting it with chopsticks and an arrowhead.

Bush has already signed an economic integration pact with the European Union -- without Congress' involvement.

But then Bush is dictator now whether or not US Americans want to admit it, and so will Mrs. Clinton be dictator should she be elected. It doesn't matter which globalist stooge is elected -- we who value the individual and sovereignty must do what we can to make the globalist machine break down and crash in on itself.



posted on Aug, 27 2007 @ 10:46 PM
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i like reading about this stuff i see something but cant really make out what it is but i do feel something comeing and its not good
but is the idea of a world goverment such a bad idea? what you think the UN is?

2nd mainstrem pepole dont care or care to know about this stuff they think its a joke or they bleave were all crazy thinking about this..
..all they care about is were the next paycheck is comeing form and what celeberty got cought driveing drunk there to simple minded to know whats for there own good
you say how pepole in goverment have no backbone what about the pepole ? i see society becomeing weak no backbone and dumbed down all talk no action and complain about just about anything becouse in all honesley i dont think many pepole give a # about there rights they just care about there day to day thing and telling pepole what to do or what they shouldint be doing or what they should buy

in the end no one gives a # and thats the porblem



posted on Aug, 29 2007 @ 02:01 AM
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I agree. I think it will be no good, not like they say it will be. We'll loose the last bits of freedom we do have and ever been stuck in the dying society that's presented of, no longer a middle class and such.



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