Customs and Border Protection Crew Intercepts Submerged Smuggling Vessel Filled With Cocaine

I'm not the one making claims that can't be checked. It would be the same if I claimed drug use was going down.

Yes, they're ingenious. We are only limited by imaginations. That goes for both sides, us and them.

Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
? thoughts ?
 

Bite the head of the snake?

Some one mentioned necessity is the mother of invention, seems to me like trying to plug an old leaky dam. Water (water being an analogy for drugs) is good at finding a route. It's not really the users that are the big problem, it's the people willing to supply (and enable the supply - I won't mention any agency cos there will be others that don't have a 3 letter acronym starting with C ending with A)

As for a transport method, I used to have a regular discussion with a mate on the possibility of what are now termed UAV's (this was back when GPS was fairly new and we was trying to think of a use for an old laptop and GSM mobile phones) The idea being having the thing fly on a given heading and be landed at either end with standard R/C - the mobile would be the modem for maybe updating headings in flight and keeping a live location.

But that is really a non-starter unless the border your planning to cross has no real air space infrastructure - this aircraft would have to be fairly substantial and is likely to be constructed fairly cheaply (not exactly stealthy) If you wanted to send millions worth of gear you'd be better of getting some mug in a light aircraft to take it personally

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Of course it would have been better if I had posted some sort of corroborating evidence but just expressing my personal opinion gained through my life experiences.
I witness the results of effects of drug misuse and it's associated crime every day.
As long as there are huge amounts of money to make people will seek increasingly ingenious ways to smuggle drugs in.
It was never the intention to go off thread, just a personal opinion.

Originally posted by DeltaNine
I'm not the one making claims that can't be checked.

Sure you are. Opposing views require substantiation just as that which they are addressing. no?

Your response(s) have since failed to possess any corroberating "evidence" and or statistical analysis to support the oppositon contained therein. (?)

It would be the same if I claimed drug use was going down.

How so? ... and as a result of What?

Demand, Desire, or Legislation. (?)

-just curious-

 

It seems that according to official figures drug use in UK is flattening off but the choice of drugs are changing with coc aine now being the preferred drug, that is certainly something that I would agree with

www.internationaldrugpolicy.net...

It's hard to put a figure on overall US drug use as it seems to be measured state by state but here's some interesting details on the type, source and amounts of illegal drugs being smuggled into the USA.

www.dea.gov...

I think most agree that when looking at these amounts criminals will continue to use ever increasing ingenious and sophisticated means to achieve their goals.

If I knew how, well I would either be a law enforcement officer or a very rich criminal, or perhaps both

Something that wont ever happen.....: A total revision of all drugs, ALL drugs at all levels

Never gonna happen, individual drugs thrown to the media jury - everyday, full on single report, ha. Too much money involved, too many jobs and positions but most of all no political will at all.

Imagine a world where nicotine is bad but tetrahydrocannabinoliods are preferable to alcohol, conversation and biscuits are preferable to broken family's and random violence.

Unthinkable.

Originally posted by 12m8keall2c

Originally posted by DeltaNine
I'm not the one making claims that can't be checked.

Sure you are. Opposing views require substantiation just as that which they are addressing. no?

Your response(s) have since failed to possess any corroberating "evidence" and or statistical analysis to support the oppositon contained therein. (?)

It would be the same if I claimed drug use was going down.

How so? ... and as a result of What?

Demand, Desire, or Legislation. (?)

-just curious-

It's impossible because we don't know which country we're talking about and because usage figures are almost impossible to procure.

IMO, the only logical thing for the gov to do is legalize most/all and decriminalize the rest...
it is obvious prohibition don't work. i don't think we need a link with stats to see that.
if the gov was to decriminalize, that would free up time and money to secure the border.

as to the craft, pretty cool but pretty crude. have to wonder how many metric tons that actual boat as successfully shipped into the states...
no way on the first trip they load it with 300 million. you have to think that dude has been going back and forth for a bit at least.

no matter what they do, land mines, walls, whatever...they are bringing it in all across the borders, in a variety of ways.
i don't have numbers but i think if they catch one plane then 2-3 get by...

there are always going to be these drugs.....let adults use em if they want to and face the consequences of it....
it's what happens anyway....lets focus on other issues.

what if that half sub thing was not really a 'decoy', but was not the 'real load' either???
vary nice

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This isnt the first sub caught smuggling M.M.Ive heard of at least one other cught sometime ago.

Wow. A submarine loaded with over 350 million worth of coke snaking through the water, sheesh!! I haven't ever heard of that one before now, that's pretty interesting.

[edit on 24-8-2007 by fweshcawfee]

To be perfectly honest it wouldn't surprise me one bit if some of the bigger cartels had attempted/have submarines bought second hand from Russia and North Korea (North Korea being pretty heavily involved in te drug trade themselves).

Ya, the CIA took a bit of a hit with that one.
Or maybe it was a decoy and four more subs got through while the Coast Guard was busy taking down the one that was conspicuously half-submerged.

[edit on 24-8-2007 by TheComte]

Originally posted by DeltaNine
To be perfectly honest it wouldn't surprise me one bit if some of the bigger cartels had attempted/have submarines bought second hand from Russia and North Korea (North Korea being pretty heavily involved in te drug trade themselves).

I think Pablo Escobar tried that .... and then Delta and the Policia Nacional Colombia put a hole between his eyes.