Are Greys Actually Human?

This theory isn't entirely new. But I'm posting my variation of it because I don't think my reasoning has been touched on very much. Personally, I am not even sure if I subscribe to my own theory, but it seems to make sense.

They could be humans from an alternate timeline, or possibly even dimension. But whatever they are, they seem to VERY similar to us.

Let's first take their skin color, and other physical traits.

Grey- Not to be racist, but if all of the human species intermingled and bred together into one homogenous color, what would that color be?

Head- Their heads are huge in proportion to their bodies. In can be assumed, based off of what we know about evolution that the dominate or (most desireable) trait for this lifestyle they find themselves in is intellect, knowledge, intelligence.

Body- Their bodies are not suited for physical tasks. You never see a "muscular" grey. They rely on machines to do the work for them. Based off of what we know about evolution, if for generations muscular qualities were not required, or under-emphasized, size and strength would diminish with the requirement of labor.

Eyes- Their most prominent feature. We can assume this has evolved through of eyes in study. We are a very visual people, as they likely are.

Nose- They are used to a sterile, techno-lifestyle. They have little need for sensitive smell, so the process of evolution is gradually eliminating it.

Ears- As they seem to communicate with telepathy, the need for ears gradually evolves away.

Mouth: Most accounts I have read do not show Greys using their mouths, either for speech, or for taste. We can assume this is another fature evolving away.

Hair- They are bald critters. In the animal kingdom, hair is used for warmth and protection from the elements. However, as they are not exposed to nature, they did not require hair.

Genitals- They don't appear to have much, if anything going on downstairs. It is assumed by many that they actually require other creatures (such us as, cattle, etc) to breed. These could have evolved away from lack of use, possibly as a means of preventing STD's. Physical mating was no longer nessicery as their technology was able to achieve the same ends.

Now let's have a chat about technology. This is their big thing. They'r enot physically strong, they don't have accute senses, but what they do have is a tremendous wealth of scientific knowledge.

Let me take a step back. As we look at the anatomy of Greys, they're not well suited for interaction with nature. They may not be able to eat or breed on their own. Their bodies are frail so they certainly could not endure the elements, and slipping on a rock could be disasterous. Most of their senses are evolving away. This is a species that has evolved away from nature, completely dependent on technology.

Now, look at human beings as we know them today.

Skin- We still come in many colors and shades. However interracial relations are becoming more common.

Head- We are the most mentally advanced creatures we know about. With an expansion of scientific awareness, we're becoming more reliant on our mental capacity.

Body- We are a stronger people. However, as our technology becomes more advanced, we're doing less work ourselves. We do not need to be strong, because our interaction with nature is still limited at this point. These days, physical activities, games, outdoor activities are on the decline, while video games, simulation, and other means of entertainment are replacing the physical.

Eyes- These are in most cases, our most used sense organs. We're a very visual people.

Nose- We still have noses, but the requirement for strong sense of smell is deteriorating as we spend more time in controlled environments.

Ears- We have ears, and still use them frequently. But visual media (texting, and other forms of communcation) are gradually replacing the spoken word.

Mouth- We're a loud-mouthed people. With technology on the rise, vocal communication may start to decline. It is possible now to feed a person who cannot eat, whether tehy are unconcious or otherwise.

Hair- We are the baldest of primates. We can make shelter, build fires, or sit in climate controlled comfort for that matter. The need for hair is decreasing. Shaving is very popular as well. With less outdoor exposure, the need for hair may decrease further still.

Genitals- We like to get our freak on, but it is no longer a biological requirement. We can get around it to varying extents with technology. Also, STD's are on the rise, as pathogens mutate further and become more contagious, our sexual desires may be conquered by our fear of death.

Our technology is very important to us. With it, we no longer need to hunt. Each generation there is less manual work that needs to be done. Electronic entertainment is replacing physical activity. Each successive generation, as a whole is becoming less active, and more reliant on technology. If you don't believe me, think about the stories of hardships your grandparents, or great grandparents had to endure. It sounds brutal, but with less scientific advantages, they had to be a more rugged people.

With increasing technology, I see a gradual evolution away from nature. As we become increasingly reliant on our machines, we become decreasingly capable of surviving without it.

If we continued on this path, using evolution as your guide, what do you think we'd become?

Thanks for enduring this theory.

i once read in a magazing in some 5 millions years we will evolve in big head big eyes, kind of Grey look, so maybe greys are people form the future,

while i'm not sure they exist, i lean more towards "from the future" than I do "from somewhere else". I just think they're too similar for it to be coincidental.

Another scenario where large eyes and light skin would make sense would be an underground/low light living condition....or maybe even the blackness of space).

I will wait to speculate on that when anyone...anyone can prove that they even exist. I believe they take on the human shape just because it is human nature to assign humanity to anything imaginary in an effort to digest it better. We are programmed to see humanity in everything, and inject it into every fantasy and dream we have. It's an old survival trait for youngsters, and it still plays a roe in our modern day fictional stories and imagination.

Very scientific answer, I know but:
I hope my descendents never look like greys: I think they look scary and are absolutely ugly!

But I've still got the question: why?
What are they doing here if they come from the future?
Aren't they doing the worst timetravel mistake: meddeling with their own history?
On the other hand, maybe they are 'X-humans' who left the earth thousands of years ago?!
(Remember the stories about nukes in the antics or the theory that we aren't the first civilisation on this world...)

Sammy

I've heard of muscular greys, and greys with teeth but I still don't think they're human. I often wonder if they're manmade thought-forms, or maybe even a natural thought-form, that acts as a container for human souls to stop them dissipating back into the universal soup. So we can live again without having to start from scratch. A "keep the soul whole" kinda thing.

Originally posted by Aldolas
Very scientific answer, I know but:
I hope my descendents never look like greys: I think they look scary and are absolutely ugly!
Sammy

No species is ugly. True Greys are far superior in intelligence. Through my life long years of experience and research, I've concluded that most of them are not true Greys. They are androids. I have a lot of compassion for them because of their struggle to keep their species going as their DNA was failing. And, as humans keep destroying their DNA with cigarette smoking, humans DNA will also FAIL! Humans already have way too many inhertable disfunctions.

Originally posted by realanswers
And, as humans keep destroying their DNA with cigarette smoking, humans DNA will also FAIL! Humans already have way too many inhertable disfunctions.

I am not disputing this information, I'm just asking for clarification. For those of us who do not take medications, or smoke, what sorts of disfunctions do you mean? I am not quite sure we have reached that point of no return. Could you please provide a bit more info on this?

Originally posted by Aldolas
But I've still got the question: why?
What are they doing here if they come from the future?
Aren't they doing the worst timetravel mistake: meddeling with their own history?
On the other hand, maybe they are 'X-humans' who left the earth thousands of years ago?!
(Remember the stories about nukes in the antics or the theory that we aren't the first civilisation on this world...)

Sammy

If they are from an alternate future, or THIS future, they may not really have to adhere to the scifi "no meddling" clause.

As far as them being from a former advanced civilization, I don't know. I personally believe there have been advanced civilizations before what we know as history. But are the greys from there? I wouldn't hazard a guess.

Originally posted by wigit
I often wonder if they're manmade thought-forms, or maybe even a natural thought-form, that acts as a container for human souls to stop them dissipating back into the universal soup. So we can live again without having to start from scratch. A "keep the soul whole" kinda thing.

I've not heard a theory like this before. From my understanding, there shouldn't be a need for such a thing, unless you mean, for example, when I die I can get a grey body so that my conciousness doesn't have to start over when I'm reborn. If that's what you mean, it sounds like a way to cheat the natural of the ol' life/death cycle.

Originally posted by TheGreySwordsman
Grey- Not to be racist, but if all of the human species intermingled and bred together into one homogenous color, what would that color be?

Well it definitely wouldn't be gray, that's for sure.

A light tone, similar to what Asian people have.

Spacetime is a poorly understood field at best, so it aint impossible. A new theory of time travelling neutrinos has arisen - shaking relativity to the core as it did - so we clearly dont yet grasp all we could about time.

First part - believeable

Obesity, lack of excercise, rising STDs and ever more chemical tinkering with our environment and food (air-con, hydrogenated fats) all point to an evolutionary path taking us further and further from the physical world and into a cocoon of technology. However, i cant say i would support the theory that we would gradually turn grey - although radiation, or many other causes would make it perfectly possible.

Evolution theory - believable

Any civilisation with curious intellects such as our own is interested in its past as well as its future, and so if it had time-travelling capabilities would be keen to research its evolutionary history.

Prescence here - believable

In conclusion, this theory fulfills the best traditions of alien speculation; totally believable while utterly improvable.

Unless of course you manage to, in which case i expect you to continue along that rocky path by focusing your future attention on disproving the existance of God.

Happy hunting.

Originally posted by Drzava
i once read in a magazing in some 5 millions years we will evolve in big head big eyes, kind of Grey look, so maybe greys are people form the future,

Funny you should say that as i was told they lived here in the middle east about 5 million years ago and left this planet for unknown reasons.They have changed their bodies via DNA,there bodies are imune to solar radiation(apart from the eyes that have a black membrane attached to filter out the radiation)There also ALL test tube aliens,who have a natural life span of 300/400 odd years and when there body gives up their souls leave and enter another young body to mature in.
Well this info came from a chaneller who was contacted by the Greys involved in the Roswell crash.They talk in detail about their homeland now some 750 thousand light years away!
They despise their hideous bodies,and cant believe that we are still alive on this planet.The natural disaster that caused them to flee must have spared enough of them still here to carry on their genetics in whatever way it did with possible interaction with other species in the past.
Of course the chaneller may be as mad as a hatter,but yeahh there us in 5 million years after leaving this planet!

Originally posted by seeingevil
A light tone, similar to what Asian people have.

I don't think so. Genetically speaking, brown is dominant. In eye color, for example, the genes work like this, one gene from each parent to form a pair:

Brown-Brown = Brown
Brown-Blue = Brown
Blue-Blue = Blue

If brown is there, it wins. From an evolutionary standpoint it gets more complicated, of course, and climate has a big bearing on skin color. However, assuming that populations will no longer be as isolated as they once were so they could develop their own traits, AND assuming the medical sciences will tend to circumvent natural selection, the mixture of races should bring about, eventually, a trend towards darker skin rather than lighter.

Now if you take a select population of people and stick them in northern Scotland under primitive and unhospitable conditions, it will take a few tens of thousands of years to produce a race of blonde, blue-eyed, color-blind people. But given the mixture and diversity in today's earth, that's unlikely to happen again any time soon.

I can understand the "it's us from the future" theory too as they would look like a human in two million years, or so.

But, the sticking point. If they ARE us, coming back to take DNA, cattle parts, doing experiments to change their future... then why are they still coming back?

Surely they would have changed themselves for the better and wouldn't now need to come back for DNA, cattle parts, doing experiments.

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Chaz.

First, the reason for "aliens" looking
human is due to anthropomorphism.

Second, I've got to ask :
Originally posted by realanswers

True Greys are far superior in intelligence.

Really. Exactly how did you come to this conclusion ?

Through my life long years of experience and research, I've concluded that most of them are not true Greys.

After these "life long years", surely you have some
physical evidence ? Pictures ? Video ?

They are androids.

Really ? Please, enlighten your enrapt audience
with more proof of this !

I have a lot of compassion for them because of their struggle to keep their species going as their DNA was failing.

How did they relay this information ?
Books ? Tablets ? Telepathy ?
You seem to be "in the know".
For the love of Pete, let us in !

My dear Sir,
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I'm eagerly awaiting yours.

Regards,
Lex

I like the point that they(the greys) are too human in almost every way. Why arent they an attractive squid race for example? The argument from technology (which is what I am calling the op's idea) is remarkably convincing, so much so that I resist it. Another has pointed out as well that a greyish to white colour and enlarged eyes is also consistent with basically cave dwellers, which itself is consistent with the op's ideas (the Platonic cave of technology etc. ad nauseum). Why would they keep coming back? perhaps they are continually spinning off new hybrids; none of which are "them", so return is always necessary. It could be a lack of success (reproduction/evolution is no easy matter). It could be that slightly different versions of these aliens are continually drawn to "our" timeline from an infinite number of alternate realities., guaranteeing a continual supply of greys for our time in history. Also, I want to point out that time travel and alternate timeline type thinking are highly linked, and, if you think about it, any future is only ever probable, so that , various potential futurisities could visit a given historical epoch that they share in common in that is from their viewpoint "past". The usual mistaken approach to time travel theories is the adherance to the principle of linearity, of a simple push me pull you cause and effect - the reality is that causes and effects ripple outward, sideways, in every direction, inwards and outwards such that any given described causal timeline is only ever picked out of a near infinity of potentialy percieved raw data.

Originally posted by liquidself
. Also, I want to point out that time travel and alternate timeline type thinking are highly linked, and, if you think about it, any future is only ever probable, so that , various potential futurisities could visit a given historical epoch that they share in common in that is from their viewpoint "past".

I feel that our current understanding of time is lacking. These entities, if this theory is true, could be crawling out of some potential timeline that has not yet been determined, and they're warning us about heading in that path, while they're using our generic material to perpetuate the species.

I just don't know, they haven't offered me an interview...Maybe they'd offer one to Larry King, that guy is good.

Larry King, that hack! cancelled Micheal Moore for the sakes of some cheap celebrity we have already forgotten! Sorry, he gets on my nerves. I agree our currrent understaqing of time is severely lacking, yet everywhere the solutions, as it were, abound, to put it hidebound. Ever see Donnie Darko? Take note. What is the the numerical input equivalent of the sheer data incursion we are experiencing due to time travelling preccessional recursion from n-dimensional time incipience? Could it simply equal er, "everyday experience?" How would we know the difference? You have got to be, like, SHarP! Like, really sHaRp. I like the way you laid out the phenomenlogical features of the alien genomic experience - extremenological argument from teletechnology - like I would do it myself. Like I have done it myself. Isolate all salient features and move from there. However, implied is the fatalism of the technological feat, (to be repeated endlesslssly))>>> which, I will say, is also a physical experience, once and one time only - contra mater Teresa who claims that technology is the effacing of physical reality.

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I've not seen Donnie Darko, though I've heard good things. If you made references to it, I missed them, sorry. In any event, I feel that every theory that becomes relatively scientifically accepted should still be viewed with skepticism. Look throughout recent centuries, how many notions were they "sure of" were proven to be way off mark?

This type of consideration needs to be applied when discussing any unknown phenomenon. We can't go describing in great detail the chemical composition and psychology of an entity that we have not even confirmed to exist or not. Who's to say that what is currently known has relevance to an unknown? Well, we can only go off of the data that is currently acceptable, and because of that limitation, we may be unable to determine the "truth" of a given at this time. Many demand proof for this or that, when I don't think our understanding has caught up enough to even be able to prove certain things that are discussed here on ATS.

I like to use this example to show what I mean. Picture yourself on a beach. You're sitting there, you hear the ocean waves crashing on the shore. You feel the sand beneath you shift to accomodate your movement.

Now, this occured in your imagination. Can you prove it? No. There is no way to demonstrate that in fact, yes, this is what happened in your mind. But nonetheless, there will be doubters, saying there is no way that happened. You weren't on a beach in your mind. But in fact you were.

Many things are like this, at one level or another. New information needs to be viewed with a skeptical eye, yet, trying to maintain and open mind, allowing the possibility for this to be true. I think too many demand things that cannot be given. If I saw a UFO once, and I didn't get a picture of it, it's a shame. But simply because I am not constantly on the ready in the event I experience something unusual, does not mean I should be scolded for lack of evidence.

When it comes to greys, what I ahve offered is but one possibility. I'm simply trying to get people to start thinking in different directions about this.