US 'Shoot on Site' Order Issued For Escaping Americans

I thought the writing style of the snip sounded familiar. Sorcha Faal, we all know that source is totally reliable.LOL.

Not gonna lose any sleep over this one tonight. I really wouldn't post anything and let this die the thread death it needs,but I just had to be the first to say "c'mon it's Sorcha Faal". Anyone who has followed CTs for a while knows that Sucha Fool is at best comic relief.

Other than the source there are some decent replies on here though.



[edit on 21-8-2007 by jefwane]

Incredible, the gullibility of some people.

Since when does Alberto Gonzales have the authority to tell Canada and Mexico what their border guards are allowed to do? If he had such authority, there would be no illegal immigration problem.

Think about what is being said before you start saying we are "prisoners in our own nation".:shk:

Originally posted by Shadowflux
I think you guys are missing the point here. Firstly, we don't shoot illegal immigrants on site, we generally round them up and send them back if we catch them.

Secondly, as an American citizen you should have the right to decide to leave your country without the fear of retaliation from the government unless you are a military deserter or other type of "spoken for" person.

Thirdly, Canada has a long history of extradition of US criminals and suspects etc so this represents a drastic change in policy.

Fourthly, the US/Canadian border is about as open as it gets, there's never been an issue with citizens of either country going either direction for any reason.

You really need to ask yourself, why would they need to pass a law like this?

If they Canadians are ill equipped to enforce a shoot on site policy, who do you think they'd outsource it to?

All excellent points! There would have to be "drastic changes" indeed considering:

For over two years now, AWOL U.S. soldiers, sailors, and marines have been arriving in Canada, most of them after receiving orders to deploy (or re-deploy) to the Iraq War. So far, not one of them has been deported to the U.S. There are as many as 200 or more AWOL U.S. military personnel in Canada today, according to the War Resisters Support Campaign.

source

The 23-year-old from Colorado Springs, Colo., had trained as an engineer with the 94th Corps of Engineers, but he said he was put on patrol when he got to Iraq in 2004, something he said he wasn't trained to do.

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With the Iraq war in its fifth year, an increasing number of American soldiers have been going AWOL and fleeing to Canada, particularly over the last six months.

source

True, some thoughtful responses, but wasn't it Sorcha Faal that reported the imminent US attack on Iran last April. Lots of details about US activity on Diego Garcia atoll, and a tsunami or something?

Anyways, here's an excerpt from one of his previous missives:

"Russian FSB sources are reporting today that an attempt by Special Forces Troops of the United States Military to arrest the American Vice President Cheney shortly after boarding his official plane in Australia has resulted in at least 3 dead and an unknown number of wounded."

I think we can rest easy about this one...I hope

Hmm,land of the free,huh?

Until you wish to pop over the border that is...Good God,when did America turn into the Soviet Union?
This should worry everyone.To me this suggests more preparation for a planned"event" which will result in martial law for the USA.
I feel for you all.

edit:I just found out who may be responsible for wanting to shoot US citizens-

"Why would Homeland Security hire former Stasi chief Markus Wolfe and former head of the KGB General Yevgeni Primakov?

Is this part of the Bush anti-terror strategy? After all, Wolfe is the man who is credited with building up the feared East German secret police that was responsible for the disappearance and deaths of thousands of citizens. And, Primakov’s record is not any better. As skipper of the KGB he was driving force behind the machinery of state terror; a legacy that still has a chilling affect on many Russians."

www.dissidentvoice.org...

Who better to "protect" the Land of the free than EX KGB and Stasi Heads...Good grief,you couldn`t make it up could you?

[edit on 21-8-2007 by Silcone Synapse]

Originally posted by OBE1
True, some thoughtful responses, but wasn't it Sorcha Faal that reported the imminent US attack on Iran last April. Lots of details about US activity on Diego Garcia atoll, and a tsunami or something?

Anyways, here's an excerpt from one of his previous missives:

"Russian FSB sources are reporting today that an attempt by Special Forces Troops of the United States Military to arrest the American Vice President Cheney shortly after boarding his official plane in Australia has resulted in at least 3 dead and an unknown number of wounded."

I think we can rest easy about this one...I hope

Ah,well spotted its Sorcha Faal-is that even a real person?Probably another crock of you know what...I hope so.
Anyone know if the Markus Wolf guy is really working for homeland security?Thats pretty scary itself if its true.

So they want to shoot us if we go into Canada, wonderful, now can we also pass a law that states croked politicians get shot on sight (In the US) as well? whats good for the Goose........... I would support this whole heartedly

this sounds odd to me considering that the NAU is gonna make us all good friends anyway. i call BS.

Originally posted by PontiacWarrior
I don't know how most Americans stand on the issue of our borders, but my father is all for "if you shoot a couple each day, I guarantee they will stop coming over!" A little harsh yes but we are in a time of war. Can they not use the same tech and security at our borders as they do in Groom lake, Nevada?

Did your Father really say that?

Jesus... Guess he's not a Christian then? How would you feel if somebody employed the same quote on the opposite side of the border and your family had to flee? Seeing them shot down just because of some 'gung ho' saying...

Thumbs down for you buddy.

Originally posted by pieman
so you guys think us citizens should be able to cross the border to canada illegally then? wouldn't the canadians just be using the same tactics the us uses at its southern borders?

Are we able to shoot-to-kill illegals now, as a US policy?

Last I checked we weren't allowed to, and the two border guards that did fend off illegal immigrant drug runners with an exchange of fire ended up in jail for 11-12 years.

The Mexican drug runner whose testimony sent two Border Patrol agents to prison for shooting him in the buttocks brought drugs into the United States more than once, thereby diminishing his credibility as a witness in the investigation, according to a California congressman.

FOX news

Hate to quote FOX but I agree on this one.

its seems like this has to do with the "North American Union" (US is no longer a country, rather part of a the union including Mexico and Canada, similar to the European union, in a bit we will start to use universal currency similar to the European union. This event was almost entirely ignored in the media, lol.) I think this is a first in many other laws to come involving Canada and Mexico.

"Escape from America" It sounds like a nice addition to the Snake Plisskin series. Snake versus thirty-nine border guards? No competition.

What exactly would we Americans be escaping from?

Caveat Emptor




The quake never happened...the tsunami never happened...and I doubt that our North American borders have been declared free-fire zones.

reply to post by Silcone Synapse

Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
Anyone know if the Markus Wolf guy is really working for homeland security?Thats pretty scary itself if its true.

Well, that would be a real trick since he is dead dead dead!!

You people crack me up!

Its funny because if our border agents shoot an illegal Mexican trying to cross he goes to jail for murder. We are not allowed to do anything to stop illegals from coming, but now we get shot for trying to leave.

I can't believe...

That it wasn't until the second page that Sorcha Faal was identified as the author of the article... I read the histrionics that ensued from the OP and I can't help but wonder what the reaction will be when a real conspiracy is exposed... My bet is nothing... We've obviously lost our ability to differentiate fact from fiction...

:shk:

Does anyone ever doubt the source anymore or do we just all believe what is written on the Internet if it is what we want to believe?

Anyway, I wouldn't be too worried about agents shooting at Americans. We have lots of guns. We will shoot back.

Originally posted by thedigirati
So they want to shoot us if we go into Canada, wonderful, now can we also pass a law that states croked politicians get shot on sight (In the US) as well? whats good for the Goose........... I would support this whole heartedly

sign me up id support that law

but no seriousley if this has any wieght to it....and with the current trend in us policies i dont see why it wouldnt....then id suggest to yall to do what i did and get you a passport...or renew your passports and be prepared to travel quick....but thats just my opinion..

I can't help but wonder what the reaction will be when a real conspiracy is exposed...

Exactly, this thought crosses my mind often. I have never heard of Sorcha Faal before, the question that comes to mind is why?

What do people like this hope to gain by spreading disinformation on the net?
Confusion?

Keep us confused and unable to tell fact from fiction,

How about trust?

Have us distrust our own?

The house divided against itself that cannot stand?



[edit on 21-8-2007 by Stormdancer777]

Originally posted by pieman
so you guys think us citizens should be able to cross the border to canada illegally then? wouldn't the canadians just be using the same tactics the us uses at its southern borders?

There's a big difference between being found guilty and tried in a court of law for doing something illegal and being shot on site. How about all the illegal Mexicans in this country? Should we start going around to all of them with a 9mm and execute them? Alberto Gonzales is out of control. This is just one more step towards a complete takeover by a fascist regime, if this story holds water.

[edit on 8/21/2007 by pjslug]