Astral projection anyone?

I have been reading a lot on astral projection and i believe that it is very much possible and can barely grasp the concept. My religion also verifies that it is in fact real but warns to stay out of it for it is only evil...by the way i am a christian. well technically they do not talk about obe but about spirits and communicating with spirits and so forth. I was wanting to know if anyone could explain to me how to do this and also if there are any precautions i should take before attempting it. i have been feeling lately like there is something i am supposed to do, like something is pulling at me, but im not sure..lately i have been seeing the same numbers all the time on the clock, on license plates and such and have come to find out that it means the end of something and the beginning of something else and i feel that it may be the enlightenment people talk about finding with astral projection. please let me know what you think. Thank you

I recommend the book "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce. It helped me achieve my first projection, and many subsequent ones. I find the more I achieve, the better, longer, and more memorable they become.

I didn't have much faith in it at first either, but I read a lot of convincing things about them and believe that gave me the right frame of mind to "get" my first projection.

time4chg07, Not everything people tell you is the truth..

I cant wait till you find out the people who tell you that some things are evil are in fact the ones who are most delusional.

As for Astral projection I have done it 1 time. It lasted only a few seconds. It was an interesting and very real exp.

There is a post here..

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

That you should look thru.

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dont even try that, cuz it doesnt work, i have spend time witht he subject and nothing really nothing, i think u should have a big imagination to believe such thing,if u wanna try it do it, dont listen to ur religion they dont know s--- no offence.

try it and found out for urself.

sorry for the doucble post please delete this


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sorry for the double post, somebody please delete this

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woah triple post!! Maybe it didn't work for you but it works for someone else. I will never be able to do it, cause i can never get into a relaxed enough state.

Originally posted by hikix
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woah triple post!! Maybe it didn't work for you but it works for someone else. I will never be able to do it, cause i can never get into a relaxed enough state.

yeah i know, i can never get relaxed too, sorry if i offended anyone, i know if i cant do it doest mean it is impossible, i should explain better next time

sorry about the triple post

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I can tell you right now that Astral Projection is not evil at all. I am Christian myself, and I waited a long time before I actually did Astrally Project, but I still did it, and I feel that it was an experience from God.

And like what some one said on here, if you hear someone say that this and this is evil, actually look it up in the bible, and then decide if they are wrong or not.
Christians calling things evil is just sometimes they think it's evil because
they know nothing about it.

But, If it makes you more comfortable, pray to God about it, and keep an open mind.

Ok, a little warning and tip here.

When experiment with Astral Projection, or out of body experience. (Both are not the same btw). Always! before actually practicing it, ask god/ your guide/ or whatever you call him/her/it, to protect your body and for getting you back to your body if going out for a little journey.

Why? A little explanation.

With Astral Projection your spirit/soul will get pictures from somewhere else to the place you are at that moment, your spirit/soul will not leave the body. This isnt that dangerous. Just be aware to dont do it to often, you have to live a normal live too! dont forget that

Out of body experience is somewhat more dangerous. Not everyone is allowed to do it in the first place. But there is always a chance you will go there when doing an Astral projection for example. When experiment, anything can happen!...
It's here your guides/god/ or whatever you want to the name them, are beside you to assist you. However: Maybe you think they are always around and will be there automatically, this is not the case, they are always around, but NOT ALWAYS very close. And it can happen, you are going out alone... (you wont want that to happen )

So, be sure you take it serious and just take some time to ask for help.

Ok...as you see, english is not my native language. I just hope you understand me

greatings Lunica

Where the hell do you come up with this information?

Astral Projection and Out of body experiences are the same.. What are you crazy??

AP is when you leave your body, OoBE is also when you leave your body.

Who ever told you differently is wrong.

When you have an NDE you into OOBE. When you die you go to the astral plane and from there you decide what you want to do..

Like reincarnate go to higher learning stuff like that.

I want you to back up your sources on how AP/OOBE is dangerous. There is not 1 case I have ever read that ever resorted into something bad.

And yes I have been studying AP/OOBE for a while now.. its what I actually base my religion off of.

Well, if have experience in both. And there is a difference. If you want to believe it or not. Books are written by people with their understanding of it. I know this info is not well known by much. So, just take it as new extra information, or ignore it. Thats your choice.
I talk to higher spirits about this (my guids for instance) (I am not going to proof this, can I? , so lets leave that discussion before we started one. )

Its serious business. I know cases of people who are psychical not the same as before. Its possible to get lost when being out of your body (will not happen that easy though). If it happends, the body will likely die or another soul will take the place (looks science fiction, but it happends).

BUT!
My post is just for ONE reason. Just be aware of it! and ask for some help before starting your experiments. Why not doing it
Maybe you dont believe me, thats not a problem, everybody has his own opinion, and has to be respect.

Greetings Lunica

edit: typo's and grammar.
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Astral projection is: project to yourself what you want to see. INformation is coming to you.
Out of body experience, and see things. You are actually at the place you want to be and see the things their.
In many books they ar explained as the same. They are not.
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That part of another soul (?) is inhibiting the body, do you mean a possession like situation?

I will let you dig your own hole..

I will state this. it is impossible to die while having an OOBE or AP exp. reason is because there is a silver cord attacked to you at all times. It has been documented in people who have Ap'ed and OOBE'd.

your body can not be taken from you.. IT IS YOUR BODY...

Your definition of AP means remote viewing. Sorry to say.

All the other crap you said is well just that crap..

I asked for sources for the things you have said I would like to see them..

Cause frankly this is the 1st time in god knows how long I have seen such garbage about AP.. usually its people saying you will go to hell or something...

I am finished talking to you until you get sources of the stuff you have said..

And OP Don't listen to him.. OOBE/AP isn't bad, its a nice learning exp. A lot of people who have done it will tell you the same thing..

The biggest problem is you wanting to do it and concentrating on it. That's why they say the best time to do it is when you are very young and old..

Ya there... A kid can AP all the time.. I don't see demons taking them.. or old people for that matter..

The best way to AP/OOBE is to let it sneak up on you... Think about it constantly and what not.. and 1 night it will happen..

That's how it worked for me...

@ThichHeaded
1. I dont say its bad. Its just serious business
2. That we have different oppinions about it, I expected that. Where you dont respect my opinion, I do respect yours.
3. Let me say it in this way, there are just two kinds of doing the "thing". You like to call them the same. I dont.
4. We are connected to our body. And you stay connected. But there is a point, you dont not WANT to get back. The surroundings their are much better then here on earth. Maybe you are not dead at that moment, it doesn't help staying alive, isn't it? Its rather difficult to explain to you why its dangerous when you are alone at that place, instead of being guided (consious or unconsious) by guids.
Try to dig some further yourself, you will find some related stuff about it... Your choice

You say this is garbage and crap ( I like those smoothly chosen words)
Well, when telling such makes you the most credible in this? I doubt it. Try to be openminded.

You really dont know everything about it. You want to get proof of anything I guess, by naming some books for example. I wont do that. My info is coming from my own experiences, from my guids, from some very well trained and gifted people in this. I dont know everything too
But lets stop to discuss this indeed. Let us ignore eachother?

@kickass
Yes, thats possible. Only when your guids are not aware of you going out of your body.( I will say again: This will not happen that easy and often )
But there are situations where this is possible. For instance:
-When you are developped in it good enough to "take of" in a view seconds. -Guids are not always in your direct surroundings and not aware of what you doing. (when being at rest for instance)
-Another entity is in the neighbourhood...etc...

This is my experience and knowledge of it. Maybe you have another opinion?

Greetings Lunica

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Over twenty years ago whilst I was practising deep meditation techniques I inadvertently found that I could astral travel.

First you have to quieten the mind and purge it of all distracting thoughts. Then when deep in this state, just directing your thoughts to the subject will be enough for your consciousness to leave the body and go to where you are thinking about. In my experience I was able to direct my consciousness around rooms and explore through a house which I had never been in before.

The second time I was slumbering and about to wake up when I realised I was descending to my house from high above. I passed through the roof into my bedroom and saw myself lying in bed. At the point when i rejoined my body there was quite a jolt, but i was consciously aware throughout. It was weird.

I differ with the above suggestion and believe that AP and remote viewing are pretty much the same thing.

I also believe you have to train the mind to do this stuff.

Lunica,
You are spaking about "guides". I assume with this that you have some sort of Astral guides? From what you say it sounds like these entities actually guard your body against possesion?

And you mention "another entity" in the neighbourhood...would this be some kind of demon you mean or another spirit or what?

How do you know this btw? Have you encounter this yourself?

// ka

Originally posted by kickass
Lunica,
You are spaking about "guides". I assume with this that you have some sort of Astral guides? From what you say it sounds like these entities actually guard your body against possesion?

Yes I have astral guids, like you, like everybody. I am lucky to have contact with them. They indeed guard your body in these cases, thats why it almost never goes wrong in any case.

And you mention "another entity" in the neighbourhood...would this be some kind of demon you mean or another spirit or what?

Demon or spirit or entity (its more or less the same) can be a soul who has died, but never got it / wanted to the light. But rather stays here between life and dead. Such an entity could slip into your soul when not protected. But this only can and will happen in extraordinary circumstances as I explained before. But its one of the reasons I always ask my guids, you can do it too when not actually know your guids, to protect the body and give them a signal so they are aware of my plans.

How do you know this btw? Have you encounter this yourself?

Yes, different kinds of experiences. Like we all have different expreciences (so, there will always be difference to argue about, OR to learn! ).
Also a lot of things about the "surroundings" where these encounters are hapenning in, like the rules etc... has been told to me by my guids. (I hope you understand this).


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Something else. Maybe I make myself more clear by saying this.
Astral projection (to project things of another place) and remote viewing are more or less the same for me. Not exactly though Its depends on the viewer how he/she gets his/her information. But in these case the soul will not leave the body. hehe (there we are again)
An out of body experience (maybe you refer to this by saying astral projection?), I would say astral traveling , is a far more serious encounter. When you are trained well, and if allowed (oh yes, they will stop you when not allowed. Also there will be in most cases restrictions too how far and where you go) you can go to explore.
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There's a lot of misinformation in this thread regarding AP and OOBE. The book I suggested explains a lot of this away, and also goes a long way to prove that AP/OOBE is not dangerous in any way whatsoever. You don't physically "leave" anything, therefore, nothing can "take" your "empty" body, cos it's not really empty. Robert Bruce has done a lot of research in this area, and it's in many of his books for anyone to read up on.

It's kind of like a split mind thing - which can be observed when having a conscious projection - it's hard to imagine but you can have 2 consciousnesses at once, in parallel. There is no danger of not being able to get "back" or anything like that. Nor has there been any recorded incident of this.

Originally posted by adjay
There's a lot of misinformation in this thread regarding AP and OOBE. The book I suggested explains a lot of this away, and also goes a long way to prove that AP/OOBE is not dangerous in any way whatsoever. You don't physically "leave" anything, therefore, nothing can "take" your "empty" body, cos it's not really empty. Robert Bruce has done a lot of research in this area, and it's in many of his books for anyone to read up on.

This is what I mean with an Astral Projection or remote viewing or OOBE in his point of view.
A real out of body experience when your soul leaves your body... Well, then you really leave your body I call it Astral traveling.
If Robert Bruce states here that this cant be done, or is not happening, he does not know the right things about it.
I am not saying he is not correct in everyhting. But about this certain subject I state he is incorrect. And even he can be wrong...

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