So when will the fight against the Tyrant in America begin?

Yes....You heard me.

America only needs one more planned terrorist attack...major one at that....to go into Martial Law.

Then all your constitutions which are being slowly taken away from you, and you still do nothing, will all be taken away from you, and you will be able to do nothing.

America will turn into a Police State as when Hitler siezed power.

The Allies during world war 2 were fighting against Tyranny (is that how u spell it?). Hwell i just finished watching Saving Private Ryan and how they are ridding the world of Tyranny.

Well sorry to say it America....But very soon, Tyranny is going to be showing up right in your home.

Will the rest of the world have to fight against America in the future to rid the World of it's Tyranny?

Does the rest of the world have a chance?

Was Hitler following orders from someone above him? People above him? Creating a super power inthe middle of Europe and then seizing control of Europe, only to be stopped and destroyed. Was Germany not strong enough back then?

Have these same sort of people, same sort of groups, with the same direction, controlling the leaders of America. Controlling how thigns are to be done. Does America have a much better chance of success now that it is the only Superpower left in the world?

Will America achieve the dreams of these power elite?

I'm betting alot of resistance will pop up in America when Martial Law ets declared....But will the citizens of the US be a force to be reckoned with..?

...fight against the Tyrant begin...?

POV: each election cycle, we all seek to purge the

incompetent, tyrannical, inept, uncouth, etc etc
~~

as far as outside forces....the sublime is found even in
todays' FOX & GOOGLE news sources (among others)

like the Japan & European counter to the US forcefulness
...banning American beef for example,,,,the start of not supporting the USD valuation...both Israel & US support of Israeli actions are really beginning to unravel the western (former?) allies...ETC
ETC

the Bush Doctrine is alienating America from the world community....rightly or wrongly....your the judge on that

also, i personally dont think that it will take another organized attack on US soil to enact a marshall law....
it only takes the preception of a willfully destructive enemy...that can cause that action to be implemented.

DaRAGE...protect yourself, first...
so you can be around to help pick up the pieces.

~$~

The problem with a totalatarian US or Red America is...

That Americans are prone to rebelion throughout its history and to overtly control the US without the people's concent is such a burdon that this theoretical tyrant wouldnt be able to keep contol for long. My theory is that only you can control the US through election or covertly, which covertly you need to have hundreds of years of influence to realy control us.

So when will the fight against the Tyrant in America begin?


Answer, soon after she is elected.

Lol

You saying people would acculy vote for Clinton for Prez?

[Edited on 15-1-2004 by Taxman]

Originally posted by riffraffalunas
...fight against the Tyrant begin...?

POV: each election cycle, we all seek to purge the

incompetent, tyrannical, inept, uncouth, etc etc
~~

as far as outside forces....the sublime is found even in
todays' FOX & GOOGLE news sources (among others)

like the Japan & European counter to the US forcefulness
...banning American beef for example,,,,the start of not supporting the USD valuation...both Israel & US support of Israeli actions are really beginning to unravel the western (former?) allies...ETC
ETC

the Bush Doctrine is alienating America from the world community....rightly or wrongly....your the judge on that

also, i personally dont think that it will take another organized attack on US soil to enact a marshall law....
it only takes the preception of a willfully destructive enemy...that can cause that action to be implemented.

DaRAGE...protect yourself, first...
so you can be around to help pick up the pieces.

~$~

The thing is that America is in control by the Powerful Elite. The people behind the scenes controlling Bush, controlling the political parties. It matters not what party you vote for, nor what person. the elitist influence over these figures will keep control. IF something starts not going their way, they will simply make another threat pop up, such as by a terrorist attack and then blame it on someone or some country, take more rights from the civilians, and turn the USA into more of an Country prepared to go dto war, more forces will be gathered via military service act, or whatever.

If you cannot see all the biils, acts, being signed in secrecy, being pessed without major or hardly any word in the mainstream news, then you are a fool.

Rebel? Who will be left to rebel once the US becomes a police state? It will just be like in Germany back when hitler came to power. A POLICE STATE. Those that are rebelious will be put into jail, concentration camps, whatever. You must realise that once martial law is initiated. Once the US becomes a police state, you as a citizen have no rights. Those that rebel and fight back are either killed or taken away and locked up without review.

A typical view of what America is to become is what happened in Germany when Hitlet came to power.

It's like this.

You're with the Government, or you're locked up, or dead.
Like Bush said. You're either with US or against US.
When a citizens rights get flushed down the toilet, one must act straight away or more get taken away. American Citizens rights are being taken away from them left right and centre.
What makes a citizen worth less than those that govern them? Those elected by them?
Nothing. Yet it's those elected that are taking the rights of the citizen away.

When the people that govern the people start doing that, it become tyrannical. It becomes a dictatorship soon enough.

Because if the dictator says something, it is done, if it is not, the dictator becomes mad and throws ur ass in jail for not doing it. Why? Because he has the right to and you dont have any rights left at all.

Who would police the police state? The military for the most part wont nor will the Federal agents or the PDs of Ameica? They are all too Freedom loving and most Americans will fight to end a police state.

then why are u letting ur rights be taken away from u right under ur nose?

Your talking about the Patriot Act? Congress did that, not the PD, Feds or Military. Pat Act is a good idea to a point. I like it for the most part. Yes theres things that the political scientists (oxymoran?) in DC should of put in as a safe guard.

i'm not talking about the Patriot act. Yes that's one act. But over the last few months i've read of all these bills, act which invade ur privacy, say goodbye ur ur constitutional rights, losing ur amendments, etc.

These acts are needed for defence of our nation, I rather to have more freedoms but I dont want a 9/11 again! Im not suggesting a police state but for the most part I dont see whats wrong with some of these proposals (indeed there are some that I absolutly disagree with).

One thing that comes to mind here is that the populace of the US is armed to the teeth. The average rural farmer is probably better armed in fact than most police forces. And the inner-city? lots of automatic weapons in that urban environment...

There are 3 or 4 guns for every man, woman and child in the US (population 288 million+)
The citizens rebel? yes I think so... The police stop them?
I think not.
The military stop them?
They can't stop insurgency in Iraq - stop large scale domestic revolt?
puleeeeease....
Plus the armed forces have families back home too - don't count on them putting down a large scale insurection with their sisters and brothers, mothers and fathers behind that AK, SKS, Uzi or AR.

Originally posted by intelgurl
One thing that comes to mind here is that the populace of the US is armed to the teeth. The average rural farmer is probably better armed in fact than most police forces. And the inner-city? lots of automatic weapons in that urban environment...

There are 3 or 4 guns for every man, woman and child in the US (population 288 million+)
The citizens rebel? yes I think so... The police stop them?
I think not.
The military stop them?
They can't stop insurgency in Iraq - stop large scale domestic revolt?
puleeeeease....
Plus the armed forces have families back home too - don't count on them putting down a large scale insurection with their sisters and brothers, mothers and fathers behind that AK, SKS, Uzi or AR.

Isn't that why there are supposedly already armed forces from other countries within the US at this point in time?

Thank you, my point exactly IntelGurl.

DaRage, in any country there are foregin spys, sabitours, and other things.

Thank you, my point exactly IntelGurl.

DaRage, in any country there are foregin spys, sabitours, and other things.

wow! that Taxman reply was in stereo!
COOL!

Originally posted by Taxman
Thank you, my point exactly IntelGurl.

DaRage, in any country there are foregin spys, sabitours, and other things.

'm not talking about the spy's, sabotouers, etc.
I'm talking about Troops. Training with US troops.

I suggest you check out this website:
And you will also see how ur fourth amendment was taken away from u.
www.infowars.com...

I think we goto them DaRage. Wargames they come to us but otherwise we goto them.

heck I have more guns in my closet than they could deal with