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Russians Hoax North Pole Underwater Footage!!
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Russians Hoax North Pole Underwater Footage!!
www.hindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Unearthly blue lights played across the ocean floor two and half miles below the north pole as the heroic Russian explorers descended in mini submarines to plant a metre-high flag.
At least that’s what the Russian state television company Rossiya wanted us to believe. The truth was rather different.
In an apparent attempt to “sex up” a news programme, the TV station has been caught passing off footage from the 1997 Hollywood blockbuster Titanic as a real life report on the Kremlin’s recent attempt to stake its claim to the riches of the Arctic Ocean.
It seems the race for the North Pole has reached alarming proportions! Imagine the gall of the Russians for fudging the much publicized planting of
the Russian flag two and a half miles under the North Pole with the help of their mini subs. A titanic hoax if ever there was one!
www.hindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
www.hindu.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Is this for real? how credible is this story? Have the "real" news outlets reported anything yet?
Well the report is originally from the UK Guardian:
www.guardian.co.uk...
They are left-wing biased, but I think it's a basically reliable paper on the facts. Maybe our British members can say more.
www.guardian.co.uk...
They are left-wing biased, but I think it's a basically reliable paper on the facts. Maybe our British members can say more.
Good find. We'll see if there's any further mention of this. If it is true it's pretty pathetic. Can't be true, can it?
Thats.....so completely rediculous. I mean, i could understand it if they claimed to be too broke to film it and used a title like "in this
reproduction of the event", but seriously...
I will await judgement on the source, though.
I will await judgement on the source, though.
If I had to bet, I'd say this is an accurate report.
Very good catch!!!
Very good catch!!!
Originally posted by Corbin Dalus
Is this for real? how credible is this story? Have the "real" news outlets reported anything yet?
Here's more..
The Hoax: It's a 20th Century Fox Photo!
Short of real footage to corroborate its news story about Russia’s recent attempts to stake an underwater claim to the deep sea depths of the Arctic Ocean, state television broadcaster Rossiya did the next best thing; they filched footage from the King of the World. Their presentation of opening scene submarine footage from Titanic as 2007 expedition travelogue made old and new media headlines, until a faraway film fan set the record straight.
www.filmstew.com...
The Russians wouldnt be stupid enough, to use footage from the titanic, a 'blockbusting, record breaking film'
How hard would it be anyways?
A Sub, some men, and an electronic arm... If they can put a man in space, build nuclear weapons.. im pretty sure they would have the ability to put a flag at the bottom, or create their 'own' faked footage.
How hard would it be anyways?
A Sub, some men, and an electronic arm... If they can put a man in space, build nuclear weapons.. im pretty sure they would have the ability to put a flag at the bottom, or create their 'own' faked footage.
If they were gonna use fake footage dont you think they would use less subtle footage.....i dont believe a word of this report, sorry
Story seems to have taken a twist since I first saw it on the 10th:
Reuters gets that sinking feeling
Reuters has admitted that it took the images from Russian state television channel RTR and wrongly captioned them as file footage originating from the Arctic.
RTR had also used the footage to illustrate stories about the North Pole expedition, but it is thought as library footage, and it never claimed it was actually of the flag-planting.
The pictures were first broadcast by RTR when the Russians were still several hours away from the North Pole.
Reuters distributed a package of clips that included the scenes from Titanic, alongside computer animations and footage of ships on the surface at the North Pole.
In its piece on the subject, two of the four Reuters pictures were from the Titanic filming.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
Jak
Reuters gets that sinking feeling
Reuters has admitted that it took the images from Russian state television channel RTR and wrongly captioned them as file footage originating from the Arctic.
RTR had also used the footage to illustrate stories about the North Pole expedition, but it is thought as library footage, and it never claimed it was actually of the flag-planting.
The pictures were first broadcast by RTR when the Russians were still several hours away from the North Pole.
Reuters distributed a package of clips that included the scenes from Titanic, alongside computer animations and footage of ships on the surface at the North Pole.
In its piece on the subject, two of the four Reuters pictures were from the Titanic filming.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
Jak
Damned! These guys should be sued. They should have at least mentioned that those clips were from the Titanic. Were they trying to hoodwink the
public? I can't believe Reuters can screw up like this! The lengths that some go to for increased 'TRP' ratings!
Fume!
Fume!
What could be interesting is that both versions of the story appear on The Guardian site (and elsewhere?) yet seem to report very different
stories.
Yesterday it seemed even Reuters felt they were the ones at fault going so far as to apologise and 'promised to tighten up its controls on material being put out in its name.' Today it is the fault of evil propaganda machine Russian state television company Rossiya.
That's a big change in story.
Jak
[edit on 12/8/07 by JAK]
Yesterday it seemed even Reuters felt they were the ones at fault going so far as to apologise and 'promised to tighten up its controls on material being put out in its name.' Today it is the fault of evil propaganda machine Russian state television company Rossiya.
That's a big change in story.
Jak
[edit on 12/8/07 by JAK]
Read the article.It was one news station trying to get veiwers.Jeeze its not like putin ordered this to be shown across the country.Its like your
local news faking footage,this does not represent goverment and was the workings of the news team....
Just because this article says the station is a propaganda station for the Russian president does not mean it is true.They could be biase towards that station and such.Any other links showing it is a state run news station?
[edit on 12-8-2007 by Project_Silo]
Just because this article says the station is a propaganda station for the Russian president does not mean it is true.They could be biase towards that station and such.Any other links showing it is a state run news station?
[edit on 12-8-2007 by Project_Silo]
Which version:
First report: Reuters apologetic over mistake.
Second report: Reuters apoplectic over lies.
Ok, maybe a little creative with the link titles there but wouldn't Reuters have to be pretty certain they held responsibility to come out and apologise as it reads in the first version of the story? Was the initial Guardian report a mistake? Are Reuters trying to shirk blame? Are we supposed to be laughing at the silly Russian propaganda that even a child can see through?
From the first:
From the second:
Jak
[edit on 12/8/07 by JAK]
First report: Reuters apologetic over mistake.
Second report: Reuters apoplectic over lies.
Ok, maybe a little creative with the link titles there but wouldn't Reuters have to be pretty certain they held responsibility to come out and apologise as it reads in the first version of the story? Was the initial Guardian report a mistake? Are Reuters trying to shirk blame? Are we supposed to be laughing at the silly Russian propaganda that even a child can see through?
From the first:
"On August 2, 2007 in a TV story about two Russian submersibles planting a flag on the seabed under the North Pole, we (Reuters) used file shots of MIR submersibles as part of this story... "
RTR had also used the footage to illustrate stories about the North Pole expedition, but it is thought as library footage, and it never claimed it was actually of the flag-planting.
From the second:
...At least that's what the Russian state television company Rossiya wanted us to believe. The truth was rather different.
In an apparent attempt to "sex up" a news programme, the TV station has been caught passing off footage from the 1997 Hollywood blockbuster Titanic as a real life report
Jak
[edit on 12/8/07 by JAK]
Yes, JAK is completely right. There are two distinct versions of the story out there.
I'm not sure we'll ever know the full story.
I'm not sure we'll ever know the full story.
I've emailed The Guardian asking why there appears to be such discrepencies in their reporting of the event.
Jak
Jak
It was actually 13-year old Finnish kid who noticed this. There was also questions of the authencity of the footage because it was filmed from a 3rd
sub and russians said that there was only 2 of them down there.
I'd usually consider the Guardian as a reliable source. Our newspapers might over-exaggerate to meet their own agendas, but their base facts are
always the truth, and they're too closely monitored to completely fabricate a news story. I eagerly await a reply to JAK's email, but I'd be
surprised if he gets one
I've been digging around on this one over the last hour, and it looks like the Russians have clearly fudged this one...Maybe they studied Apollo 11
??
Anywho, I firmly believe the Arctic region should be subject to a treaty as far as its resources go, and they should be evenly divided amongst the states who lay claim to the area
Peace
Anywho, I firmly believe the Arctic region should be subject to a treaty as far as its resources go, and they should be evenly divided amongst the states who lay claim to the area
Peace
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