More Masonic symbols. Deniable or undeniable?

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Check out the old Dodge Bros logo on the belt buckle worn from 1914 to 1927 and then the Fratzog logo from 1962 to 1976.

So does the pentagram supposed to represent the perfect man or man and woman or what?

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Mecedez Benz, a division of Daimler Chrysler. Notice the triangular shaped pattern with the three lines i the middle pointing inadvertantly the other way. Again, I'm not saying anything, just pointing stuff out.

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So does the pentagram supposed to represent the perfect man or man and woman or what?

It has several different meanings. It is primarily an elemental symbol, with each point representing one of the four elements, and the upmost point representing Spirit, that substance from which the four material elements are derived. When turned upside down it is considered "evil" because in that position it represents matter dominating spirit. Since, when upside down, it resembles a goat's head, it refers to the Greek god Pan, who in turn represents man's animal instincts. When turned upright, it represents the Christos and the Microcosm, man's aspiration to the higher.

"It has several different meanings. It is primarily an elemental symbol, with each point representing one of the four elements, and the upmost point representing Spirit, that substance from which the four material elements are derived. When turned upside down it is considered "evil" because in that position it represents matter dominating spirit. Since, when upside down, it resembles a goat's head, it refers to the Greek god Pan, who in turn represents man's animal instincts. When turned upright, it represents the Christos and the Microcosm, man's aspiration to the higher."

Thank you.

Originally posted by spirit7
Check out the old Dodge Bros logo on the belt buckle worn from 1914 to 1927 and then the Fratzog logo from 1962 to 1976.

About the Dodge Brothers Logo

What's the meaning behind the Dodge Brothers emblem?
Unfortunately, John and Horace Dodge died before they publically told anyone how they arrived at this symbol. If any family members knew the reasons behind this, nothing was ever revealed or discovered. Apparently no one thought to ask them!
Among the possibilities:
1. These are two interlocking Greek letter "deltas" or "D s" for the two Dodge brothers
2. A midieval symbol of mysticism and the joining of mind and body, also possibly the joining of two brothers, who were known to be personally very close, in this business venture.
3. An abstraction of the square and compass of the Freemasons.
4. Nothing more or less than a badge with six pointed star similar to those used for law-enforcement officer's badges, some outlined with triangles. Sheriff, Marshall, and police badges frequently were and are six pointed stars. The old-west Dodge City badge had six points. Horace Dodge was said to enjoy accompanying local law-enforcement officers on their runs.
5. There are other instances of a company 'logo" selected for no particular deep meaning other than that it suited the fancy of those who selected it. The Chevrolet "bowtie" is a classic example, as it was copied from the wall paper of a hotel room.
6. At the time the emblem was selected (most likely 1912-1914) it's likely that the Dodge brothers were unaware of its use in Judiasm. In fact, at this time, that symbol was not used universally in this context.
Rumors that are wrong include:
1. They chose the "Star of David" as a Jewish symbol to anger Henry Ford.
Fact: The brothers were actually friends with Ford at the time the time the emblem was selected. They were business partners with Ford and even were guests at Edsel Ford's wedding.
2. They chose the "Star of David" as a Jewish symbol to appease Jewish bankers who financed the business.
Fact: There were no outside investors.
3. The Dodge Brothers were Jewish
Fact: They were not.

Source: The Dodge Brothers car club FAQ

On the Pentastar

The Pentastar was created in 1962 when Chrysler Corporation President Lynn Townsend decided the company needed a new symbol to represent all of the Corporation’s brands.

Townsend wanted a symbol with a strong, classic look that would be instantly recognisable, but was universal — without written words — allowing it to be used in all countries and across many cultures.
“He was really bothered by the fact that there was no corporate identity program that made the Chrysler dealerships in a town stand out. And so he embarked on an effort to tie all these dealerships together in some readily identifiable manner, so that wherever you were, no matter what town it was, the Chrysler dealership would stand out,” said Barry Dressel, Manager – Walter P. Chrysler Museum and Heritage Communications, Chrysler.

The Pentastar was selected from more than 800 suggestions that a team from the design firm Lippincott & Margulies Inc. proposed to the company.
“We were looking for something that would not be too complicated for people to remember and still have a very strong engineered look to it,” said Robert Stanley, the Detroit office vice president and Chrysler account executive at Lippincott & Margulies, who is credited with creating the Pentastar. “We wanted something people could look at and say, ‘This was not done freehand’.’”

Stanley also created the former blue color scheme for the symbol, and the name for the design. Contrary to popular belief, the five-pointed star does not represent the five Chrysler brands that were in existence at the time - Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth, Imperial and the HVAC division Airtemp.

Source: cqextra.com.au story on the return of the pentastar

You can find more about the logos in Dodge Bros, the men, the motorcars, the legacy by Charles K. Hyde. Wayne State University Press

Good find guys, undeniable.

Just wondering....What came first? The Ramhead symbol,Or the name of the truck

I think their main logo is more creepy than the supposedly 'masonic' logos