Does space end?

Yes, space ends when there is nobody thinking about space ending.

Space as a distance started when someone thought of it.

When all thinking life forms (that ask that question) die.

Space will end.

The problem lies with understanding. Space & the universe are two entirely different things. The universe is all the matter that occupies space. I do not think the universe has a boundary, because I think matter is always being formed in parts of the universe...some very far & some parts very near.

Space is nothing. Space cannot bend. There is no way in hell nothing bends. Space has no shape. It is the emptiness that the universe sits in. It's nothing. It's forever. I would really like to know where space stops. Where that nothingness stops? What? A big giant wall appears and stops space? LOL Space has no end and it has no beginning. The universe however has many biginnings. I do not think the Big Bang started at 1 place. I think there were many huge explosions throughout space...some happening at the same time as others...some before and after others. Heck, I think a Big Bang may be happening somewhere very far away from here...a distance that is unimagineable by most people.

But, like I said...space has no end. How does nothing end?

Originally posted by DarkSide

Originally posted by fiftyfifty
There is no way to prove a beginning. There is 'some proof' of the big bang but can we be so sure and would that have even been the beginning?

It would be the beginning of it's expansion but not the beginning of it's existance. The big bang theory doesn't say how the universe appeared but only describes a change in state, an evolution of it.

ah... but my attempt to explain it.
Lets start with the law of the conservation of energy. It states that the amount of energy always remains constant, and given that we have energy today, we have always had energy. So... we have that energy. the energy could simply collapse into itself and... BOOOOOOM (big bang)
this big bang brings forth matter. and at first it is all littly sub-atomic particles floating around, but as the universe cools, they gravitate and bond, making the simple atoms, like hydrogen. Hydrogen atoms mass together and stars are born. Inside the stars is thermoneucleosis, where new elements come to be, helium and others, which are ejected by the solar winds. solid material masses and soon giant space rocks are present, they continue to mass, and there are planets.....

sound like a plausible begining to me.

and to stay on topic, I dont believe the universe can end. I beleive so for the simple reason that it doesnt seem likely to just hit a wall at the end.


[edit on 31-12-2007 by zionnerd]

Space swallows itself, recycling energy for new structural arrangement. A writhing electronic hologram.

You know hypercubes? The universe is a hyper klein-bottle.

I believe its never-ending but then again maybe you'll hit a wall if you travel too far

Originally posted by DarkSide
I think space is finite because it had a beginning.

Except that no one can seem to totally agree upon when that was, assuming it ever actually "began"... even studying the Big Bang concept, you still wind up with the question of where the energy singularity originated, which might indicate the whole thing predates itself . .

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Sorry, posted before noting your post . . . you already addressed this . .

Originally posted by NateNute
is it one of those things that give you a head ache

It never ends .. and it gives me a headache to think about it.
Seriously - I tried a meditation on this - and I had to pull back because I briefly touched the infinite and it was extremely frightening to do so.

Space is expanding.

There are theories of multiple universes....3D mebranes.
Sorta like....douhnut shaped.

"does space end" in not a question that can be answered simply.

If you dont believe there are multiple universes then the answer is either
A)it already takes up infinity.
B)It is expanding..and always will.
C)It is expanding...but may collapse in on itself due to the amount of matter inside the universe...
D)or ive even heard another..it is expanding...it will stop...but not collapse.

now....some theories are that When(if)the universe DOES collapse in...it will collapse into a single cosmic point....(such as the beggining of time all over again)
then that small point will go through ANOTHER expansion...rejuvinating the series of life all over again.

Hope this helped!!!!

Does space end? Heh.

Does anyone know what a singularity is?
It's what the big bang started off as. A small SOMETHING. Infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitely whatever-you-can-think-of.

Eventually, that singularity started expanding into what is now the universe. Some think singularities are similar to black holes, some may picture it as a tiny ball full of everything. No one really knows what it is. (This is all theory, by the way.)

So if the singularity from which our universe came from has something like a defined shape, something that would make it so compact, that would mean the universe DOES have an end, in size.

Now, in time. If the universe DOES collapse and everything starts all over again, I still don't think it would be the end of time. Maybe time as WE know it? If you see time as the revolutions of the planets, the solar system, galaxies, then yes, time will have ended and started all over again.

But if you're one to that change is impossible without time, then time will have never stopped. Everything will have been a process of change. Collapse, expansion, collapse, expansion, over and over again.

How about, instead of wondering if space ends, let's wonder if there's space at the end space?

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If there's space at the end of space, then technically that would mean it isn't the end of space.

First ask yourself this.. if space has an end, what's on the other side of it's boundaries?

A reason why I think the speed of light is the Universal limit to which matter can travel is because that's the speed at which the Universe is creating itself. Now that I think about it.. every single galaxy and all this dark matter may seem CLOSE compared to how far the Universe has already expanded if you believe there's a finite amount of matter allotted to us.. but exactly where did the matter come from in the first place?! Ugh.. this crap would drive a normal man to religion, so good thing I'm not normal. And if there IS matter being created.. then I don't know what to think.

Thinking on a smaller scope now, did anybody read this article from a little while ago?

/26hzgr

That's a huge gap of nothing! That could have been home to millions of galaxies, but where are they now? Crazy stuff, I could go on but I think this is enough for one night. Peace!

[edit on 28-1-2008 by BrokenVisage]

In my opinion, space doesn't end. I say this because it grows at an exponential rate. When the right amount of gases and various other particles come together it forces space to continue. Especially when White Holes (opposite of black holes-- meaning that matter comes out of them rather than go into them) i believe that would defitely contribute to space's expansion.

Still even though some of you think that since space had a beginning that it has an end, I believe it doesn't, because it is just like numbers. It's possible to just keep going on and on.

Does a circle end? Where is the end of the earth if you can only go forwards, backwards, left and right?

Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel


whats in the middle of the baloon i hear u all shout.. it dont matter it could be swiss cheese .. we would probably never know.

What intrigues me, is what surrounds space, the universe, the balloon, whats on the outside, if anything?

I had never thought about that.

Although i see a poster above me has already asked this question.

Originally posted by BrokenVisage
First ask yourself this.. if space has an end, what's on the other side of it's boundaries?

Anyone have any idea's?



[edit on 4-9-2008 by Denied]

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Even religion says light gets rid of darkness. Look at it as space fills nothing. Actually outside space is a multiverse apparently now, with Branes of Natural Energy vibrating and creating universes as they touch. I see these Branes as also acting as containers for their space (like north and south pole have fields that create a space) and they interact, give universes which give life and are all contained outwards forever by their interacting fields.

What the so called Universe appears to be and what it actually is, is two entirely different things.

Your Universe is the Result of what produces it, and is Not the mechanism that is producing the image.

It is a bit like your Computers, in that what produces the image on screen, is nothing at all like, what produces the image, on screen.

In fact there is no end, to your Universe, as your universe is Not produced in the way you think it is, nor is there a single universe, but rather each of us have our own, which is a copy of a single program.

More on this later, for those who are prepared to learn...

The Universe so called, is the best produced virtual reality program ever produced by Consciousness or Life, Collectively.

There is No mystery to this it is only humankind or primates that are Not able to see the Universe in its true context and understand how to play in that Universe.

Friendly Regards,

The Matrix Traveller.....



[edit on 5-9-2008 by The Matrix Traveller]

The question is not does space end, but do we just perceive that it goes on forever? It could be manufactured while traversing space, like riding a wave it just keeps on rolling along with you. This is matter and space time manipulation of the highest order if true.