Nuclear attack on America is very(!) imminent

Well. Looks like it ain't happening, unless they are timing it to the moment and it goes off in 4 minutes

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Hiroshima was bombed - it needed to be - and it was JAPANs FAULT that it was.

What a deeply disgusting thing to say. Innocent men, women and children DID NOT deserve to be bombed and to be condemned to death, abnormality and disease for generations to come. How can you even think such a thing?

Yes the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki hastened the end of the war, but by and large the dropping of these bombs was for no greater purpose than to give the new toy a 'live' test.

It was not the fault of the Japanese people that they lived under a regime that kept them in ignorance.

They did not democratically elect THEIR leader.

Concurred. The only reason that Japan was bombed was so that the US could establish itself, beyond a shadow of doubt, as the worlds leading superpower through the use of a blatently genocidal "shock and awe" display. Japan was broken, and was suing for peace before the bombs were dropped, Hiroshima and Nagasaki (which is ALWAYS forgotten, despite the fact that it got the worse bomb) were completely and utterly unnnessecary.

Has it happened yet?

Cant tell you how difficult it is to type whilst hiding under the sheets (lead sheets - people laughed - but i'll show em)

Although worryingly UKTV history has been showing its Hiroshima docu, its a two parter and it just finishing now. Dont read any thing into that, i'm on the basic package and all I get is flippin repeats

i remember someone posting about how when the military does an exercise that it seems to come true......

my base just did an exercise where we were attacked by the post office!!.....be careful when checking your mail!!!!!


p.s. the us had only three confirmed operational bombs....one was tested in nevada....that left two....they rung up japan and was like..."hey, we got a massive bomb, that destroys everything, we want an unconditional surrender"...japan was like..."screw that" so we dropped the first bomb.....and then we call up and say..."we still want an unconditional surrender"...japan says..."ummmmmm.........can we have certian conditions?" and then we dropped another....finnally the us calls up and says..."it's an unconditional surrender or we drop one right there in tokyo...luckly japan went with the bluff....(lucky for both countries)

that is the abbreviated version....i am unsure of how many were in development...and how many were working but much smaller....

[edit on 5-8-2007 by wenfieldsecret]

I remember a post awhile back where President Bush anointed himself as the Insurer of Constitutional Government in Emergency. Posts I read said we were just 1 catastrophe away from dictatorship.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

No telling what the future holds, but it doesn't look good.

well americans never fear, for aslong as u have jack bauer and CTU, suitcase nukes will never pose a threat.

HAAHAHAAAH of course it doesnt happen again. Its not going to happen anytime soon and President Bush is not going to become Dictator.

This i got from my mother. My relatives are driving from Las vegas to Phoenix and they took the route that goes by the Hoover Dam. There were searched there- all vehicles searched and they called to say they didnt know how long it would take to get checked out.
Now, her husband is an Iranian Muslim A jewel of a person, i hope all goes well for him and their family.

Why the heck are they checking all the traffic going over the Hoover Dam?
I worked all day-
Whats up with that???? Anything happen there today???

Originally posted by lawler_09
well americans never fear, for aslong as u have jack bauer and CTU, suitcase nukes will never pose a threat.

So true.

Originally posted by AndrewTB

Originally posted by lawler_09
well americans never fear, for aslong as u have jack bauer and CTU, suitcase nukes will never pose a threat.

So true.

u just know all it takes is for jack to dismantle an armed one with seconds to go and your safe again haha

Originally posted by NGC2736
Actually, if the past were to be an indication of the future, and notice the word IF, then Portland would be unlikely as a target.

One of the reasons cited for all the failures of 9/11 was that certain exercises, removed from the target area, kept the Air Force busy while the events of 9/11 unfolded.

Now using the logic of 9/11, if the majority of the "defensive" measures were being tested in Portland, then another city would be the target. It would need to be a city that would be close enough to have it's defensive measures being used in the Portland drill, yet far enough that those defensive forces could not react in time to stop the catastrophe.

And while any city of reasonable size would qualify, it seems that high profile, reasonably well recognized landmarks are a likely target.

Now I wonder what city fits that profile?

Edit to add: I too greatly doubt that there is any basis to these type of predictions, and are nothing but vague feelings of apprehension.

[edit on 5-8-2007 by NGC2736]

Exactly my thought!
All the drills on 9/11 from Northern Vigilance to Vigilant Guardian [or whatever their names where] extracted the forces from the target area to places like Alaska and Canada. Especially NORAD was confused with all the bleeps on the radars. Of which most "should" be part of the exercise..
It might be Seattle part of the simulation. Still i dont see the same correlation as with 9/11 in this exercise.
Noble resolve is a simulation and a program how to respond after a detonation..Btw both noble resolve 1 and 2 are preparations for a model exercise in October..
I think a real threat are people like Adnan G. El Shukrijumah who are suspected using smuggling routes from mexico for "sensitive" material with or without the help of this ms-13 gang.[but hell this guy has a 5 million bounty on his head]..
here is the video www.youtube.com...
But if they have a nuclear device in the homeland, the only thing form detecting it is hanging geigertellers all around..what distraction of forces would be needed anyhow?
The whole thing lies in the preparation of such an attack, the attack itself could be "unnoticed" with a van parking down town..

Its nice to know the world is going to end tomorrow...well probably not end directly...but enough for everyone to get blood thirsty crazy leading to WWIIIs first official battle in Iran.

I doubt it be tomorrow..it is inevitable and why does it have to be a nuke? its probably hell of a lot easier to get a Chemical WMD then a nuke. A nuke will however lean speculation towards N. Korea and Iran and or maybe Russia? depending on what type of yield is used. Even if its homemade its not likely to work or be big...still a nuke naturally.

If any place I would really think of Tampa being a nice target with Central Command at McDill

Now I didn't start this thread, and I never said that I agreed with the idea that there was any more chance of a bomb today as opposed to any other day. I did argue to keep this thread alive, because I foresaw something worthwhile coming from it.

If one reads this thread as a "fresh" story, the first thing that jumps out is just how scared America is. Some admitted their fear, and others grew angry to hide it, and still others laughed it off and made jokes like a child whistling as he walks through a graveyard. But there was a certain "tug" about this that seemed to come through on so many posts, both the believers and those who ridiculed the whole thing.

Are we safer than we were before this whole war on terror started? It seems that we honestly don't think so. Do we trust our leaders? Again, it seems not. Are we resigned to one day facing a nuke here in America? Yes, we are.

Now some could say that we here at ATS are predisposed to paranoia, and for that reason reading these fears here does not translate into the fears that the real world has. I disagree.

We have more paranoia, but we also have more dreamers and believers in utopia, so the effect is canceled out. But it is not the numbers that matter anyway, though this thread has scored pretty well for posts. The fact is that the general level of intelligence here is above average. Which translates to the fact that the level of concern that such a thing can, and very well may, happen in the near future is on the minds of some very bright people.

Because our numbers, on a national level, are so small, which in turn means that we stand little chance of having any impact on the course of this nation, I would suggest that everyone here make it a point to go and read up on the survival threads. The sheer amount of "play" that this thread generated, despite there being no sound basis for it, points out that there are a lot of smart people with Chertoff's Gut Syndrome.

As a side note, if we have folks here in the insurance business, have any of you looked at the number of riders on a train that wrecks as opposed to the same route average on trains that do not wreck? On a large scale, there is some evidence that people avoid places of catastrophe, even though they don't know why. The WTC had many such stories, told on national TV. Think of the unusually low number of people on the planes that crashed on 9/11.

I listen when groups "feel" something, and don't know how to put their finger on it. A single person with a "vision" of the future has little credibility to me, but the massed survival instinct of a group is a horse of a different color.

I hope the ATS members who start posts like this will hold themselves
accountable, and keep at least some of their integrity by apologizing
to the forum when their disaster prediction does not materialize.

AL-Qaeda makes threats almost every week this year and none of them
have come to pass. It's sad to see ATS members mimicking that terror
group.

There is a history of this type of post on ATS.

NYC nuke attack in February
www.abovetopsecret.com...
posted on 31-12-2003

CIA Agent: Nuke Attack Surely Coming
www.abovetopsecret.com...
posted on 13-11-2004

Al Qaida May Be Preparing for Nuclear Strike
www.abovetopsecret.com...
posted on 12-11-2004

Nuke terror set for Ramadan
www.abovetopsecret.com...
posted on 29-9-2005

American Hiroshima
www.abovetopsecret.com...
posted on 11-7-2005

June 19, 2006

Originally posted by carewemust
I hope the ATS members who start posts like this will hold themselves
accountable, and keep at least some of their integrity by apologizing
to the forum when their disaster prediction does not materialize.

Held accountable? For what? I reiterate, nobody made you read this post, much less believe any thing it says. It serves as a warning to those who care to listen to simply be mentally ready, nothing more, nothing less. Its not as if this thread has inspired a mass evacuation of Portland. The great thing about ATS is that people can speculate, no matter how outlandish their theory. If the attack doesn't happen than what harm has this thread caused? None, if anything it has provided some insightful discussion.

People have predicted a lot worse things than a nuke going off in one city. Usually when that happens people shrug it off or choose not to pay attention to it. Like NGC stated, the simple fact that people care enough to respond to this thread shows that it is a very serious issue on the minds of many, regardless of the type of response.

From my perspective this thread isn't even fear mongering. I walk around every day expecting all hell to break loose, and I'm ready to run to the hills if I have to. Mental preparedness is essential when feces hits the fan.

To me this is all much like trying to watch a ball game with the old "rabbit ears" antenna. You keep moving it around to get the best picture.

A lot of people have been afraid for a long time. The question is, when are they right? When is the group dynamics "in tune" with the survival instinct that has served humans, and wild animals, so well in the past?

That is the tricky part. If we could figure that out, we would have a real heads up for when to make a run for it.

Why the heck are they checking all the traffic going over the Hoover Dam?

Have been since 2002, but lately pulling more little old ladies over for spot checks.
BEWARE THE SENIORS!!!!!
(not)

How true that is. We're on the ass end of life and a few years/months one way or the other don't really mean much.

So all you sassy young whippersnappers out there need to take notice and quit honking for us to drive faster.