China lightning kills record 141.....And guess what gets blamed.

China lightning kills record 141.....And guess what gets blamed.

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According to the China Meteorological Administration (CMA), 141 people died in lightning strikes in July.

China's top meteorological official blamed global warming for the extreme seasonal weather.

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[edit: title - changed balmed to blamed]

[edit on 2-8-2007 by 12m8keall2c]

141 people is alot, and millions in flooding and drought, there country is going form one extreme to another.

Take Care, Vix

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I've got to comment on this. Something has been bothering me a lot recently.

During this summer I've seen an unreal amount of lightening. Due to changes in the national weather patterns my part of the country has been getting a lot more storms and jesus christ, the amount of lightening has been unbelievable.

Getting extra storms is one thing, non-stop lightening shows is something completely different. We're talking 20, 30 and 40 flashes of lightening within a five minute period - I kid you not. We're talking 5 and 10 flashes of lightening at a time - in many cases this type of activity will go on for almost the entire duration of the storm.

It just goes on and on and on. When I sit outside and pay attention to the storms it's been like a freaking non-stop lightening show.

Very, VERY strange indeed.

I had a fear of tornado's as a kid and as a result have paid close attention to inclement weather and never in my life have I see so much lightening.

I still can't believe they got balmed.

Hasn't China got the most active weather control program going - off the top of my head they've even got a government minister for weather modification.

Of course that would have much to do with anything, yeah I'd go with global warming.

Why cant we get those in here? I've been dying to get some good photographs of lightning and been waiting for a good oppurtunity for more than 2 years now

You know I have a theory on this Lightning thing.

Tell god to stop rubbing his feet on the carpet upstairs and things will cool down.


Altho I don't believe it to be global warming caused by humans. Other planets are seeing the same thing happen also. Mars in particular that i know of.

So I think this is just a normal course of whatever The Earth has in store for us.. So take it as it goes..

i lived in florida for a few years and there used to be some intense lightning there. sometimes it was basically an all out lightning storm and the sky looked like a big strobe light.

I am in Florida and it has gotten worse, much worse this year ... after being near drought except for hurricanes and not much lightning to speak of in the last 10 years compared to before that when I remembered daily rainshowers at the same times.

Why does the solar sytem changes and global warming have to be mutually exclusive and not a combination for us? You cannot deny our CO2 level is many times higher than it has been in (if you believe in science, testing, and dating systems) around 1 billion years that we can check through ice cores? I guess you are right, Bush says its a conspiracy, it must be. Watch out for all those owls and job losses if we try to take care of the earth ... oh, and smoking is as harmful as a glass of milk.

we all have different views, that is freedom!

Haven't noticed too much lightning in my area, if anything, the lack thereof.

As for China and their 'Weather Machine', whose to say this wasn't a trial run for something more sinister.

There may have only been 141 test subjects to begin with. Thus the number.

Originally posted by discomfit
During this summer I've seen an unreal amount of lightening. Due to changes in the national weather patterns my part of the country has been getting a lot more storms and jesus christ, the amount of lightening has been unbelievable.

You might be interested to know that 'lightening' is what women do to their hair color.

Lightning is that bright light that flashes in the sky during storms.

HTH.

Originally posted by Now_Then
Hasn't China got the most active weather control program going - off the top of my head they've even got a government minister for weather modification.

You are right. In fact, they are guaranteeing sunny skies during the Olympics next year. Here are a few stats about their program.

According to Wang Guanghe, director of the Weather Modification Department under the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences, each of China's more than 30 provinces and province-level municipalities today boast a weather-modification base, employing more than 32,000 people, 7,100 anti-aircraft guns, 4,991 special rocket launchers and 30-odd aircraft across the country.

www.atimes.com...

I would argue that sudden changes in any type of weather phenomenon simply cannot be attributed to global warming. Why would a gradual increase in CO2 in our atmosphere over the past century or so cause a sudden change, right now? Would it not have been gradually changing our climate over this time period?

So, if the number of deaths by lightning in China were, in fact, unusually high in last month, it is ridiculous to attribute it to global warming. Does it sound more logical to blame a sudden regional spike in the number of lightning deaths on a gradual increase of CO2 levels over the past century, or does it make more sense to question whether the government's Weather Modification Department may have a role in the increase of lightning?

Personally, I am not convinced that storms, overall, are any stronger or more frequent than usual. By usual, I mean in terms of what I have known throughout my life and, more importantly, what the Earth has seen throughout its own life. Geology indicates that the Earth has always had natural cycles that directly impact the climate. Who are we to think that we are just now causing the Earth to undergo changes unlike ever before?

With that being said, do I feel that the efforts to curb global warming are a good thing. Absolutely. Raping the Earth...

Sorry if this came off as a rant.

Well;

in 2006 there were 717 Lightning deaths in China
in 2005 there were 619 " " " " "

realize that China has 21 provincial capitals (who keep records)
that are in temperate or Tropical Zones.
~hence more natural occurring lightning~ in densely populated areas


see: www.youtubemeetup.com/node111369

[edit on 2-8-2007 by St Udio]

Lightning, oh my God! We're all going to die! It must be that the weather is TURNING AGAINST US!

Christ, it's lightning, it's a normal part of a storm.

thats what you get for flying your kite in the storm...


i have lived in the midwest for the past....10 or so years and i havent noticed a change in storms or weather.....

Originally posted by PsykoOps
Why cant we get those in here? I've been dying to get some good photographs of lightning and been waiting for a good oppurtunity for more than 2 years now

i've tried to set up my camera with a slave drive flash and use the lightning as the driver instead of another flash...it should work but i haven't got it to work...looks good in theory doesn't it?

I dont know if there are any cameras that allow them to be used with a flash trigger. I know there is a special remote trigger that reacts to lightning for that purpose.
I'm waiting for good night time thunder so I can set my camera to take long exposures with continous shooting for as long as I have battery power and enough room on the card. I plan to set my camera on F32, aperture priority, Iso 100 and continous shooting and lock down the wire trigger and then just wait.

Am i the only one who honestly couldn't give a flying # and just thinks Global warming is a load of #ing bollocks?

I am sick of hearing about it!

Quite honestly i wish it would hurry the # up so i can get a tan!

I mean floods over here ... and global #ing warming is to blame! Theres been floods as long as time has existed! its just this one is worse than the average so its got to be global warming! ... If we have a hot winter .... It's global #ing warming!?! If i take a crap and it is an inch bigger than usual ITS GLOBAL #ING WARMING!

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[edit on 2/8/07 by Liamoville]

This may sound somewhat grim, but I'd guess that considering China has the most people, the chances of someone getting hit by lighting is bigger than countries with a smaller population. Also consider it is a fairly large country too.

I think that is a complete possibility ... more people, the odds being the same ... a higher individual risk for that area.

I also want to make clear, I don't mean to intend that global warming is a definite cause of anything ... just that, I have to admit to some extent, there is a trend of warming across the globe = global warming. Snap changes may happen more than we realize, but to assume they don't means we think we have a more sound grasp on everything and our records go back farther than they do. I personally feel that we know next to nothing, and even some of the stuff I am inclined to go along with may be way off base, since it is derived from what we know and have learned from a relatively short amount of time with limited instruments and technology (yes, I still feel our technology is primitive).

I do entertain the idea of weather modification ... but as us being relatively primitive, our understanding on the global side effects, immediate and long term is most likely ignorant and naive. Controlling the weather may have caused the storm that had such intense lightning that killed so many, as an adverse side effect of making it sunny and calm elsewhere. We are dealing with forces I have no doubt are not fully understood. It seems that people have the tendency to over-estimate their abilities and understanding ... us controlling the weather is to that of a kid in a pedal car thinking they can drive to the store in a race car/Bughatti/Hummer/utility truck.

Assumptions and arrogance rarely get us very far in the right direction.

I will not disclude natural phenomenon, weather modification, global warming, or a bunch of people standing outside with cell phones and metal poles in a pool. Who knows what the cause is unless you are at least slightly omnipotent or more advanced than we as humans are at this point in our development.