I Found God

This entire theory is new to me, it came to me only today when I was asked to prove God exists, but its so clear now I can't deny it. I don't take full credit for this theory, because I'm sure someone else has considered it, but I assure you I came with this idea on my own. God, is a touchy subject, but, I think we can all agree on the common beliefs of what God is supposed to be about:

1: God is the creator and ruler of this universe.
2: God is all knowing.
3: God is all powerful.
4: God is all loving.
5: God is everywhere.

..I'm sure I can keep going, but I don't need to. Basically, God is a riddle that needs to be solved. With the list above, replace "God", with "What".

1: What is the creator and ruler of this universe?
2: What is all knowing?
3: What is all powerful?
4: What is all loving?
5: What is everywhere?

Your answer is Magnetic Force.

Everything in this entire universe is held together with magnetic force. EVERYTHING. There is no such thing as "non-magnetic", because everything is magnetic, just some is more noticeable than others.

Atoms, which make all matter in this universe, are made of Protons, Neutrons, and Electrons according to science. These three things create a magnetic force that hold itself together. Most objects have so many atoms (magnets) pointing in different directions, that they cancel each other out, and appear to be "non-magnetic". Real magnets like refrigerator magnets have all their atoms (magnets) pointed in the same direction, which is why magnets are noticeably magnetic.

Your skin, wood, metal, plastic, water, air, the planets, the stars, electricity, everything is magnetic. Without magnetism we wouldn't have it all. Without magnetic force, there wouldn't even be a God.

1: What is the creator and ruler of this universe?

Magnetic Force is the creator and ruler of the universe, without it, we wouldn't be here, nothing would.

2: What is all knowing?

Knowledge, would not exist without magnetism. If magnetism creates knowledge, then Magnetism is all knowing.

3: What is all powerful?

Split an atom, and you get an atomic bomb. One of the most powerful forces we know. Atoms are made with magnetic force. Gravity, is also a form of magnetism, and gravity is all powerful.

4: What is all loving?

Everything in the universe is magnetic. These magnetic things are naturally attracted to either the North or South poles of magnetism. In this case, magnetism loves everything, its attracted to everything, so its all loving.

5: What is everywhere?

Magnetism.

God = Magnetic Force

I have a lot more to say about this, but I would like see everyone's thoughts. Discus.

I want to add... before you post, please do not mention any religious beliefs, and start with a clean slate, with a 100% open mind. There are so many religions that confuse a physical Lord, with a spiritual God. None of these religious beliefs should be a basis for debunking this theory.

This theory should be concidered a new religion.

Originally posted by 11 11
Your answer is Magnetic Force.
God = Magnetic Force

I have to raise the inevitable question. You just had to know that this would be asked: From where, ultimately, did the magnetic force come from? Or, to rephrase the same question, Who created magnetic force?

Originally posted by 11 11
Your answer is Magnetic Force.
God = Magnetic Force

Isn't water diamagnetic? Surely water is good? Bismuth? I do believe in some type of gods, but I'm not sure we can label god as magnetism. Maybe god created magnetism?

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I ressonate to your theory, and you do explain it well. It´s quite similar to the chinese notion of Qi.

However, I think it´s more a case of a physical manifestation of god, than the creator himself.

Originally posted by 11 11
These three things create a magnetic force that hold itself together.

It's the strong nuclear force that holds atom nuclei together, which is supposed to be caused by subatomic particles afaik

Most objects have so many atoms (magnets) pointing in different directions, that they cancel each other out, and appear to be "non-magnetic". Real magnets like refrigerator magnets have all their atoms (magnets) pointed in the same direction, which is why magnets are noticeably magnetic.

Atoms are not magnetic arrows that can be pointed in a certain direction. It just doesn't work like that. It has more to do with electrically charged particles (electrons and protons) and the intereaction in between differently charged atoms.

1: What is the creator and ruler of this universe?

As stated previously, where did this magnetism come from in the first place?

2: What is all knowing?

Knowledge, would not exist without magnetism. If magnetism creates knowledge, then Magnetism is all knowing.

Magnetism is a force, it does not know, it cannot know, there's nothing sentient about it.

3: What is all powerful?

Split an atom, and you get an atomic bomb. One of the most powerful forces we know. Atoms are made with magnetic force. Gravity, is also a form of magnetism, and gravity is all powerful.

Matter/Antimatter reaction is a lot more powerful than nuclear bombs.
Gravity is the weakest "force" of all so I can hardly see how you can describe it as all powerful, let alone that it has nothing magnetic.

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gravity is also believed to be more of a distortion in space/time or something than a magnetic force. the universe struggles to fill the area that is displaced by mass. supporting evidence that gravity is not magnetism: i can't reduce my weight (affect gravitational pull) with only a magnet pointed at the earth, no matter how i align the polarity.

interesting thought nonetheless.

Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
Who created magnetic force?

You are asking, "Who created God?" That's something I dont think I can answer. It's basicaly the chicken and the egg question of what came first.

There may be a way to answer, but I'm not sure. The answer is in the North and South poles of magnetism. According to science you can not have a one sided magnetic force. If there is a North pole, there is always a South pole, on a magnet. Think of it as negitive and positive, you can not have a negitive unless you have a positive, and vise versa. With bar magnets, according to Ed Leedskalnin, there are invinsible tiny magnets running out of the North pole, into the South pole. There are also tiny invinsible magnets running out of the South pole, into the North pole. These tiny magnets always run against each other.

So think of the universe before it was created. What is there? Nothing, right? Before the universe was created there was nothingness, or negitiveness. So if you start with nothing, or negitive, then that would mean the negitive has nowhere to run, or does it? If you have a negitive, sooner or later it will find a positive, if not create it.

To simplify what my over active brain is thinking:

Who created God?

Answer = God created itself.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Answer = The negitive.

maybe whatever our universe used to be spontaneously polarized and it was the creation of these positive and negative forces that created our current universe. =)

i don't think i buy the magnetism==god thing but i can still have fun with the discussion.

Originally posted by Freezer
Isn't water diamagnetic? Surely water is good?

Bismuth? I do believe in some type of gods, but I'm not sure we can label god as magnetism. Maybe god created magnetism?

Water itself as a whole, is diamagnetic, but what is water? H20.

2 Hydrogen and 1 Oxygen.. What makes hydrogen and oxygen stay together? Magnetism. How do you break apart hydrogen and oxygen? Electrolysis. What is electrolysis? Electricity. What is electricity? Magnetism.

You got to think smaller than just "water".

Electricity is not magnetism. They are both manifestations of the electro-magnetic force.

Hydrogen and oxygen atoms are held together by a sharing of electrons.

Gravity is not magnetism, although it may the compliment (or opposite) of electro-magnetism.

Originally posted by DarkSide
It's the strong nuclear force that holds atom nuclei together, which is supposed to be caused by subatomic particles afaik

those subatomic particles = magnetism

Originally posted by DarkSide
Atoms are not magnetic arrows that can be pointed in a certain direction. It just doesn't work like that. It has more to do with electrically charged particles (electrons and protons) and the intereaction in between differently charged atoms.

Wrong, atoms are like magnetic arrows. You see, an atom is made of magnetism. These atom's spin and move, and create their own magnetism. Its like magnets within magnets. You can change the direction of these atom's magnetism with an outside force. You can actually do it with metal. Ever magnetised a piece of metal with a magnet?

Originally posted by DarkSide
As stated previously, where did this magnetism come from in the first place?

It came from nothingness, negitiveness. It created itself because there is no such thing as nothing.

Originally posted by DarkSide
Magnetism is a force, it does not know, it cannot know, there's nothing sentient about it.

Wrong, magnets know that is is attracted to itself. It knows that North loves South and South loves North, and they will always know that. Without magnetism, the word "know" wouldn't exist. Without magnetism, your computer hard drive wouldn't "know". Cassette tapes wouldn't "know". Your mind itself wouldn't "know". Without magnitism there is no knowledge.

Originally posted by DarkSide
Matter/Antimatter reaction is a lot more powerful than nuclear bombs.
Gravity is the weakest "force" of all so I can hardly see how you can describe it as all powerful, let alone that it has nothing magnetic.

Matter/Antimatter = megnetism
Gravity = magnetism

The problem is, you are stuck on traditional science, when traditional science has been proven wrong many many times.

I have to say its an interesting theory. I wonder if you could find references within the bible or other religions of this being the case? Perhaps there are phrase alluding to this.

Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Electricity is not magnetism. They are both manifestations of the electro-magnetic force.

You are stuck on traditional science, and you are wrong.

Electricity IS magnetism. If you can make electricity without magnets, let me know. I bet you can't.

Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Hydrogen and oxygen atoms are held together by a sharing of electrons.

Electrons = magnetism

Originally posted by Tuning Spork
Gravity is not magnetism, although it may the compliment (or opposite) of electro-magnetism.

Gravity is also magnetism, actually, the reason scientists are lost about gravity is because they see that gravity "attracts everything" when man made magnets "attract only metal". But this isn't true, man made magnets are attracted to everything, we just don't have a magnet big enough to notice the changes. Some reason the big magnet called Earth attracts things that even have a low permeability.

en.wikipedia.org...

Man made magnets are attracted to everything, we just don't notice it, because most things have a low permeability.

I suggest everyone reading this, about magnetism.

www.keelynet.com...

It's hard to read at times, and there are a lot of unformatted hard to understand experiments, but I assure you he is not misleading.

Also, read this.. the FOUR FUNDAMENTAL FORCES OF THE UNIVERSE.

hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...

The link above is full of semi incorrect information. All of the "four fundamental forces of the universe" are all magnetism.

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Why do you call this a theory in your opening statement, then proceed to lambaste those who challenge your ideas with *known* science in such an authoritative tone?

In your own words you discovered this "theory" today(or yesterday), so in a days time you have solved the mysteries of the universe? I would suggest not to brush aside what is *known* to us so quickly and support your magnetism theory with a bit more than defining energy as magnetism.

As far as creating electricity without magnets, I believe photovoltaics do not use a magnet(in the strict sense of the word). But you will probably classify any sort of electric or energy transaction for that matter as magnetism anyway.

Correct me if I'm wrong

Originally posted by aava
Why do you call this a theory in your opening statement, then proceed to lambaste those who challenge your ideas with *known* science in such an authoritative tone?


In your own words you discovered this "theory" today(or yesterday), so in a days time you have solved the mysteries of the universe? I would suggest not to brush aside what is *known* to us so quickly and support your magnetism theory with a bit more than defining energy as magnetism.

Actually, the whole thing about magnetism is NOT a theory. I highly suggest you research. The only part that I am calling a theory, is the Magnetism = God part. I have been scientificly experimenting with magnets for 15 years, and know a great deal about them, I never once thought about magnetism being God, even though all of the qualities magnetism has was so obvious.

Seriously though, science is wrong, and the whole magnetism thing is TRUTH. The only part I call theory is the God part. Hope thats clear.

Originally posted by aava
As far as creating electricity without magnets, I believe photovoltaics do not use a magnet(in the strict sense of the word). But you will probably classify any sort of electric or energy transaction for that matter as magnetism anyway.

The Sun emits magnets for free 24/7. Free energy. Solar panels just collect them.

Ed Leedskalnin

North and South Pole magnets are not only holding together the earth and moon, but they are turning the earth around on its axis. Those magnets which are coming down from the sun they are hitting their own kind of magnets which are circulating around the earth and they hit more on the East side than on the West side, and that is what makes the earth turn around. North and South Pole magnets make the lightning, in earth's North hemisphere the South Pole magnets are going up and the North pole magnets are coming down in the same flash. In the earth's South hemisphere the North Pole magnets are going up and the South Pole magnets are coming down in the same flash. The North lights are caused by the North and South Pole magnets passing in concentrated streams, but the streams are not as much concentrated as they are in the lightning. The radio waves are made by the North and South Pole magnets. Now about the magnet size. You know sunlight can go through glass, paper and leaves, but it cannot go through wood, rock and iron, but the magnets can go through everything. This shows that each magnet is smaller than each particle of light.

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Now your catching on I've entertained this line of thought before.Magnetism in my opinion is simply one byproduct of the Creator , however I do not agree that "The force of Magnetism" is God.

You sure god wasn't just a dog you saw in the mirror?

Sorry, a friend cracked that one to me, I found it funny.



On a more serious note...

If you are thinking of 'the creator' as in, what brought the universe into existence, it's actually a rather simple mathematical trick.

Now, I know most of you will immediately think, "oh boy, somebody thinks they know it all"... but I can say with certainty that I know exactly what happened to start the existence of all matter and energy within the universe today.
The funny part is, it's actually so dead simple, you'd kick yourself for not knowing it already... I almost fell off my chair laughing when I figured it out.


I intend to publish my version of it one day, but until I do, I'm going to have a little fun...
I shal pose it in a riddle... of which I know you won't be able to answer... but that's what makes it fun.

- We will only ever be able to see half of the universe.
- The math to the creation of EVERYTHING, is the same very first mathematical principle you learned as a child.
- The catalyst (trigger) that determined 'when' the universe came into being doesn't exist.

One riddle that may give it away, and if you figure it out through this, I have no quarrel with you trying to publish it as well.

- The universe cannot be quantified. Its sum is nothing.



I don't expect you to take note... but it should be fun to point back when the theory (wether I, or someone else publish it) becomes mainstream. I'll be able to point and say, see? I already knew.

We do not exist. The universe isn't real. We are being decieved by the nothingness. If you keep your eyes open in pitch black, you start to see alot of imaginary things. Accept it all for what it is, don't even try to answer the question...as the answer is death. :O