The REAL Reason Why The Terrorists Hate America

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"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom.

This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."

Words from Bin Laden himself.

For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered [by the Jews] and assaulted and robbed of their honor and of their property. Their houses have been blasted, their crops destroyed.

Our mothers and daughters and sons are slaughtered every day with the approval of America and its support. And, while America blocks the entry of weapons into Islamic countries, it provides the Israelis with a continuous supply of arms allowing them thus to kill and massacre more Muslims.

They [Americans] accuse our children in Palestine of being terrorists?those children, who have no weapons and have not even reached maturity. At the same time, they defend a country, the state of the Jews, that has a policy to destroy the future of these children.

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In today's wars, there are no morals, and it is clear that mankind has descended to the lowest degrees of decadence and oppression. They rip us of our wealth and of our resources and of our oil. Our religion is under attack. They kill and murder our brothers. They compromise our honor and our dignity and dare we utter a single word of protest against the injustice, we are called terrorists.

The American government, in a time where there are millions of Americans living on the street and those living below the standard of living and below the poverty line, we find the American government turning toward helping Israel in occupying our land and building settlements in the Holy Land.

America throws her own sons in the land of the two Holy Mosques for the sake of protecting Jewish interests.

Western masses have fallen under the effect of Jewish media.


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Let the whole world know that we shall never accept that the tragedy of Andalucia would be repeated in Palestine. We cannot accept that Palestine will become Jewish.

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And to America, I stay to it and to its people this: I swear by God the Great, America will never dream nor those who live in America will never taste security and safety unless we feel security and safety in our land and in Palestine.

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Create the Problem; Get the Reaction make the money. It's the American way. Pretty #ing sick isn�t it!

Bin Laden says all of that, with all of that hatred towards "jews" for two primary reasons.

#1. Anytime the agenda is about to be stepped up on a larger scale, jews are always used as the scapegoat for blame or direct verbal assault. Truly a form of antisemitism, though often it is a mask for a different cause for a directed effect.

#2. because Bin Laden was trained and screwed over by the CIA, such words are otherwise accurate and very explicative of the Jihad against the greedy Military Industrial Complex of the USA.

now, you have to understand, that the translation is "lost" by the media when he says "jews". He usually says zionists like the others of his ilk. Jews and Zionists are often confused for being the same, but are most definitely not. He is acurate in this context as Zionists are primarily responsible for the strife of his countrymen, starting with Zionist numero uno, Guy de Rothschild.

Another thing that I would like you to understand is this: Because Bin Laden was originally CIA trained, the link he may have with that organization may still be alive. Although the CIA is another patsy, usually for the NSA, this is important to know when discussing the attacks of September 11. Such a link would be instrumental in how the US government appeared to drop the ball with three air planes crashing down upon significant buildings and their innocent people occupying them. The Bin Laden family themselves have had numerous financial deals with the Bush family, including a deal where in 1996 they blew up a US Barracks in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia only so that the Bin Laden construction consortium would get the contract to rebuild the damaged area.

But you are right... the fact that the zionist government of Israel was imposed upon the Arabs from a piece of paper called the Balfour declaration and brave ambitions from the Rothschilds, despite a promise by FDR stating that no such thing would happen without negotiations (he may have died for such a promise), has more than fueled the fire that burns in a lot of frustrated hearts.

The only reason this hasn't been peaceably resolved is because this terrorism is profitable to arms merchants and defense contractors, and an invaluable resource to intelligence and espionage agencies because they can and do blow things up under the cover of terrorist cells. Their new favorite is al qaeda, which is more of an old guard that was started by the CIA during the Afghanistan/Soviet conflict of the late 20th Century.

chilling... luckily i live in australia

Remember soon after 9-11 Bin Laden released a video?

'They' said that this video could not be shown on TV because of

SECRET MESSAGES

Well maybe they should have told Dish Network Satellite TV about it because they broadcasted it all over America in Arabic at the same time as all the Arabs in the mid-east, and around the world saw it.

More than a million arabs in America saw it BEFORE the idea of 'secret messages' was brought up.


Aljazeera

www.dishnetwork.com...

[Edited on 12-1-2004 by ArchAngel]

[Edited on 12-1-2004 by ArchAngel]

Originally posted by ArchAngel
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"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom.

This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."

Words from Bin Laden himself.

If thoses are Bin Laden's word them i'm really scared. Can you verfiy that thoses are his words?

" Can you verfiy that thoses are his words?"

Click on the link and look for yourself.

On my honor: I would never post something that I know to be false.

There were many locations that this, and other translations could be found but slowly they disappeared. It was not easy finding this one. (Google searches turn up too many other articles)

I can assure you they are accurate because I read them from many different sources long ago.(not that I am a friend of Bin Laden)

I can assure you they are accurate because I read them from many different sources long ago.(not that I am a friend of Bin Laden)

I dunno archangel... kinda sounds to me like you and oasama are pretty chummy just kidding... but it sounds very bin ladenish... i wonder what he's up to now? maybe we'll see him on this is your life in a few years

Originally posted by specialasianX
chilling... luckily i live in australia

I don't know about that, SAX, there are some bigoted a-holes down there as well.

www.worldnetdaily.com...

What you have to ask yourself is this: did ArchAngel start this thread because he opposes what Bin Laden has said (alegedly) or did he start this thread because he agrees with it?

What you have to ask yourself is this: did ArchAngel start this thread because he opposes what Bin Laden has said (alegedly) or did he start this thread because he agrees with it?

I posted it to expose the truth.

They do not hate our freedoms.

They do not hate our religion.

They are not jealous.

They hate what we do, and who our allies are.

They hate Israel, and by extension they hate America for being their protector.

The key to solving the problem is understanding the true motives. Without that we blindly rush forth to fight what cannot be defeated by force.

Is there a reason for the media deception?

What you have to ask yourself is this: did ArchAngel start this thread because he opposes what Bin Laden has said (alegedly) or did he start this thread because he agrees with it?

Let me answer this again.

Do I agree with Bin Laden?

No.

Do I UNDERSTAND that this is what he said?

Yes.

What side am I on?

Humans first, and America next.

What should happen to Bin Laden?

He should stand trial in the UN International Criminal Court if caught.

Do I hate Jews?

No. Israel behind the Green Line is my line.

Originally posted by HowardRoark

Originally posted by specialasianX
chilling... luckily i live in australia

I don't know about that, SAX, there are some bigoted a-holes down there as well.

www.worldnetdaily.com...

Speaking for me personally...if the following are the words we're attributing to Osama:
"I have already said that we are not hostile to the United States. We are against the system, which makes other nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to mortgage their political and economic freedom.

This system is totally in control of the American-Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."

Then I...am horrified to admit...I agree with him. I don't know about that last part...I don't know who is controlling American Jews...but I know the Israeli agenda seems to be directing much of what we do when it has no business doing so. There are a LOT of interests in the world besides Israeli interests...but the Iraeli interests seem to be our first concern. Well...of course....after our own selfish interests.

What you have to ask yourself is this: did ArchAngel start this thread because he opposes what Bin Laden has said (alegedly) or did he start this thread because he agrees with it?

Even down under the terrorists get a bad media coverage... the reason is that the media is controlled (especially in america) by rich and powerful jews who are pro-israel... now i am no racsist and i am definately not anti-semetic... i just dislike israel as a state... now if anyone wants to turn around and say by being anti-israeli i am being anti-semetic (as people have many a time) you are wrong there is a huge difference betwen a country and a religion.

....rich and powerful jews who are pro-israel....

It is not only Jews, and it is not all Jews. In fact Jews are in the minority.

Point the finger to the real faction:

ZIONISTS

Both Christian, and Jewish Zionists place Israel above all other nations.

There are many Jewish, and Christian groups that are Non-Zionist.

The problem is not the religion, but the social/political group of Zionists.

'anti-semite' is a silver bullet with which to quash dissent. i can be antidisestablishment, i can be anti abortion, anti muslim, anti christ, anti pasto, or pro volone, but as soon as i'm labelled 'anti-semite', THAT'S IT! game over.
it's mind control at it's finest.
i'm protruth. projustice. protheamericanway(like in superman, not the actual american way, which is synonomous with the illuminati way, ...problem, reaction, solution).
if i was jewish, i'd be sooo pissed at the zionists. they're acting like nazis.

Originally posted by ArchAngel
For over half a century, Muslims in Palestine have been slaughtered [by the Jews]

It wasn't the 'Jews' who did this - Judaism is a religion.
It was the Zionists, a political party.

For more on Zionism check here

"It wasn't the 'Jews' who did this - Judaism is a religion.
It was the Zionists, a political party."

The words you posted were quotes from the Bin Laden interview, not from me. I fully understand the difference between zionism, and judaism.

See my above post....

If the US really wanted to have a War on Terror, the 1st thing they should do is find out what complaints are VALID and fix them. (US troops in Saudi Arabia for example, why were they there for so long?)

If you want to stop people from killing Americans find out WHY they want to kill Americans.

Education and a little historical background and ACTUAL DISCUSSION can combat terrorism far better than military munitions.

Bin Laden is still a murderous millionaire punk, but one or two of his actual beefs are pretty valid. The end doesn't justify the means, though.