Nothing Strange is Going On in Area 51

Originally posted by an3rkist
What exactly do you think you're going to do with a name? Check it against military databases? A name is the LAST thing that will help you to validate this claim, aside from the fact that you would assume that a person tendering the name of an alleged participant in this "conspiracy" would be more credible.

It can be checked with the company information that I listed above and then the person can be asked if this is true or not. That is at least step one of any investigation.

Originally posted by zerotime
It can be checked with the company information that I listed above and then the person can be asked if this is true or not. That is at least step one of any investigation.

A nice thought, but if the OP's claims are true, then it's safe to assume that his historical career records have been hidden from public view. It's kind of a Catch 22 situation. Definitely worth looking into, but I doubt that anything will come up; and whether or not it does it will serve to prove nothing. I respect your motivation, but like all of us, your efforts will undoubtedly prove to be fruitless.

I do not mean to discourage your attempt, but I am instead attempting to reveal a future inevitability to lend validity to all of my own claims, therefore making myself more credible than I really I am.

[edit on 27/7/07 by an3rkist]

I will never tell you his name. It has no significance anyways. He didnt see all the aircraft just 1 type, which he couldnt tell me about. They would have hired a military contractor, but my grandpa is one of the best engineers in the field of ruggedized equipment. That is his website, please dont contact him, he would kill me if you do. Actually, if you're super curious you can call him and learn more but just dont mention me or dont say "Have you installed equipment on UFO's before?" because that would lead to an instant hang-up.

If you do contact him please just do it to find out more about his company. And pretend to be a representative from a defense contractor, because otherwise he'll hang up instantly. Believe me I've tried it. if you call him for any other reason, such as proving if he went to Area 51 or not, he's never going to tell a complete stranger if he did or not. He barely told me.

No offense to Rugged Electronics, but I see nothing classified on the website. You could make a ruggedized potato peeler without Q clearance.

Q clearance is for nukes and is issued by DOE.

However, did you think that they'd put classified stuff on their website?

I mean, Alcoa makes nuke parts, but if you go to their website all you see is how to make pot roasts juicier by baking them in aluminum foil.

Raytheon makes all SORTS of classified stuff, but it's all boat radars and transmitter tubes on their website. You don't see anything related to some of the stuff they make.

Don't worry. I'm not going to call you grandpa on you. I respect your privacy but all the information you have given so far allowed me to search the company name and website. It is out there but I'm not going to bother them.

Why not tell people his name. If he founded RUGGEDTRONICS, it stands to reason that he is probably the President of that company and as such, his name is a matter of public (internet) record. It is possible that he might not be named so, I will respect your grandpa's privacy. Plus I am just mildly curious.

It does look that they do manufacture and design Hardend storage data systems for the military and others as well as things like secure fax machines and flight data recorders. Most of their business must be as a subcontractor. When you look at the Miltary contracts RUGGEDTRONICS has had, it looks rather small. You would have been better served to have not named the company IMO. People on this board investigate things with a fine toothed comb.

All that being said, I am quite sure many mundane airframes are tested at area 51. I am also fairly confident, that many advanced and unique airframes are tested there as well, or else there wouldn't be such heavy security for the site.

Ask your Grandpa how he got to Area 51?

Of course hes not going to put classified info on his site. I have no idea how he got there. He got some sort of clearance pass by the people in charge there, and he was trying to get one for me, but they didnt trust a 9 year old kid LOL. I go to my grandparents house in the summer and winter and I go to work with him at his office. I help assemble various things, then he checks them to make sure my assembling is to plan. On the way to work one day he started telling me about his trip to Area 51. He told me he had worked on experimental aircraft there and taken a tour of the facilities (the aboveground non secret ones). He said he didnt see anything out of the ordinary but he couldnt describe the aircraft. He also said he was restricted from going in some areas because they were not related to his job at hand. he just got to take a look at the aircraft.
THANK YOU FOR RESPECTING MY GRANDPAS PRIVACY AND MY PRIVACY

He keeps to himself and doesnt like to talk to people...so he might have seen more. I could tell he wasnt allowed to say very much about the whole ordeal because when I started asking more questions he quickly changed the subject to the price of gas LOL

Actually now that I have thought about this subject for awhile, I'm pretty sure he told me he flew in. There is pretty mech no other plausible way that he could get there. I'm sure even the spooks have enough heart to let a 70 year old man fly in instead of making him drive in his pickup truck through the desert with no AC LOL

Why do you have to put a big LOL on the end of every post you make? You must be rolling about the room in fits of laughter as you surf around ATS. We are all ufo nuts after all, right? LOL

This story sounds pretty much like a thread that came up about a year ago. Remember the guy who claimed to have an old grandpa / uncle / something like that, who worked at Area 51 and they posted up a 'genuine' photo of a saucer craft residing in the hangar - problem was, it had been photoshopped to hell-and-back and certainly didn't look like a pic from 1965 or whenever it was purported to be taken.

I see this as the next attention-seeking thread of the week. There's another attention-grabbing headline here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by RiotComing
Why do you have to put a big LOL on the end of every post you make? You must be rolling about the room in fits of laughter as you surf around ATS. We are all ufo nuts after all, right? LOL

Nothing wrong with somebody who has a sense of humor, right? LOL!

This story sounds pretty much like a thread that came up about a year ago. Remember the guy who claimed to have an old grandpa / uncle / something like that, who worked at Area 51 and they posted up a 'genuine' photo of a saucer craft residing in the hangar - problem was, it had been photoshopped to hell-and-back and certainly didn't look like a pic from 1965 or whenever it was purported to be taken.

Your parents must both be only-childs. Everyone who has an uncle has an uncle who works at Area 51. I, myself, have two. My grandpa, on the other hand, did not work at Area 51, but instead he was stationed on the military base built on the moon.

I see this as the next attention-seeking thread of the week. There's another attention-grabbing headline here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

If you're so against threads that serve no purpose save to get attention, why on earth did you link to one of them???

Now in an effort to turn this particular post into something relevant to the thread, I'm going to...ah screw it.

"Nothing Strange is Going On in Area 51 "

skillzdatchillz
Registered: 25-7-2007

Nice one government official ;-P

I just got one question. Why is it that there are lots of posts from people who joined relatively not long ago when they claim, there is no coverup, there is no conspiracy, everything is normal?

Maybe just coincidence but.... just seems a bit too odd to me... And suspect.

Hahaha i love it when people think I'm a spook it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I found this site a few days ago and i've been hooked ever since. It's not my fault I have info that proves Area 51 (at least aboveground) is normal. I thought I should share it with the world. You should be thanking me instead of roasting me LOL (in your face RiotComing) lol jk dude and i am rolling around in fits of laughter at some of the crackpot theories on this site.

Thanks for backing me up an3rkist. you completely owned that guy lol

RiotComing: I have no photos or sophisticated made up stories, I only have the truth, and I have information to back this up

Originally posted by an3rkist
If you're so against threads that serve no purpose save to get attention, why on earth did you link to one of them???

Because the sheer entertainment value alone is worth the price of admission LOL - even skillzdatchillz would have to agree there!

You get zero information value from them, but they sure have you LOLing all over the place! LOL

Am I against such threads? Well, yes and no. LOL

I swear to god RiotComing i'm telling the truth...but I do agree this thread has had entertainment value for me and I'm sure for others
You know...you dont have to leave comments here Iget the point you think im an attention seeking weirdo who invented some crackpot story to get lots of replies...but that is not the case. Like several people here said, secret facilities are divided into compartments. I have one legitimate piece of the puzzle, but it is up to you who reply to this to find other legitimate pieces, so we can see the whole picture. Thats the only reason I posted this...to learn more about Area 51

Originally posted by skillzdatchillz
Thanks for backing me up an3rkist. you completely owned that guy lol

I suppose I should have concluded my "owning" of "that guy" with the oft used term "LOL". I had no intention to "own" him, or even to back you up. I do not mean to say that I do not believe you; but I have no intentions of defending you, either. You see, I'm as skeptical of your claims as anyone, I just try to be tactful and unassuming in my approach to debunk your statements.

I do not believe your grandfather worked at Area 51, but I also do not believe he DIDN'T work at Area 51. I have yet to come to an educated conclusion, based on the fact that neither side of the argument has provided sufficient evidence to support their statements.

RiotComing: I have no photos or sophisticated made up stories, I only have the truth, and I have information to back this up

Information is useless without sufficient evidence to back it up. I would be very hesitant to refer to your claims as "information" without it.

Originally posted by RiotComing
...the sheer entertainment value alone is worth the price of admission LOL - even skillzdatchillz would have to agree there!

You get zero information value from them, but they sure have you LOLing all over the place! LOL

Am I against such threads? Well, yes and no. LOL

I guess there's no reason to deny ignorance if you can't have a sense of humor to accompany it.





LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[edit on 27/7/07 by an3rkist]