What are we mining on the Moon?

Originally posted by Chorlton
Are you sure they are bringing back gold and not ........errrrr.....cheese?

Theres a distinct lack of Cheddar around these parts.
Im going to take a run to Boscombe Down and see if theyre flying cheese in on secret missions.

Piffle.

Milk can't exist on the moon - you'd have to have giant lunar cows (vaca de luna in Spanish). They'd have to have enough moon grass. Then you'd need really big buckets to milk with, in the low lunar gravity, the milk would bounce out. John Lear thinks this is wrong (see also "Milk Bucket Conspiracy").

No, there's only one thing on the moon that men would be interested in. You'll recall a preoccupation with it, no doubt, during the manned Lunar missions. It was advertised on nearly every commercial break.

No, I'm afraid if we're going to the Moon, it's for one thing - Moontang.

Originally posted by elevatedone
we should refrain from posting crap that we know isn't true...

There is no cheese and milk on the moon, you know it, I know it and everyone knows it.
Jeez, when does school start again...

So
You know and I know and everyone knows there aint a breathable atmosphere on the moon.
You know and I know and everyone knows there aint any structures on the moon
You know and I know and everyone knows that the moon was not 'put there' by another civilisation

Yet, people happily discuss that?

Now back to the moon. What about the Buttermilk?

Originally posted by eyewitness86
I wish the comedians would get their own category where they can laugh at each others vapid jokes..but on to business:

Is it feasible or possible that the entire moon is a gigantic, self sustaining entity that is used to keep the operations going?

You post the above and call us comedians??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

However I see myself and others are now getting too close to the truth and the disinformation people are moving in to stop the cheese information getting out to the people and I know this might panic them so I will now desist from curding out any more info.
Au revoir mes amies
Monsieur le fromage

[edit on 19/7/07 by Chorlton]

Originally posted by Solarskye
If it is true about mining the moon in the past and secretly today then we really have know idea what was made from moon material. Plastics and silicon chips was a big invention back in the day and has really changed our future for the better. The first man-made plastic was created by Alexander Parkes who publicly demonstrated it at the 1862 Great International Exhibition in London.
Silicon Chip

These are most likely earth materials but you never know?

Plastics are made from Petroleum and natural gas, which are not found on the moon, since it has never had a biosphere (Really. It hasn't.). Plastics are polymerized in giant pressure vessels.

Silicon is one of the most abundant materials in the Earth's crust, and it would be crazy to mine the moon for it, unless you are going to use it on the moon.

Originally by elevatedone
we should refrain from posting crap that we know isn't true...

There is no cheese and milk on the moon, you know it, I know it and everyone knows it.

Originally posted by eyewitness86
I wish the comedians would get their own category where they can laugh at each others vapid jokes..but on to business:

Is it feasible or possible that the entire moon is a gigantic, self sustaining entity that is used to keep the operations going?

You mean jokes like this one? Here's what is "serious" on this board. We have Lear saying the Moon has 1/2 the gravity of earth and has a breathable atmosphere. Sleeper talks to alien beings in his head. One person has an alien soul in a human body. Another is "wired" with multiple implants and controlled by emanations from cell towers. There are several who insist the Billy Meier wedding cake UFO is real despite the fact the garbage can lid has been found. There are several who insist a moth is an alien anchor being. Others believe Burisch and Lazar are the Real Deal despite their having been exposed as total frauds. Now we have protracted multiple threads on CGI "drones" whose indecipherable writing is supposed to be a form of programming the craft's actions. And now we're asked to seriously consider the possibility of Spaceship Moon.

And when someone says, "This stuff is looney with no evidence" they are haughtily told they must "keep an open mind" or "Prove [Insert latest outlandish story here] is NOT true!" And you want serious? If you want to be on a board where people refrain from posting 'crap' you'll have to go somewhere else.

[edit on 7/19/2007 by schuyler]

Originally posted by elevatedone
we should refrain from posting crap that we know isn't true...

There is no cheese and milk on the moon, you know it, I know it and everyone knows it.

Jeez, when does school start again...

Hate to break this to y'all, but milk and cheese are as likely as some of the other "serious" stuff I've seen herein. Humour...try it.

suicide virus that is an interesting take

GOLD on the moon, and maybe we are taking more of it to secure the present power structures on earth, rather than be good little mining slaves for the annunaki

GOLD is a super-conductor as well at least when it is heated under high temperatures for over a minute or so.

wow. and yet were are stuck in a 3'rd dimensional vibration where we can only see what our senses reveal to us, while other aspects of our consciousness and our influences of our souls are elsewhere and yet our eyes deceive us into thinking that our physical bodies are all we are, like part of us has pulled down into this reality. and some are pulled down alot more. are souls are infinite and are having simply human experience based on the limitations of our own beleifs which are again recycled thru these senses to give us our individual realities

why not

All i can say is that " It better not be on my land!!"

The missus, knowing the UFO enthusiast that i am bought me a quadrant of the moon for my birthday from www.moonestates.com

Cost $100 for 10 acres, but i thought it was one of the most original presents ive ever recieved. Nicely framed certificate of authentication with my moon property and co-ordinates.

So all i can say is " George Bush, get orrrfffff my land!! "

Originally posted by cpdaman

GOLD is a super-conductor as well at least when it is heated under high temperatures for over a minute or so.

That so? Got some literature on that?

I say it ain't so.

Originally posted by eyewitness86
I wish the comedians would get their own category where they can laugh at each others vapid jokes..but on to business:

Is it feasible or possible that the entire moon is a gigantic, self sustaining entity that is used to keep the operations going?

Oh, now look who is posting laughable nonsense. There is not now nor has there ever been any indication that the Moon is anything other than a dead, uninhabited object. While there are certain elements on the Moon that are somewhat more abundant there than on Earth, the sheer cost of lifting mining and refining equipment, materials needed to sustain a working outpost with personnel, and then shipping the resulting material back to Earth is unlikely to make the process anywhere near profitable.

It would make much more sense to filter the elements (gold, for instance) out of seawater here on Earth, or if it's Helium 3, to build a production facility right here. Until we develop anti-gravity it's all just way too expensive.

"Hey, man, if there was anything valuable on the Moon,
why would we come here to steal your belongings?"


[edit on 19-7-2007 by SuicideVirus]

Anti-Heat Spacecraft Plates or something?

If you check out Zorgon's site, he spells it all out for you there.

Here are just a couple of the pages to have a look at. They'll tell you what,why, who and maybe how the mining of the moon is/was happening

landoflegends.us....

landoflegends.us...

landoflegends.us...

landoflegends.us...

One of the 3 people who owns the mineral rights to 90% of the near side of the moon, incidentely, is one of the top dogs at one of the world's leading camoflauge companies.

Oh and also Nasa doesn't allow for external peer reviews of it's work. I looked for the link for the pdf file from the White House about the complaint filed against Nasa about this but I couldn't find it. It is on the really big johnlear moon photo thread though if you want to see it. I'm sure zorgon has a copy of it saved somewhere also. You could u2u him for verification of this.

Originally posted by GAOTU789
If you check out Zorgon's site, he spells it all out for you there.

Here are just a couple of the pages to have a look at. They'll tell you what,why, who and maybe how the mining of the moon is/was happening


No you will find his ideas and postulations on a very well presented website but not one scrap of verifiable evidence to confirm that any mining has been or is being done.

One of the 3 people who owns the mineral rights to 90% of the near side of the moon, incidentely, is one of the top dogs at one of the world's leading camoflauge companies.


Actually *I* own all the mining and mineral rights to the moon. That is a fact because *I* say so. Well, its as much a fact as you saying 3 other people own it, and stands as much chance in law as those people who supposedly 'own' a bit of the moon.

Actually there is very well written defined Space Law as agreed upon by the countries that are active or hope to be active in space.

Also

Growing concern from Scientists that these rights may be held hostage have been alleviated by a three man North American team; Dr. Joseph Resnick, Dr. Timothy R. O'Neill and Guy Cramer (ROC-Resnick/O'Neill/Cramer team) who have acquired the mineral rights for 95% of the side of the moon that faces Earth, the polar regions and 50% of the far side of the moon.
...
Dr. Resnick (former NASA scientist and current consultant to NASA) states "Space law does not allow countries to have land ownership on planets and moons in the solar system but it does allow for the Mineral Rights to be obtained by individuals and companies. The countries party to the Space Treat Act have agreed that none of them has either jurisdiction nor ownership of any extraterrestrial body, nor samples."

Dr. Resnick found the loophole in Space Law 25 years ago that allowed him ownership of all planetary bodies outside the "Third Planet from the Sun"... submitted this to the World Court at the Hague, and to the United Nations in New York City. In 25+ years no one has ever disputed Dr. Resnick's claimed ownership.

Dr. Resnick was structuring the Universal Mineral Leases Registry (UMLR) when his partner, Guy Cramer, had read the article on the Mars parks proposal and discussed the ability with Dr. Resnick and Dr. O'Neill to implement the preserve idea into reality through the UMLR. Dr. Resnick was structuring the Universal Mineral Leases Registry (UMLR) when his partner, Guy Cramer, had read the article on the Mars parks proposal and discussed the ability with Dr. Resnick and Dr. O'Neill to implement the preserve idea into reality through the UMLR.
...
This loophole in Space law has been a growing concern to Scientists, however, most were unaware that Dr. Resnick had foreseen some of these issues long ago when he obtained ownership of the mineral rights.
...
This material is Copyright © 2004 by Joe Resnick, Timothy R. O'Neill and Guy Cramer, All Rights Reserved.

Bold added by me.

Also I do agree with you about Zorgon's website being well done but if you had have taken the time to actually check the links, he has the sources to all the documents and websites( mostly government) that he bases his arguements on linked to.

So sorry mate, unless you can provide us with documentation to your "ownership" to those mining and mineral rights, I'll stick to the facts.
At least take the time to check the material before you make false claims.

[edit on 19-7-2007 by GAOTU789]

You cant take minerals from land that you dont have permission from the landowner to be on................
Ergo you cannot own the mineral rights, well you can SAY you can, but untill there is an interplanetary court in session you are pretty well stuffed.
Who says inhabitants of another planet havent already claimed the earth and moons mineral rights?. Its all rather stupid.

Zorgons site is a great read with lots and lots of lovely info, questionable but lovely info
BUT
Its all postulation isnt it? Its all science and techy waffle, but when it comes right down to the nitty gritty.......NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS
Thats my point and has been my point all along. You can sit in the bath and contemplate your navel for years but untill someone actually goes up to one of these so-called mining sites and takes actual pictures and shakes hands with whoever is doing it, then its all waffle and mirrors. Then again so many people say we havent even been to the moon or even now lack the capacity to do so.

Originally posted by GAOTU789
Actually there is very well written defined Space Law as agreed upon by the countries that are active or hope to be active in space.

Law, schmaw. In cases like this, whoever establishes a permanent presence there first with enough firepower to defend their interests BECOMES the owner, whether officially or not. Realistically, if the U.S. government wanted to annex the Moon, there aren't too many countries that could stop it.

Hah, this is truly laughable, about those three guys (Dr. Joseph Resnick, Dr. Timothy R. O'Neill and Guy Cramer) owning 95% of the mining rights on the near side of the Moon or parts of the Sol.

Their submission to the World Court and the UN means nothing in the light of any first person to put a BFG or a high-power laser on the surface of the Moon and aim it at anything approaching or the Earth. Those three fellows can then take their self written certificate of land ownership and wipe their behind with it.

No World Court will help them then and I doubt that UN would put together a multinational assault fleet (that will end up being wiped out anyway, or their respective countries retaliated against later with weapons from the Moon) if an assault on the Moon happens.

The land has always been owned by those how can protect it and that will not likely change in the future, if this planet/world heads in that direction (privatizing planetary bodies and the land on them).

Just mho

EDIT: Duh, just read the post by SuicideVirus, so we are in agreement

[edit on 19-7-2007 by amigo]

I remember not to long ago pepsi wanted to put a logo on the moon big enough to see from earth. It didnt happen but look at this, google is making a serious attempt as we speak.

www.vnunet.com...

But i see a problem with this, China is planning there own moon mission. They hope to put a rover there to verify if there are moon bases there. And if they do make it there, We will all finally know if the united states landed there back in 1969. It will put an end to a long argument. Go china go. Oh yea, to over come power issues they plan on putting a small nuclear power plant there also. Hmm.. Now that may start a global debate. I will laugh when aliens send it back in a suit case to there mainland. heres the link:

www.vnunet.com...

[edit on 19-7-2007 by russ1969]

One thing the moon has which does not exist on earth is Helium-3 (He-3)
a rare isotope of helium (only 1 neutron versus 2 neutrons found in
normal helium or helium 4). Scientists anticipate using HE-3 in fusion
reactors where it can be reacted with heavy hydrogen or deuterium
Advantage over Tritium- deuterium reactions is that He3 produces only
charged particles of Helium 4 and protons. Since they have electrical
charge can be contained and accelered by magnetic fields. Neutrons
can't and require heavy shielding. Solar winds over the eons have
deposited HE3 in the lunar soil and can be released by heating the soil.

Originally posted by SuicideVirus

Originally posted by eyewitness86
I wish the comedians would get their own category where they can laugh at each others vapid jokes..but on to business:

Is it feasible or possible that the entire moon is a gigantic, self sustaining entity that is used to keep the operations going?

Oh, now look who is posting laughable nonsense. There is not now nor has there ever been any indication that the Moon is anything other than a dead, uninhabited object. While there are certain elements on the Moon that are somewhat more abundant there than on Earth, the sheer cost of lifting mining and refining equipment, materials needed to sustain a working outpost with personnel, and then shipping the resulting material back to Earth is unlikely to make the process anywhere near profitable.

It would make much more sense to filter the elements (gold, for instance) out of seawater here on Earth, or if it's Helium 3, to build a production facility right here. Until we develop anti-gravity

it's all just way too expensive.

"Hey, man, if there was anything valuable on the Moon,
why would we come here to steal your belongings?"

[edit on 19-7-2007 by SuicideVirus]

What ? and do something the easy inexpensive way? Our govt? That would be too easy and would make too much sense!We have antigrav drive already, see photo in the book "Angels and Demons".