Twelve Signs That We Are Very Near the End of the World

Sod it, this world is so "S N I P" up and full of scum bags that we really do need to be eradicated from history! I just can't see it happening any time soon, so many previous predictions have ammounted to niente'!


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Originally posted by mrbocci
Sod it, this world is so "S N I P" up and full of scum bags that we really do need to be eradicated from history! I just can't see it happening any time soon, so many previous predictions have ammounted to niente'!

But that is a good sign we are very close, after so many wrong calls, we must be getting about due for one to be right? lol. It is different when ancients worldwide all depict similar scenarios and timeperiods, such as is the case with the 2012 era. The current paranoid guesswork rampant now a days which daily predicts our doom is a far less interesting type of thing. I laughed at the Y2K hoopla, yet I have not found any fault with the ancient writings like the Mayan 21/12/2012 date, Kali age ending, etc. for decades.
And I agree, as George Carlin said, 'We had our shot, it's time to let someone else have a go.'


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Blessed is he who hungers and thirsts for righteousness. The Lord will come like a thief in the night, none will know when he will come back. Holy is the Lord God on High.

In regards to Jesus not existing, there are several writings that mention Jesus one of which is the Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus. Below is some information concerning what was written.

Josephus was an aristocratic Jewish historian. The Sanhedrin placed Josephus in command of Galilee during the uprising against the Romans. He later settled in Rome following Nero's persecution of the Christians. The major purpose of his writings seems to have been to commend Judaism to Romans. A pharisee of priestly descent, Josephus wrote critically of the Zealots, who he blamed for the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 C.E.

Josephus makes two references to Jesus. In one reference, he refers to the stoning to death of James in 62 C.E., calling James "the brother of Jesus who is called Christ." The other, more significant reference to Jesus follows:
About the same time there lived Jesus, a wise man for he was a performer of marvelous feats and a teacher of such men who received the truth with pleasure. He attracted many Jews and many Greeks. He was the Christ. When Pilate sentenced him to die on the cross, having been urged to do so by the noblest of our citizens; but those who loved him at the first did not give up their affection for him. And the tribe of the Christians, who are named after him, have not disappeared to this day.

Other ancient writings also support the historical accounts mentioned in the Bible. I ask that if the historical accounts are being supported by the writers of antiquity why is it so hard to believe the non-historical accounts? Here are some sources to reference if you so choose.

Information that supports the biblical person of Nimrod or Ninus and the biblical accounts of the Assyrians.

1. Ancient German tradition claims that their oldest city, Trier, was
founded by Trever or Trebeta, a son of Ninus, king of Assyria.
"The inhabitants of Trier maintain that their city is the oldest
in all Europe," writes Josef K. L. Bihl in his textbook "In deutschen
Landen", page 69. "Trier was founded," he continues, "by Trebeta, a son
of the famous Assyrian King Ninus. In fact, one finds ... in Trier the
inscription reading, 'Trier existed for 1300 years before Rome was
rebuilt.' "

2. Ninus, according to Roman, Greek and Persian records, was the
first ruler who began the systematic conquest of the ancient world
after the death of Nimrod. He established the Assyrian Empire as the
chief power over Eastern Europe and Southwest Asia, reported DIODORUS
of Sicily in his History.

3. Jerome, who lived at the time when the Indo-Germanic tribes were
invading Europe, writes: "For 'Assur (the Assyrian) also is joined with them' " (Letter 123, sec. 16, "Nicene and
Post-Nicene Fathers"

4.Jerome was an eyewitness to the Assyrian migrations from
Mesopotamia and the shores of the Black and Caspian seas!
Now consider what Sylax, the author of the "Periplus," who lived
about 550 B.C., writes of the southern shores of the Black Sea: "The
coast of the Black Sea ... is called Assyria" (from page 261 of Perrot
and Chipiez's "History of Art in Sardinia, Judaea, Syria and Asia
Minor", Vol. II.) From there the Assyrians moved north.
Only 300 years before Jerome, the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder
declared the "Assyriani" -- the Assyrians -- were dwelling north of the
Black Sea ("Natural History", IV, 12, page 183]

Concerning Babylon and various events and persons mentioned in the scriptures

1.Herodotus, who saw Babylon a century and a half after Nebuchadnezzar was dead, described it as "standing upon a spacious plain", surrounded by a wall fifty-six miles long, so wide that a four horse chariot could be driven along the top. The wall enclosed an area of two hundred square miles. Compared to the Old City of Jerusalem, surrounded by a wall and enclosing an area of one square mile, Babylon is enormous.

2.At the outset of their history stands the figure of Hamurrappi (Hammurabi c. 2123-2081 BC), the conqueror and lawgiver through a reign of forty-three years.

3.The exact date of fall of the Tower of Babel was preserved down to Roman times. Velleius Paterculus cites from Aemilius Sura, in his "Roman History", book I, section VI, the following: "Between this time (when Rome conquered Philip, king of Macedonia) and the beginning of the reign of Ninus (Nimrod) king of the Assyrians, who was the first to hold world power, lies an interval of 1995 years." Philip was conquered in 197. Nimrod, therefore, began his sole reign in 2192. It followed a joint reign with his father Cush for 62 years, according to Julius Africanus. That places the overthrow of Babel 2254 years before the present era. The two previous years, according to the Epic of Creation, had been spent in erecting Babel. The building of the Tower may therefore be dated 2256-2254. The Bible does not specifically date this event. But it does confirm the general period: "And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided ..." (Genesis 10:25).

There are others.

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Originally posted by gionduu
In regards to Jesus not existing, there are several writings that mention Jesus one of which is the Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus. Below is some information concerning what was written.

Josephus was an aristocratic Jewish historian. The Sanhedrin placed Josephus in command of Galilee during the uprising against the Romans. He later settled in Rome following Nero's persecution of the Christians. The major purpose of his writings seems to have been to commend Judaism to Romans. A pharisee of priestly descent, Josephus wrote critically of the Zealots, who he blamed for the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 C.E.

I read that Josephus was born in 34AD, so he could not have seen Jesus himself. His writings are therefore hearsay, and not good evidence. Also, I find it hard to accept that a Jewish Pharisee who commanded the Jews who were fighting and killing Romans would later choose to settle in Rome. If he did so, wouldn't Romans be angry with him? His claims are dubious, and the key point is that he never saw Jesus himself. So far there is no report existing of a writer of that time seeing Jesus or any of his family or group at all. It is all second hand information, though the biblical sightings of him by his followers may be true, it is not good practice to quote one's own book as evidence that it is true. My book is true because it says so.

Originally posted by dgtempe
The end of times will come when YOU die. That's it. The world will always be here in one form or another.
We self destruct, not nature, not God is involved.
Mankind's evil plots and plans and inevitably the nukes will fly and yes, many will die- but most of the "world" will go on to other things.

In the event of a natural catastrophe, then this is how civilizations have been wiped out- and yes, that could and probably will happen.

I'm really more afraid of the governments (mankind) than nature. God wants us to live- I dont beleive in God's wrath.

That's the most rational summary I've seen so far, DG

Not to be self-centered, but many people don't realize that the end of the world is when YOU pass-on. (depending upon religions, of course)

Beyond that... I agree that at some point we will all blow each other up, or there will be some mass-extinction (meteor/comet). But at the end of the day, life will continue in one form or another here on the blue planet for a long, long time.

WOOOW. Could these "events" be any more vague?

1. "The growth of knowledge would accelerate at the end of time. "

REALLY!? Well I guess the world should have ended a long time ago, when man invented fire, or maybe the wheel. Honestly, throughout ALL time the growth of knowledge has accelerated.


2. "The near saturation of the gospel to every language tribe and people "

Well gosh! I guess we might as well resign ourselves to our fate then because there aren't already thousands of religions based on the same principles.


3. "The coming financial collapse in countries around the world and in the USA will be devastating and create a demand for governmental intervention at the cost of liberties"

So financial collapse means the end of the world? Personally, I don't believe monetary values have apocalyptic significance.


4. "The accelerating pace of moral decline"

Moral decline has ALWAYS been an issue. However, I'm fairly certain there are just as many good people in the world still.


5. "The accelerating growth of spiritualism and its pervasive teachings"
"Followers of writers of the occult are predicting a global initiation, a "blood bath" of some sort, before the New World Order, with Lucifier (Satan) at its head, can take over."

So a biblical site is citing writers of the occult in their predictions? Strange...


6. "The growing bond between Catholicism, Protestantism and spiritualism"

I don't pretend to know anything about Catholicism or Protestantism, but this 6th sign seems an awful lot like #2. Just worded differently and more specific.


7. "The progressive implementation of governmental regulations and enforced enumeration pave the way for the legal implementation of the Mark of the Beast"

Well, I don't believe a system like that is being implemented. Implanted devices have been experimented with(to my knowledge none have been implemented or are required anyways).


8. The May 1998 lengthy apostolic letter Dies Domini ("The Lord's Day) released by Pope John Paul II, calls for Christians to return to worship on Sunday and enact "civil legislation" to assist in that direction"

So just because someone worships on a day other than Saturday, the apocalypse is near? I'm sure there are people who worship on all different sorts of days. It's hard to argue that any day is the beginning or end of a week or a day that should/should not be worshiped on.


9. "The re-discovery of the Ark of the Covenant, and the implications to the Jewish people regarding the discovery of their Messiah's blood on the mercy seat are profound"

I recently watched a television program that claims that the Ark of the Covenant is indeed located within a small building somewhere near Jerusalem. But no one but the keeper of the ark is allowed to see it or be near it. I'm guessing it is only a replica. No one knows if it is really inside the building as it is rumored.


10. "The re-discovery of Noah's ark, Sodom & Gomorrah, the actual Red Sea crossing site...and other historic locations..."

To be honest, I don't think existence of those sites can ever be fully proven, and I don't see what effect just finding them would have.


11. "The end of 6000 years of transgression is at hand"

A lot of throwing numbers around doesn't really convince me of anything, although according to both Christian religion and the Mayan calendar, the end is near. *shrug*


12. "The end of the 70th Jubilee cycle since the Exodus"

According to the site, the 3.5 years of tribulation SHOULD have started in the fall of 2000.



It doesn't seem that if all of those are signs of the apocalypse that it will be happening soon. I'm not worried about it, anyhow.

the end of the AGE is not the same as the end of the WORLD

this planet has progressed through many AGES - that can't be denied!

and 'apocalypse' means 'unveiling' or 'revealed'....it has NOTHING to do with eschatology by default!

personally I am looking forward to the end of ignorance, fear, violence, injustice, and WAR!!!!

- which is why this present age is often called 'evil' or such in many cultural/religious traditions...

it can't get any worse, that's for sure! and hopefully we are getting smarter instead of dumber (but sometimes I wonder LOL )


gionduu -
thanks for the info about Nimrod et al...i find that interesting and i didn't know any of it! but it is of interest to me right now so thank you!

You know how I will know the end of the world is coming?

When all these asinine end of the world predictions stop completely! When people finally stop predicting and talking about it…that's when I'll start looking out.

Hi all,

First off, I'm a Catholic. I try to live my life as best as I can following my Religion's beliefs. Now I don't go to church often, but i do pray daily.

Interesting thread this is, but here is my 2 cents worth:

1- I think God is getting to a point where he wants us to change our behaviuor towards one another:

-stop killing, raping, wars, crimes, genocide, and all the horrific things we as a species have been getting away with all this time.

2- God does not want our prayers so that he will stop the cataclysmic events predicted here in threads like these. He wants us to change our ways, and pray for our families, friends and other fellow men and women.

God doesn't need us praying or begging him to stop disatrous events from becoming real, because we bring about these disasters on our selves except for natural things such as quakes and tsunamis.

Sometimes I see all the evil that we do and just wish God comes down and kicks our collective butts so we smarten up.

As for predictions, no one has the power or knowledge to see into the future, and I don't think God would reveal this knowledge to us, hence many predictions coming and going without actually coming true.

When God decides to come down and set us straight will be when He has had enough of our evil ways and he is ready to right things.

i really dont think you could possibly predict the end of the world without a phsycic or something. and a phsycic would be satanic.
and using bible versus wouldnt be right either because the bible also says,
the only ONE who knows when the world is gonna ened is GOD!!!

Do the Bible end times say that all life will be exterminated? Or that a certain amount of people will continue on?

Originally posted by bigbert81
Do the Bible end times say that all life will be exterminated? Or that a certain amount of people will continue on?

Nothing like that.

There will be illumination and healing of ALL the nations:

And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
~ Revelation 22:1-2

And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
~ Revelation 22:5

The bible actually has the happiest ending of any book I've read. Which is saying a lot. I READ a lot. A LOT.

I'm sorry everyone I did not mean to say the END as Earth and everyone on
it will just die, I meant a new Age is upon us and so we must all drop our evil
ways. Whether you are Muslim, Christian, Atheist, or whatever culture or religion you represent.

As the Mayan prophet Pacal Votan stated:
“If humanity wishes to save itself from biospheric destruction it must return to living in natural time.”

This technology will do nothing but destroy us slowly, or destroy us very quick. I am not saying we should live in the dark ages, but instead of having nukes, bombs or other offensive weapons, we can change that into light, and energy. So no one in this world has to suffer. I think we are going to enter an age where darkness inside people will be conquered by light.

The Hopi, ancient Egyptians, Kabbalists, Aborigines, and many of the indigenous people from around the world also concur that we are experiencing an ending before a new beginning. So it is not just Christianity,
but many other religions around the world that said a new age is coming.

Whether most of our population ends, or not, we will have a new beginning.
This is just what the world needs a start from all over again. Instead of having evil in it this time, we have good conquering it.

I hope this made sense to most of you or all of you!

Originally posted by niato007
2- God does not want our prayers so that he will stop the cataclysmic events predicted here in threads like these. He wants us to change our ways, and pray for our families, friends and other fellow men and women.

AMEN!!

HE wants us to LOVE OUR NEIGHBOR AS OURSELVES.
That's it.
Pretty simple yet so difficult.

As for predictions, no one has the power or knowledge to see into the future, and I don't think God would reveal this knowledge to us, hence many predictions coming and going without actually coming true.

Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he reveals his secret unto his servants the prophets.
~ Amos 3:7

The problem isn't that GOD isn't talking - the problem is that no one likes what the prophets say - it used to be because they always had bad news....and everyone wanted good news.

NOWADAYS it seems that unless we hear bad news of gloom, doom, and annhiliation, we call it a lie.

Not to mention the fact that the #1 cause of death for prophets is TALKING.

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You are absolutely right!
We also have things that cloud our mind from functioning to its potential.
We have the media, we have our jobs, our deadlines, wars, famine, and I can keep mentioning these things. According to the Mayans we are finishing a 26,000 year rotation. Once we end this rotation, we will be entering the photon belt. I am sure many of you have heard of this, if not then here is the information:

The photon belt (photon ring, manasic ring, or golden nebula) is a fringe belief largely linked to some parts of the new age movement that a belt or ring of photons is going to, depending on the source of the information, fully envelope the Earth in 2012 and possibly cause massive failure of electrical equipment with 2-3 days of total darkness or total daylight, and/or initiate some kind of spiritual transition (usually referred to as "a shift in consciousness", "the shift of the ages", or just "the shift", with the time period leading up to the shift as "the quickening"; it has also been referred to as "zero point" and ties in to various prophecies, the Mayan calendar, extraterrestrial life, etc).

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Thank you! And what you said, also, just above me, about technology and the way we live is absolutely correct, too (from my perspective).

We must learn how to COOPERATE with our planet, the universe, and the laws that govern both the tangible and the intangible reality if we are going to progress any further.

It is like something I saw on the History Channel recently (the only channel I have that I watch) about some new radical designs for personal locomotion, mainly cars.

We make them hard and unyielding and then when two meet in the same place at the same time one must fare worse than the other but usually both do poorly...at the expense of the humans within.

If we can learn not to try to fight the forces, then the force will truly be with us. It must come to us but only if we adapt to its laws (principles)...we cannot change it, chase it, or bend it.

Could you provide us with more details? The world is really ending.

Originally posted by danachua
Could you provide us with more details? The world is really ending.

NO! This AGE is drawing to an end - but FEAR NOT!

Not only because you must believe that only your body 'dies' - your mind, your memory, your SELF will live on.
But you must fear not and believe only. Believe what? That you are not an animal but a spirit in the material world. Not a beast but an angel.

AND also because the end of this age will mean things such as:

• the end of war
  
• no more hunger or homelessness
  
• release from over-legislative defunct leadership
  
• increased opportunities to learn and work
  
• freedom of religion (literal and complete world-wide)
  
• no more confusion resulting from tangled webs we weave when we first deceive
  
• natural food, clothing, and shelter (as much as possible)
  
• the end of greed's financial theocracy no more debt, high-interest credit, scams, etc...no more need to spend all your cash on insurance and gas and on and on...

What's not to like? hmm?

The end of the present state of affairs can only be a blessing for all souls! We will emerge full-grown human beings and Earth will successfully be inhabited by an intelligent civilization ready to prosper and LIVE.

So FEAR NOT. Pray to your GOD or angel when you are worried. You are never alone. You are loved. ♥

You can know I speak truth because all messengers of truth fight fear. Fear is the opposite of love - so fear not to love for love never ends, either.