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posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 12:04 AM
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Well I was reading a lot about out of body experiances and wa thinking about trying it. I was reading a book that suggested different ways on doing it.
I guess I will be using this thread as a kind of diary of my experiences.
Fell free to reply.

Today is/was july 11 I decided to do a little practiticing around 12:00 which would make it july the 12.

I started to get very relaxed. I imagined myself floating above my body. I felt a strong vibration surge through my body. It started from my toes and worked its way up through my legs my, my back then my head. It lasted for about 30 seconds. After this vibration stopped lost sensation throughout my body. A few moments after this I felt a tingling sensation fill my body and as I visualized myself hovering higher above my body I start to feel as if I was dividing and my body(soul?) rose above my physical body. I started to lose the tingling feeling from most of my body as I felt my 'soul' lift higher untill I only felt tingling in the bottom of my head. Around this time I started getting very nervous and scared so I calmed myself down. So I decided to try to lift my arm up and felt a great suction as I tried to lift my arm higher. The suction became very great as if my arm was about to pop out of my body, I got even more scared, freaked out lost concentration, opened my eyes. The suction feeling was lost, and I walked over to my computer to write this...lol

Also I lost all awareness of my surrounding --- I mean i knew I was in my room but i couldnt hear anything and basically paid no real attention to anything around me,... Is this what I should be feeling.

BTW this was my first (real) attempt to and out of body experience.
also any tips/anything to be concerned about and how to not loose my concentration and how to stay calm??



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 12:06 AM
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If you ever attain that transitional point again, in your head spin your body and you will spin out of your body and then your experience is really about to begin
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posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 12:42 AM
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My OBEs are always spontaneous, so it sounds like you're doing something right if you're doing it with a technique. I've never done the spinning thing. Once the vibrations are strong, you should be able to lift right out. I think the main thing is to not try to force them. Let them wash over you, take over. That makes them stronger.

Your hearing should change, that's normal--you'll probably hear some really strange noises, often a rushing sound. I've heard a high pitched squeaking as I lifted out, and other times I've heard my name being called. The name calling is very weird because it's like telepathy, like the essence of someone communicating a thought with a sound that translates directly to a communication without ever being in a language, if that makes sense.

Visually it will change too. Once you're out, the lights will settle down and you should see a radiance of some sort, so you can see even if the room is dark, but I think it might help if it's not pitch dark so it's easier to get your bearings. If you mix up your directions, you're likely to travel somewhere aimlessly, not knowing where you are. Once you leave your home it's likely you'll get lost. Always happens to me.

One thing I've never been able to do is go somewhere nearby and simple that I've planned in advance. It always seems once I'm out I either forget where I wanted to go or I get lost along the way and end up somewhere unfamiliar. I don't know why that is.

Good luck! I'll be interested in hearing if you take an excursion or two. Never know what you'll find out there! By the way, there are people, or something, out there. You'll know when they get close, and they don't seem friendly.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 01:28 AM
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yeufo

I have only had 3 OBE's that I can vividly remember, the last one culminating in the most profound experience in my life. I was shown the "Hall of Records" and a star map which was fully interactive that you could pick a spot in the universe and travel there in seconds.

I was shown a water planet ( Totally covered in water ) that was totally still without any waves and a purple algae growing inches below the surface. Then back in the Hall I was shown a map that totally confused me and I still really don't know what I was shown to be honest.

The map was of an orientation showing continents and water not unlike our Earth but the continents were all ribbon like extending from the poles down and evenly distrubted in the oceans unlike the absence of land mass in our pacific.

The wooshing or buzzing sensation is exilerating and is more intense that any other sensation ( Orgasm included ) and that coupled with flying is somethign that everyone needs to experience as its life changing.

My final experience was extremely disappointing as I asked a stupid question and was sumarily kicked out with me jolting up in my bed, making the experience totally memorable and vivid.

[edit on 12-7-2007 by mazzroth]



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by mazzroth
yeufo

I have only had 3 OBE's that I can vividly remember, the last one culminating in the most profound experience in my life. I was shown the "Hall of Records" and a star map which was fully interactive that you could pick a spot in the universe and travel there in seconds.


mazzroth, awesome! I can tell you've done the "weird place" thing and I totally believe you. I'd really like to have an extra-planetary experience like that.

I found it interesting that you said you were "shown." I was once flown to the sun with entities guiding me on each side. For lack of a better word, I'd call them angels because that's what they seemed to be. They radiated love and made me feel euphoric. They "showed" me the sun and the sunspots. Then they flew me back to earth, and I returned to my body feeling better than I've ever felt in my life.

I've never told anyone this, but after what you experienced, you might believe it. I once found myself in a different plane devoid of anything but these huge face cards (like playing cards!) standing up. They were maybe 30 or 40 feet tall. I was looking at them as they sort of slowly rippled up and down their length. Then something (someone?) came along and chased me away. I was forced out into blank, dark space. I was freezing cold, lost, frightened, and I quickly returned to my body.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 04:52 AM
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yeufo

To elaborate on "I was shown" is very difficult indeed to explain in words, the best I can do is that I was guided by a familiar entity. This entity kind of felt like my higher self but it could also be described as being a spirit guide I guess.

I never saw or were introduced to this entity but familiarity definitely was there even though I cannot really put into words the interaction. I have had a few years now to analyze my final experience and I cant help but feel there is this higher self that patiently resides in me and when im asleep it screams at me to wake up to what is real.

The void you speak of I have also experienced and I can tell you that for me it was a reminder of were I had been for eons of time previously and that I should do certain things so I don't return there.

[edit on 12-7-2007 by mazzroth]



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by mazzroth
To elaborate on "I was shown" is very difficult indeed to explain in words, the best I can do is that I was guided by a familiar entity. This entity kind of felt like my higher self but it could also be described as being a spirit guide I guess.


I know what you mean, except with me it really feels like something external, but when my name was being called as I mentioned before, it was like you mentioned as a call to your higher self. I was lying in bed and had just woken up. That really creepy feeling came over me that happens just before the vibrations usually begin. That's when I "heard" a sound, not loud, but piercing right into me, over and over, and the sound translated, not in language, but meant, me: noise, noise, noise = Jack, Jack, Jack, calling me over and over. So finally I just sat up like a shot and yelled, what? what? what do you want? and my girlfriend, previously fast asleep is looking at me and says, "What now?"
But after I did that, I was never "called" again, and I think it was a stupid mistake to not try to communicate instead of losing it the way I did.


The void you speak of I have also experienced and I can tell you that for me it was a reminder of were I had been for eons of time previously and that I should do certain things so I don't return there.


My feeling at the time was just like that--that I might be stuck there and it seemed almost like a punishment, a banishment.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 07:21 AM
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Can OBE'S be quite dangerous though? I'm a firm believer of something else other than this dimension we know to be 'real life,' but if we do end up in another dimension - i.e an OBE then surely the creatures, entities there will have a better understanding of that area, and aren't you basically just your soul flying around. Isn't that dangerous? What if you don't make it back to your physical body? Are their manipulators in the other dimension who try and get hold of your spirit? Are there evil entities there or are you fully protected by your 'doorkeepers' or 'spirit guardians?'

Or is an OBE just something we don't fully understand scientifically yet and we don't leave out body and fly around in spirit...it's just a really deep mind bending alteration. Like an enhanced state or dreamlike state? So it wouldn't be dangerous because it's not actually happening.

I'm just intrigued of the dangers that leaving your physical body could entail as you're dealing with another dimension and entities that know that place like the back of their hands - and well...we don't.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 08:09 AM
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Well no I don't think it is dangerous and here is why. As long as we live in this world our spirit will be connected to our body in some sort of way. We cannot be possessed out of body because there still is an energy connection from our soul to our body. I was told at the thought of your physical body or the wanting to return to your physical body you will automatically be there in an instance.

Also science will never figure out what this is. Until there time comes, it is an answer to the unexplainable.
Also I highly doubt that it is fake because people say that it is extremely vivid. I doubt the mind can even portray what it would feel like to stick your hand in a wall.

And one more, why would so many people have similar results if it were not real?

I'm going to try again tonight, is there a way to calm myself down when I get to that stage again??? I get scared when the vibrations come.



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by navd2
Well no I don't think it is dangerous and here is why. As long as we live in this world our spirit will be connected to our body in some sort of way. We cannot be possessed out of body because there still is an energy connection from our soul to our body. I was told at the thought of your physical body or the wanting to return to your physical body you will automatically be there in an instance.


Sounds reasonable, but I've also heard of people having a hard time finding their way back to their bodies. Sounds quite scary if you ask me. I'm all for enlightenment and to be at one with the universe, but leaving my body for good only to be found dead by family members and for me to become one with the spirit world too early would stop me from doing it. Also like I said, you're leaving to another dimension of sorts. Who knows what lurks in those shadows.


Also science will never figure out what this is. Until there time comes, it is an answer to the unexplainable.
Also I highly doubt that it is fake because people say that it is extremely vivid. I doubt the mind can even portray what it would feel like to stick your hand in a wall.


I've had my toe stuck under a brick if that helps. It bloody hurts. But seriously, science is very vast and it's something I keep yapping on about all the time. Just because humans can't see things doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just because humans can't smell certain smells, doesn't mean the smell doesn't exist. Our senses aren't as good as some creatures. My point being that the science we currently understand - or should I say the science the general public is aware of if very, very small, and is a tiny proportion of what is actually happening in this vast universe.

Also I didn't say "it was fake." Just as we don't know about science and even to the point of not knowing what creatures exist on our own planet at the bottom of the oceans...we don't know 100% how the brain fully operates. My point was that OBE'S could be an advanced state of sleep / body shut down. Again, let me stress that this in no way makes it less remarkable and amazing / exhilarating, just that we might not actually be leaving our bodies, but we might be connecting to another dimension only with our minds.


And one more, why would so many people have similar results if it were not real?

I'm going to try again tonight, is there a way to calm myself down when I get to that stage again??? I get scared when the vibrations come.


Again, I didn't say it wasn't real. I won't repeat what I said above. It happens to a lot of people, granted, so therefore you must reach a point of spirituality. I'm not a skeptic, I've had contact with spirits over a number of years so I'm quite the opposite. I'm a firm believer in the supernatural. And from the number of amazing accounts of OBE'S I've read over the years, it seems their accounts describe you leaving your body and flying around in another time and space.

I was merely putting another dish of food on the table to add another twist / way of looking at OBE'S. What if it's just your mind/brain waves tapping into another dimension? I'm pretty certain the brain holds more than we know and will ever know for a good while at least, and I believe over time, us humans have lost a spiritual part of our brains due to dumbing down by games, tv and general media entertainment. Shamans and tribes in South America and Africa are probably using their spiritual side of their brains more than we could ever imagine.

So to conclude, I am a firm believer that OBE'S happen, and I never discredited peoples reports of them. Just I like (in an educational/interested manner) to delve deeper into theories and topics, and I was suggesting an alternative to what might be happening to the human body in a state of OBE.

[edit on 12-7-2007 by Arawn]



posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 08:36 PM
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Ok what was is there a way that I could protect myself if i had an obe.
Also I apologize If you viewed what I said as negative. I meant no harm by it and did not mean to assume any false things.

I would also like to know, do I need protection or no. Some people say yes some no. But I would like to mostly go the safe wa and seek protection what practices could I take to protect myself

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posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by Arawn
Or is an OBE just something we don't fully understand scientifically yet and we don't leave out body and fly around in spirit...it's just a really deep mind bending alteration. Like an enhanced state or dreamlike state? So it wouldn't be dangerous because it's not actually happening.


I think that's a common and valid question. The difference is that when you experience it, you understand that it's more like the opposite of dreaming. When the vibrations hit you, you're very awake. Having said that, it's impossible even for the experiencer to discount some type of halucinatory effect that's taking place. It's just that it seems quite real. To tell the truth, if I had never experienced an OBE, I'd probably think it a bit outlandish.


Originally posted by navd2
I would also like to know, do I need protection or no. Some people say yes some no.


I'm one of the "no" people. But then again, maybe there are places or activities that present dangers I'm unaware of. All I know is, when I want to return, I do. I've been very frightened by "entities" on occasion, but no harm done that I'm aware of.



posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 06:19 PM
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o. ok yea that does make sense there is just one thing I want to make sure of. If i just think about my boy or just will to be back in it i will automatically snap back in correct.... I don't want to get lost or anything



posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by navd2
If i just think about my body or just will to be back in it i will automatically snap back in correct.... I don't want to get lost or anything


That's the common wisdom. The caveat for me though is that I often forget I have a body to return to. It seems like after traveling around awhile, I basically just accept the condition as normal. When I get frightened, sometimes I remember to "return," but other times I go flying off in retreat somewhere other than my body.



posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 07:40 PM
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Well I dont plan to go exploring just yet so... Don't plan to be out for just a few moments this time, Is there a way that I can remind myself?



posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 07:44 PM
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also I do have one more question.. I have the oobe version of the brain wave mind voyages and was wondering if this would help any...
here is a llink
CLICK HERE

It kinda like syncs your b rainwaves from alpha beta theta finally to delta to helpp induce oobe... any thoughts about this



posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 07:56 PM
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I'd definitely try that. Since I've never been able to willfully induce OBEs, I've been planning to get something from the Monroe Institute, which you're probably familiar with. They have the Hemi-sync system, which sounds similar to what you have.



posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 08:00 PM
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hmm which one from the monroe institute



posted on Jul, 14 2007 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by navd2
hmm which one from the monroe institute


This one.

That's $100. The other is the Gateway Series, which covers a lot more than just OBEs. I'm thinking about getting it, but that one is $500, yikes. The other cool thing they have are pillows with speakers in them. That would be nice instead of using earphones (which you have to use to get the hemi-sync effect).

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posted on Jul, 14 2007 @ 01:56 PM
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Well i meant o me it sounds pretty cool. Seems a little expensive though with that price.

I do know that the hemi-sync technology works well because the cd I have is great. In about 10 min or less you feel so relaxed. It supposed to bring you all the way down to theta-delta wave-length. I guess it's pretty cool. Does help with relaxation / meditation too.

I haven't used it yet to induce a oobe yet;. was going to try it yesterday but freaked out. I need preperation for it. Guess I can meditate on it or something.



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