Taser goes wireless

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Taser International is about to roll out its new, wireless weapon in Chicago on Monday. It's a shocking projectile, fired from a 12-gauge shotgun, called the XREP....the projectile weights just 14 grams (half an ounce), is less than .1 cubic inches and has a range of at least thirty meters. Its effects are similar to the latest Taser, the X26 – it will bring down anyone instantly, however tough, fanatical or drugged-up. It features "groundbreaking flight stabilization and microprocessor-controlled intelligent electrode selection technologies." And it was developed for military use with funding from the Office of Naval Research, with the largest contract in the company's history"

Electric bullets to zap people 30 yards+ away - there are going to be plenty of takers for this one...

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While I can find about 2 things this could be used for in a good way, I imagine it iwll be used to taser old people, pregnant women and children as the old one was used for.

I reccommend that if anyone ever watches a police officer taser a child or pregnant woman or old person, YOU BEAT THAT COP TO THE GROUND, handcuff him with his own cuffs, call the Sherriff and file charges against the cop for assault.

Since it sounds as if this taser is even more powerful than the one before, I can't help but wonder if the potential for abuse will not be greater...

Hmmmm this is some deadly stuf man because fire 2 rounds by accident then you will get killed if not hospitalized.

Yhea, everything just tends to have a flip side doesn't it. Kinda makes me think of that starwars movie.....4th one I think, where the storm troopers are after Lea (however you spell that) and one of them says "set your blasters to stun". Hell this would give the spec ops guys a real easy way to sneak in and quietly bring down a target.

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Maestro

One would think they (the governments) would have to regulate them like hand guns? I for see good old police state America taking it to the next level!

They will like that in riots, just shoot the front people, so they can't escape. This way, you catch anyone you want.

I'm pretty sure there could be some way to ``wear an armor`` to stop the projectile from stunning you.

Hear ye all protesters against the NWO...

Thor Shield protection

Thor Shield (TS) is a protective fabric lining that provides protection from non-lethal energy weapons such as TASER(TM)*, Stun Guns and animal control devices such as cattle prods. The product has been tested with stun products up to 900,000 volts.

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That armor might be useful for US troops - it would ensure that 'friendly fire' has no real effect.

According to thr article, the Taser projectile was commissioned by the Marine Corps for building clearance: "shoot them all and let security sort them out"! It could save a lot of lives.

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
While I can find about 2 things this could be used for in a good way, I imagine it iwll be used to taser old people, pregnant women and children as the old one was used for.

I reccommend that if anyone ever watches a police officer taser a child or pregnant woman or old person, YOU BEAT THAT COP TO THE GROUND, handcuff him with his own cuffs, call the Sherriff and file charges against the cop for assault.

You first.. If you aren't shot dead I'll think about it...

You know what, women children and old people can be very deserving of this shocking experience.

Pregnant women shouldn't be putting their child in harms way by acting in a manner that deserves such treatment.

Originally posted by Wembley

Electric bullets to zap people 30 yards+ away - there are going to be plenty of takers for this one...

scratches head I would have sworn there was already a projectile based stunner. And one that used two parallel conductive liquid streams, and another that used a pair of UV lasers.

Not from Taser, though.

It won't take much of a technological leap to produce an electroshock sniper round which will kill instantly if it hits anywhere on the body at any range.

I can envisage 'cruise bullets', loaded into CCTV cameras, few taps on a keybord in the control room identifies a target, the dude that looks like a terriost, the next time he's in range of the CCTV camera ZAP (sizzle!)

yep there are several taser like devices that are wireless. Military applications I think. These projectiles seem a lot like the sticky shocker used in the splinter cell games by sam fisher. those have been around for a while.

Me I'm excited about the taser protection technology. As i believe the taser is misused and more often than not used basically to inflict pain for compliance or torture than to stop dangerous people. I'd like to get my hands on the Thors Shield. looks pretty cool to me.

Originally posted by maestro46...and one of them says "set your blasters to stun". Hell this would give the spec ops guys a real easy way to sneak in and quietly bring down a target.

Heh, they call that a Gerber LMF, or an MP5SD4 if you've got some background noise.

I bet this thing takes batteries. Hopefully not some freaky sort you can't use in anything else, more weight to lug around.

TB: "I would have sworn there was already a projectile based stunner. And one that used two parallel conductive liquid streams, and another that used a pair of UV lasers. "

Yes, the blog.wired.com...mentions five other electroshock projectiles, and the liquid Taser and the laser one (and a couple of others).

But this one will be the first one fielded - a six-month trial starting this fall.

It only weights half an ounce, so the battery is probably quite small

Not sure how quiet they'll be. The CO2 popping off to launch the thing could tip of a vigilant sentry. I'm sure they can silence them but still. next getting tasered is never quiet. people scream their heads off. so for stealth probably not the greatest.

For shoot first and ask questions later like when you have to do a dynamic entry into a terrorist stronghold in the middle of some urban and everybody must be neutralized but interrogated later at the same time. better to taser Osama than shoot him and hope he doesn't bleed to death and deal with the fact he still might want to shoot back. The IR ones could be used by snipers to taser down a sentry then SEALs can run up and zip tie him and move on. maybe have a quick injector for demerol to stop them from thrashing or alerting their buddies.

An experience in reading may or may not be required for this.

Firstly, despite your fears and imaginations, it is clearly written that this projectile is fired from a 12 gauge shotgun. Very loud, no batteries. It's not a weapons system in it's own right, it's more like a bean bag round with some oomph to it. Unless you're mounting shotties on CCTV cameras now...well, it is less-lethal, like a baton, and people need to realize that. Less lethal means it's better than being shot, but can still kill.

As for riots, why protect rioters? I'm all for using this thing as a supplement or in conjunction with bean bag rounds.

Definitely an interesting step up.

DE

Originally posted by BASSPLYRmaybe have a quick injector for demerol to stop them from thrashing or alerting their buddies.

Off topic I know, and I don't know Navy procedure for squat, but other guys use Versed. "It's the versatile sedative!" You can use it for anything from minor sedation, to interrogation (just add scopolamine!) to surgery.

Originally posted by DeusExFirstly, despite your fears and imaginations, it is clearly written that this projectile is fired from a 12 gauge shotgun. Very loud, no batteries.

Alas, you are quite incorrect. It is indeed fired from a 12ga, but unless there's little fairies turning a generator inside the payload, a simple scan of the OP's post would reveal to you that you'll be needing something to run the "microprocessor-controlled intelligent electrode selection technologies", not to mention that the key word "electrode" implies something you've obviously overlooked.

In fact, 10 seconds of looking at the thing shows me that it's some sort of cylindrical cell, probably lithium for density, and not a chemistry that's inherently rate-limited like thionyl chloride would be, since the thing discharges the cells in a bit over 20 seconds.

You're trying to teach your granny to suck eggs on this sort of design, Deus.

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Alas, you are quite incorrect. It is indeed fired from a 12ga, but unless there's little fairies turning a generator inside the payload, a simple scan of the OP's post would reveal to you that you'll be needing something to run the "microprocessor-controlled intelligent electrode selection technologies", not to mention that the key word "electrode" implies something you've obviously overlooked.

I may not be an engineer, but I have the impression that this electrode business is the object wot discharges electricity into the bad guy. This electricity comes from the payload, not some weird-ass attachment to your pump-action.

You're trying to teach your granny to suck eggs on this sort of design, Deus.

On a technical basis, probably. But I have an understanding of firearms, and there ain't no attachments to your shotgun on this one. No CO2 canisters to make it super quiet, no batteries to chunk into your gun.

DE

Originally posted by DeusEx

I may not be an engineer, but I have the impression that this electrode business is the object wot discharges electricity into the bad guy. This electricity comes from the payload, not some weird-ass attachment to your pump-action.

Nor did I ever say that it was.

On a technical basis, probably. But I have an understanding of firearms, and there ain't no attachments to your shotgun on this one. No CO2 canisters to make it super quiet, no batteries to chunk into your gun.

DE

How about that, I also have an understanding of them. That would be BASSPLYR with the CO2 though, and no, no one ever said that batteries were involved with the shotgun.

My comment was that the thing probably required batteries (it does) and that they'd be weird and non-standard (they are) and you'd end up rucking them around (you will), although they're pretty darn small, and the entire load is smaller than I'd thought it would be.

Here's what it looks like ... sort of. There's some bits missing from the artist's conception of it leaving the barrel. It has a trailing wire as part of the overall "microprocessor selected electrode" fun.

Now with external linked goodness - internal module

The badminton birdie

An artist's conception of someone firing it

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