UFO dogfight - Multple witnesses

rense.com link

I haven't heard of anything like this happening in centuries. Does anyone else know of other alleged dogfights between ufos?

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[edit on 5-7-2007 by Bspiracy]

Well, aside it being from the worst source in the world, its an intresting story, and if a sonic boom happen, just about everyone would have heard it, and those that were sleeping, might have very well been awakened.

Until there is a source other then Rense, it means just about nothing

It would break the sound barrier IF it had sound because it would catch up and eventually pass its own sound. Now i haven't seen any reports or ideas that "UFOs" make enough sound to effect a sonic boom. Perhaps an earth based aircraft and something else which may not be alien. Who knows. I don't buy it simply due to the "sonic boom" comment.

MHO and 2 cents

The story originates from here:

www.hbccufo.org...

He has multiple eyewitness reports listed.

Aliens come from light years away just to have a skirmish in our atmosphere?


I think it is amusing and improbable enough that they come from so far only to carve up cows and stick things up our bottoms.

Sighting date: 16th August 1997

Nine neighbours claim to have seen an amazing Star Wars - style UFO battle over their homes in Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland..

Stunned David Ledger and his girlfriend Karen Williams watched as a huge orange object cruised silently overhead as they took their dogs for a midnight walk.

Soon more star shaped craft appeared - and the couple frantically roused neighbours in to witness the sighting.

David, 35, said: "The Orange object covered three - quarters of the sky in about 30 seconds then stopped.

"What looked like a shooting star zig-zagged towards it and it shot off in the opposite direction. This happened at least five times. One UFO passed right over our heads."

All nine friends watched as the glittering craft attacked and dodged each other in a 45-minute lightshow.

Another witness, labourer David Walker, said: "They weren't shooting stars. Shooting stars do not stop, hang about for a minute then fly away again."

going on in the sky and we just locked the door and ran down to where everyone had gathered.

"We stood and watched with everyone else. There were loads of pod-like lights zipping around the sky, but they weren't going straight - they were weaving from side to side, gliding in front and behind each other.

"I had grabbed our video camera but it didn't record it clearly. There was so much going on and it must have lasted for a good couple of hours because it was still going on when we decided to go home."

Amazingly Steven and his pal David Walker had experienced their own close encounter, two years earlier, walking on country backroads towards Cowdenbeath.

Stephen said: "I was already convinced about UFOs. David and I watched a large silver object, shaped like a teardrop, descend into woods near Kirkcaldy, two years ago. We never really talked about it. Now and again we'd bring it up between ourselves.

"We watched this craft for ages, hovering just above the woods about 100 yards from the road.

"It was shiny silver, more a sort of silvery grey metallic, but it hung around for ages, and when it turned, its underside was just a dazzling light.

"Now I was standing again with David watching another phenomenon."

David, 21, said: "It was unbelievable. My wife Nicola and I heard all this shouting so we went to have a look from our verandah.

Everyone was out in the garden below so Nicola and I joined them.

"At first we couldn't see anything. Then we saw all these white lights and four or five of them were flying in some sort of pattern, weaving and diving from side to side. They were travelling very fast. One went behind another and it disappeared then the same thing happened again. It really was very unusual. None of us had ever seen anything like it before.

"They weren't shooting stars because they did not fall and they did not leave a trail behind them. Also, shooting stars do not stop, hang about for a minute then fly away again."

Another witness, social care worker Terry March, also rushed outside.

He said: "I saw a star-like object which was being attacked by another similar object. Then I saw a large flash, like a laser."

And Alfonso Clark, 23, said: "I am now positive there is much more to this than meets the eye. Before all this happened I'd have found it all pretty hard to believe."

Jim Fay and his son Mark were watching TV when David came banging on their door.

Jim, 49, said: "Both of us rushed outside to see what all the commotion was.

"We watched four or five lights, all travelling sideways, Criss-crossing over each other, cutting through each other's path with the most amazing precision. All this activity seemed to be heading towards the River Forth.We watched it for about 35 minutes. We couldn't believe what we were seeing."

Mark, 13, said: "I only told a couple of my pals about it because I thought everyone would think I was mad.

"Dad and I watched these lights. They were like stars only much too fast, cutting through each other's path, sometimes in front, sometimes behind but they moved sideways, not in front of each other.

"I was glad David had shouted on us or else we'd have missed it."

What if they dont like us?Uh SCARY!!!I want my mommy! This is the most incredible multiple witness story I have ever heard. I hope one of them is on our side. Amazing times we live in. I would like to see how believable the witnesses were on video, See how the storys match up, and investigate the connections between witnesses.I read peoples energy well from their voice and body language.I can almost always tell a hoax(DR,DB) from video interviews, and how the story changes between video interviews.

[edit on 5-7-2007 by dntwastetime]

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Aliens come from light years away just to have a skirmish in our atmosphere?

Perhaps it was one of theirs vs. one of our knock-offs. Food for thought.

Where's the footage? Can they prove these witnesses exist? or they just saying multiple people saw it and it was just someones imagination?

After reading the reports I must say it is very compelling!

Either these people have all collaborated this story together, or this is the real deal. I hope more witnesses come forward.

This sounds exactly like what I tried to describe to you.

Weather it be alien to alien or alien to human this is how battles happen.I have written before at least about the Grey' that they will try to take the battles out over the water they don't want ships crashing on our lands.

With the Grey's they will do battle if another is trying to interfere with what they consider there's. If the weapon looked like a energy blast/burst/bolt then I go with battle.

As much as you have heard about the Grey's being bad it's not so, they are not all bad. They are actually protecting us.

If one of the objects was ours the aliens WOULD NOT have shot first.

I think this is interestig something is going on.

Interesting.. well for all we know it might be a factions of alien races or galactic organization .. i mean
aliens do visits.. and each of them has their agendas..

possibility for some skirmish in our atmosphere is off course very low..

but i can image a faction of "aliens had a fight with a another alien faction who might be against that aliens agendas motives.

well i just thinking outside the box. no harm to figure out some hypothetical theories

In my opinion i believe we are not alone and i know there are some who watching over us or study us..


but to be witness to alien spaceship dogfight must been amazing .. i envy those witnesses

Wow that's pretty interesting. I'm usually pretty skeptical about most UFO/Alien stories online considering the amount of hoaxes but the eyewitness testimony is very compelling and seems at least to be genuine so far.

Could be a hoax though, but I'd like to see more on this if anything.

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Aliens come from light years away just to have a skirmish in our atmosphere?

You don't even know where they come from or what they want, assuming you even believe they exist.

If any of this is real, for all we know there could be factions out there in conflict over control of earth and its resources (including humanity). I wouldn't conclusively rule this possible scenario out till you actually find out who or what they are.






[edit on 5-7-2007 by lee anoma]

What I find hard to believe is that it went on for hours and no one got a pic? Conveniently, the video was too blurry? If this happened to me, I know I would be snapping dozens of pics in the hopes of a few turning out ok.

BTW I'm talking about the UK sighting.

[edit on 5-7-2007 by TheComte]

I think the use of ''dog fight'' sounds wrong. If they were actually battling it out in the skies wouldnt they have been suffering damage or even crashing down to earth? Maybe peices from the crafts couldve been shot off and fallen.

Originally posted by TheComte
What I find hard to believe is that it went on for hours and no one got a pic? Conveniently, the video was too blurry? If this happened to me, I know I would be snapping dozens of pics in the hopes of a few turning out ok.

BTW I'm talking about the UK sighting.

[edit on 5-7-2007 by TheComte]

I have a digital stills camera and an old fashioned camcorder. If there was a UFO fight outside right now I'm not sure I could get a "good" film of it. Only a professional with the right equipment could capture anything decent at night, in my opinion.I had a close up daylight sighting a couple of years back. As I ran for my camera the craft moved slowly upwards and away. In the few seconds it took to get the camera, switch it on (whilst running) and get the craft located through the viewfinder it was up and away and I got a black dot on all my photos which, "could be anything". If I hadn't gone for the camera I'd have been able to get a good look at the object, maybe make a few good drawings later. Instead I was so distracted by trying to get a good shot I missed most of it.The only way to avoid this mistake is to have a camera at the right settings for time of day, light, distance etc. hanging round your neck at all times. Even then there's that couple of seconds delay in getting it switched on and aimed.

Hmmm going on for hours and no footage, no photos, no nothing. Sounds very fishy to me. So they had avideo camera and it didnt record it clearly. Noone else had a camera phone, digital camera, or other video camera. All of those people, went on forever, and noone recorded it??

They did record some of it but the film wasn't good. So I read. I quite believe that.

Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Aliens come from light years away just to have a skirmish in our atmosphere?

I think it is amusing and improbable enough that they come from so far only to carve up cows and stick things up our bottoms.

I am interested in where you found research to back up your claim that Aliens come from light years away? Please share your sources, I eagerly await your further reply.

[edit on 5/7/07 by Rhain]

I really have a strong feeling that each of those statements was written by th esame one person.

There seems to be something very similar about the personality and writing style of the witness.

I am by no means a writing, speech analysist, it is just something that appears to me. Maybe someone with real knowledge in that area could tell me if I am right or wrong.