Steorn's Orbo "free-energy" machine demonstrated!

Whats taking the 'experts' so long to prove it either a fake or real..is'nt 6 months long enough for the collective brains to say yes or no?!? Either its doing it or not c'mon guys...:-S

Incidentally I sure hope it is'nt a break thru like the Segway..

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Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
If there IS a next demonstration, we should start an ATS point betting pool of some sort.

lol I second that!

Originally posted by archon79
Putting on my tin foil hat I will say the reason for this is obvious. Various entities are directing some sort of energetic beam weapon to disrupt the workings of their device.

Ahh yes its very obviously the infamous anti free energy beam weapon...

Of coarse if this were the case then steorn could simply release detailed information on how to construct their device on the INTERNET. Then it would be replicated in various unknown locations around the planet by many people thus proving their claims....

Originally posted by SCICAN
Could This be the device?

It certainly does appear to be self powered!! All you have to do is turn it yourSELF!!

Ok joking aside does anyone know if that is or is not the steorn demonstrator model??

Edit: Nevermind I doubt this is a video of the steorn demonstration prototype due to the fact that the video was posted on February 12, 2007....

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People, get a grip on reality! there is no such thing as free energy!!! Steorn is a hoax!

Originally posted by SCICAN Could This be the device?

As mentioned, this came out quite a while ago and has noting to do with Steorn - a pic. of the real demo was posted earlier.

What I find interesting about the 'fake' is although it is of a very high build quality, the video itself shows nothing - indeed, the 'stop-frame' crap used makes it fustrating to watch. Which I think is intentional!!!

Probably the first attempt by vested interests to discredit Steorn. Who knows, 'they' may also be behind the demo failure.

That said, I recall reading about some american inventor who had managed to raise some serious financial backing based on actual evidence of his gadgets over-unit output. Unfortunately, when he took it out of his workshop the thing just stopped working - sound familiar?
Turned out that the gizmo was tapping into overhead high voltage lines for it's power...

Sorry, can't find the link to this story...

master p
i bet you think steven mark TPU is a hox too...

look it up do some research and get back to us.

Awww, how dissaponting. Didn't the 22 jurors build a working example? This reeks.

Originally posted by pjslug
Please explain the difference between dark energy and zero point energy.

Be happy to, in another thread some other time. Remind me in a week or so. have to many projects I need to finis right now... In the meantime check out thunderbolts.org... for a background on the electric universe theory...

As far as I can tell, they are both unseen forces that apparently describe one and the same with respect to pulling energy out of thin air for use with a mechanical device.

Well "pulling energy out of thin air" implies getting energy from nowhere and its not a great way to describe it.

For example take radio waves... you cannot see them, you cannot feel the energy (unless you are close to the transmitter ) yet any radio receiver can pull that energy "out of thin air"

Those same radio waves would eventually reach the other end of the galaxy... albeit highly degraded

In the same way all the energy created (or converted from matter) in the known universe is radiating through space. In other words there are huge quantities of energy of all forms and frequencies all through space.

If a device was created that could draw on any of this energy, it would seem for all intent and purpose to be "coming from thin air", but would not violate any currently understood laws of physics

Well maybe one... the law that says mainstream scientists get upset when lay people make fantstic discoveries that ruin their pet theories

Zero Point energy can be described sinply as the energy that still exists at absolute zero, when current laws say that everything should stop at absolute zero. Turns out this is not the case... and at first scientists said this energy was minute in quantity.... Turns out this is not the case either

Zero Point energy gets its name from Zero degrees absolute temperature

I'm not an expert on either so maybe you can enlighten me.

Google is your friend LOL I will help when I can



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Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
Of course, eventually they'll inspect their magnets and realize we swapped out three for slugs...

Hmmm that's twice that has been mentioned... You know something we don"t?


Robert Bigelow wanted to launch inflatable space modules for future hotels in space... No one heard much about it... he was very quiet and "camera shy"...

He had difficulties getting NASA to help him launch (they refused then got mad when he went to Russia to launch)

The first most of us heard about it, even here in Las Vegas is when he held a press conference AFTER it was launched successfully, inserted into orbit abd fully operational..

The point is why would you set yourself up for ridicule with a chance that a first time live demo might not work? I would make several films of several test runs... then set it up already in motion and unveil it to the public.

Sure there forum is swamped... they claimed it works and they would show us... and they offered a demo once before Aug/Sep 2006... that was delayed as well.

This makes no sense to market the hipe, when you have no test footage or spare model. I will give them the benefit of the doubt... why not? nothing to lose by "wait and see" but it doesn't make sense

Putting on my tin foil hat I will say the reason for this is obvious. Various entities are directing some sort of energetic beam weapon to disrupt the workings of their device.

Now THIS makes the most sense of all... now why didn't I think of that?



That would do the trick though

So much for changing the world.
The demo is over, the feeds are gone, even the kinetica website is down (says bandwidth exceeded). It looks like it was designed for failure.

It turns out the CEO gave only 3 days to design, built, test and setup the demo-device. However he invested months and a sackfull of euros on banners, T-shirts and such.

I've never seen such a retarded CEO in my life. He is sitting on the tech (assuming its real) since last 4 years and mostly spends his time telling lies on his own forum.

This was a real sad day for me.

Originally posted by omelette
Turned out that the gizmo was tapping into overhead high voltage lines for it's power...

Sorry, can't find the link to this story...

Now THAT is interesting!!! So that device was syphoning power from the electromagnetic field surrounding the power lines... with the power lines at least 20 feet away? And not connected by wires?

And no one finds this interesting?

I want one... I live near power lines Need to find that link!!!

If this guy was a paid dis-info agent, don't you all think he did an excellent job?

Look at the hope he mustered up, then crushed everyone's hope like an ant.

If someone powerful and in control wanted to stir up a lot of skeptics on the internet, they would just take a few hundred thousand here and there, out of their hundred of billions of dollars and fund some "Red Herrings" every six months, this way when the real deal comes out no one would ever listen.

Kind of like the story about "Crying Wolf" Remember that one?

Now THAT is interesting!!! So that device was syphoning power from the electromagnetic field surrounding the power lines... with the power lines at least 20 feet away? And not connected by wires?

I thought this was a pretty well known phenomena.

It's perfectly feasable (and illegal...) to 'tap' energy from HV lines - all you basically need is a big coil of wire to absorb the EMF and the regulating electronics to use this voltage. Many people have been prosecuted for this.

There was a farmer somewhere who ran a long line parallel to a HV distribution line that ran through his property. There was enough electromagnetic coupling to the line that he could run quite a bit of his farm off the parallel line. IIRC he was eventually prosecuted for stealing electricity even though there was no physical tap. I thought it was pretty clever, but apparently the judge wasn't convinced.

External Source

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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by omelette
Turned out that the gizmo was tapping into overhead high voltage lines for it's power...

Sorry, can't find the link to this story...

Now THAT is interesting!!! So that device was syphoning power from the electromagnetic field surrounding the power lines... with the power lines at least 20 feet away? And not connected by wires?

And no one finds this interesting?

Not really. It's a commonly known application. I was in Fry's electronics today and saw a commercial device that uses the same principle (handheld) -- an inductive current sensor. The closer it comes to the electrical field of a power source, the brighter it glows. There's literally hundreds of patents on this application.

This is one of those Snopse-ian urban legends.

The amount of power you can get from that is very very small - essentially the power line is acting as a one-turn primary of a transformer, and the amount of power available to an air-core transformer's secondary falls off as the sixth power of the distance from the primary.

You might get a dab of power that way, but it won't be a lot.

If you want to get something more immediately useful out of a high-tension power line, you can use the E-field it puts out to light fluorescent tubes underneath it. Creepy, yet compelling.

edit: Hey, now that my hopes have been cruelly dashed by Steorn, I'll have to dig up the stuff I was going to start a thread on last week. There's a crew that's gotten a bunch of funding to construct a demo for something very like Dr. Bussard's IEC fusion reactor. The physicist in charge of the science side is a very well known plasma guy who has worked with Bussard in the past. This reactor design adds some extras to the inside-out version of the IEC, although I still think that one had a good chance as well.

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Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
If you want to get something more immediately useful out of a high-tension power line, you can use the E-field it puts out to light fluorescent tubes underneath it. Creepy, yet compelling.

LOL Been there done that... I also used to take my CB radio with the 1000 watt amp in my car... tape down the mike button... and walk around the car with a fluorescent tube. Talk about freaking people out and you could be dramatic ... "Let here be light...." and run your hand down the tube and watch the reaction as it lights between your hands.

One time we took a portable into a lighting shop... picked up tubes and said .."Nope this one one half works..." was a lot of fun

So I guess I will have to stay with Solar for now huh?

Originally posted by Byrd an inductive current sensor.

LOL Okay okay I fess up... I knew that.... Those things are great tools to find wires before drilling into walls

BUT in effect it is drawing energy "from thin air"... it is as you said a well known effect and has several patent applications...

So looking at my signature... this truth it is accepted as being self-evident...

And yet people are so fast to jump on those with "free energy" devices saying "impossible"

The only difference I see is that in the first case we now know the source of the "extra output" and in the other, it remains to be discovered..

Not a very far stretch if you ask me.

But its interesting to note how fast tapping energy through the aether from power lines has become a prosecutable offense. The energy after all is being radiated out, as a natural effect, maybe even affecting the health of those living beneath the power lines... but the minute you try to save a buck and make USE of this stuff they are dousing you with... WAMM Its off to Jail for you bub!



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Wait let's not all jump to conclusions on the idea that this is caused by stray electromagnetic energy powering the steorn device just yet. I would think they would have thought of that first off. Its a simple matter to eliminate this as a possibility and I believe its in the standard operating procedure SOP in any experimenters toolbox. That is to enclose the experiment within a Faraday cage.

Even the steve marks TPU experimenters have done this to eliminate any stray energy...

We should be patient and see what develops instead of freaking out all apescat like

first of all it can be done, secondly, it would only put the energy company and gas companies out of business. Third Think about the energy flowing through tow magnets with like poles as you push them together, thats free energy....now make a machine using that info....

Originally posted by greatlakes
Wait let's not all jump to conclusions on the idea that this is caused by stray electromagnetic energy powering the steorn device just yet.

As usual you missed the point We were not saying this had anything to do with the Steorn device... it was in regards to another device brought up. I've pretty much put Steorn on hold as they packed p an went home like they did last year...

But if a "free energy" device is tapping electromagnetic energy from say the earth, or from the aether... is that not effectively the same thing? Only the Universe won't be sending the cops to your door

Originally posted by parry noidenergy....now make a machine using that info....

Okay Something like this? Only costs a few bucks





I always liked this one too...



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