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What is the agenda of Illuminati group?

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posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 01:41 AM
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The shrot term goal is the completion of the "communist manifesto" which was really adopted by the communist movement and had been written up a few years prior. Before the revolution a priest was struck by lightning and on his dead body was found the Illuminati papers which are now held in the city archives of Ingolstadt. It was not until after the communist revoution was underway that people realized that the exact events were written down years ahead of time in the Illuminati papers.


(I got these pictures from a video. During the narration it said that the symbol for the Illuminati was found in the documents and found to be the eye in a triangle. Then it showed that inserted picture I added here. I dont know if that was a picture from the original documents or not. Only one author in 200 years has even been able to reproduce large amounts of material from the original documents. (She wrote "Secret Societies & Subversive Movements" You could check that out and see if she writes of the eye.) It would be nice to say for sure that the eye is either in or not in the documents but until every single page is available to the public we wont know for sure.)

In May 1919, at Düsseldorf, Germany, the Allied Forces obtained a copy of the "Communist Rules for Revolution." Nearly 90 years later, they have almost succeeded in every area. (Apparently they are willing to live for, and die long before, the goals are all completed; thus creating "frog in boiling water" effect which goes unnoticed by the frog (us) until it's too late.)

A. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.

B. Get control of all means of publicity, thereby:

1. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays and other trivialities.

2. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.

3. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding them up to contempt, ridicule and disgrace.

4. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.

5. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

6. Incite unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.

7. By specious argument, cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues - honesty, sobriety, self-restraint, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.

C. Cause the registration of ALL firearms on some pretext with a view to confiscate them and leave the population helpless.

The long term goal of the Illuminati is the fulfillment of Plato's ideal State or "ideal polis." Where the populous is ruled by a class of elite. In fact I have a copy of Plato here.. 1 sec..

From: Understanding Plato: "Plato's solution to the problem of the ldeal structure of the Civilized State is the division of the citizens into three classes, each of which has its own specialized function: the Rulers will govern the state, warrior Auxillaries will support and assist the rulers, the Third Class, the rest of the citizens, will provide the whole range of goods and services required for civilized life." (The only upward mobility to speak of would be when a child is recognized to be born with qualities suitable to another class, or not suitable with their own. They will then be taken and raised, by the state, as warriors for example.)

Look at that image of the Illuminati douments again, it looks like it quotes Plato on the first page. It may not be quoting Plato of course, but that sure would be interesting.

Even if Plato had all the good intentions in the world, it doesnt mean that other people such as the Illuminati also have good intentions. They can use his model to fulfill their own diabolical desires. The 13 or so bloodlines of the supposed Illuminati would be the elite class no doubt. They will worship Lucifer and give the 3rd class another religion such as Gaia worship. It would be controlled by the state of course to ensure that loyalty to the only religion is equal to loyalty to the State. Education would be vastly different between the 3-classes, concentrating only on what they need to know to do their assigned job.

If you look closely you can see these things happening already. Education has moved from creating smart individuals, to creating the right personality. Job applications now have computerized personality tests to make sure that the schools are teaching the 3rd Class only what we need to know or rather how we need to behave. Beehave like we're in a bee hive, I think.



UNESCO, in 1949, published quite some literature to subvert the United States. In a series of booklets with the title "Toward World Understanding", it states:

"The kindergarten has a significant part to play in the child's education. Not only can it correct many of the ERRORS OF HOME TRAINING, it can PREPARE THE CHILD FOR MEMBERSHIP IN THE WORLD SOCIETY. The success of the teacher is bringing up his pupils to be good citizens of the world. As long as the child breathes the poisoned air of nationalism, education in WORLD-MINDEDNESS can produce only precarious results."



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 02:23 AM
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The shrot term goal is the completion of the "communist manifesto" which was really adopted by the communist movement and had been written up a few years prior.

Then why did Britain push Hitler's Germany eastwards into a war with Soviet Union?


Heath: I think the Soviet Union has a lot of troubles. They are facing domestic economic difficulties and agricultural predicament, and there are also differences within the leadership, over questions of tactics and timing, not over long-term strategy.

Mao: I think the Soviet Union is busy with its own affairs and unable to deal with Europe, the Middle East, South Asia, China and the Pacific. I think it will lose.

Heath: However, its military strength is continually augmented. Although the Soviet Union has encountered troubles at many places in the world, its strength is continuing to grow. Therefore, we deem this to be the principal threat. Does the Chairman think the Soviet Union constitutes a menace to China?

Mao: We are prepared for it to come, but it will collapse if it comes. It has only a handful of troops, and you Europeans are so frightened of it! Some people in the West are always trying to direct this calamity toward China. Your senior, Chamberlain, and also Daladier of France were the ones who pushed Germany eastward.


Heath: I opposed Mr. Chamberlain then.

english.pladaily.com.cn...

[edit on 10-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by ViolatoRIt would be nice to say for sure that the eye is either in or not in the documents


Ah yes that all important eye... it sure gets around a lot


The first draft of the American Flag




[edit on 10-7-2007 by zorgon]



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 03:30 AM
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Popular icon the eye, you can find it everywhere.

Why some loons see it as evidence of Illuminati is beyond me.

Is the eye under the copyright of Illuminati?

Only Illuminati can use the eye?

Others cannot?

Anyone using the eye is connected with "Illuminati"?

What drivel.



[edit on 10-7-2007 by Ickey]



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 03:51 AM
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www.rense.com...

Thats a pretty condensed account of their history, their agenda's and the splintering factions that have occured.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 04:01 AM
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www.rense.com...

Use historical analytical method and you will find that the source is nothing but speculative drivel.

academic.bowdoin.edu...



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by Ickey
Is the eye under the copyright of Illuminati?


It is a well known fact that secret societies used that and other symbols. Just because anyone can use them these days does not change that fact. And even though anyone CAN use it, doesn't mean you will find many that do outside of these societies (or wanna be secret societys) because of the associations the eye represents



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 05:22 AM
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True.

But this little Illuminati just wants to build a modern skatepark in her small town...what those evil corporate business types are up to, I couldn't tell you.

Who knows, maybe working on those futuristic "flying cars" and cities they've been promising us since the 1950's.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by ViolatoR
The shrot term goal is the completion of the "communist manifesto" which was really adopted by the communist movement and had been written up a few years prior.


In 1848, the German Communist Party commissioned Karl Marx and Friedreich Engels to compose a manifesto explaining it objectives and purpose for existence. This was completed in February of 1848, and the Party adopted it unanimously. It describes Marx's ideas that capitalism is the root cause of poverty and war, and that a revolution which eliminated the capitalist mode of production would produce a new egalitarian society founded upon principles of social justice.



Before the revolution a priest was struck by lightning and on his dead body was found the Illuminati papers which are now held in the city archives of Ingolstadt.


This story is apocryphal. In reality, the Illuminati papers were seized by the Bavarian police after raids of the homes of Xavier Zwack and Baron Bassus. None of the papers had anything to do with communism (indeed, Marx hadn't even been born yet). But the papers were very hostile toward the Bavarian government, which led to the Illuminati being outlawed.



In May 1919, at Düsseldorf, Germany, the Allied Forces obtained a copy of the "Communist Rules for Revolution."


This too is a hoax. For the real "rules of communist revolution", one need only read the works of Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Che Guevara, etc.



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 11:52 AM
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Ickey,

I will step in for the mods, because they seem to be ignoring your thread at the moment.

What are your sources that the Illuminati Doesn't exist?

Where did you get your doctorate in education?(since you keep tossing out arguments that are SOOO informative and educational[note...SARCASM])

What is the highest degree you have received (please remember to provide evidence of these degrees as we REQUIRE evidence to believe you have a dog in this argument)?

How old are you?

Which High School do you currently attend? (haha Gotcha)

Have you ever heard of Google?

have you ever used Google?

since you are so "illuminated" and we are stuck in the dark... Have you ever searched Google for Weishaupt?

Historical Analytical evidence proves without a doubt a secret society was founded in 1776 in Germany. This group ended up referring to themselves as the illuminated ones... which later became Illuminati. This is all documented and with 15 minutes of research (which any college educated person knows how to do properly... I can't wait till summer break is over and you kids go back to High School)

Now... lets just state up front... your thread luckily is about to be lost in the fray... I will NOT be coming back to comment again... so feel free to bash away...

My TROLLDAR is blipping.


well see in a few days... ehh?

Coven Out



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by GENERAL EYES
True.

But this little Illuminati just wants to build a modern skatepark in her small town...what those evil corporate business types are up to, I couldn't tell you.


LOL well small goals for small towns, bigger goals for planets... so ummm just which type of "Illuminati" are you?



Who knows, maybe working on those futuristic "flying cars" and cities they've been promising us since the 1950's.


They are working on that... unfortunately it will be on Mars not on Earth



posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by Ickey
Why some loons see it as evidence of Illuminati is beyond me.


Don't suppose it ever occurred to you that there may be several of the Illuminati right here at ATS?

Not hard to find really... threads like this bring us out






posted on Jul, 10 2007 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Don't suppose it ever occurred to you that there may be several of the Illuminati right here at ATS?

Not hard to find really... threads like this bring us out





I wonder if anyone knows this though...


If not, they do now.


*cheers!*



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 02:51 AM
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Nah the Secret is safe... No one reads these things past a page or two anyway...



Our goal is a 60 acre "theme park" here in Las Vegas...

Your skatepark need a helping hand? Visit these people...

www.fundraisersltd.net...



Note to Ickey This is what Illuminati do




[edit on 11-7-2007 by zorgon]



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 09:46 PM
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Thank you kindly for the link.

We're meeting tomorrow for the prelimianries, and I'll be contributing this along with some other information I've dug up. It's going to be nice to see these kids get together and do something of this nature for their community.

Salut!



posted on Jul, 11 2007 @ 10:06 PM
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Your Welcome...

They will send you a book and a box of samples 1 standard brick and one kids art tile. These are either 8 inch x 8 inch or 12 in x 12 in The kids get to design a line art that fits in a box and they put it on the tile

That ought to be perfect for a skate park Immortality!!


Good luck...


Hey how do you do an Illuminati handshake online




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posted on Jul, 12 2007 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Hey how do you do an Illuminati handshake online




[edit on 11-7-2007 by zorgon]


meeehhh... i think its

*Smacks back of head and runs hand to his forhead*

*Uses elbow of hand touching forhead to rub zorgons elbow*

there ya go




posted on Jul, 13 2007 @ 01:11 PM
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How about this









posted on Aug, 30 2007 @ 11:32 PM
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Some dischordian Illuminists I know of simply get a crew together and produce this bit of visual "sub"genius :



Whereas I go this direction in my little lodge :



Ehandshake - sharing a bit of our own personal energies and works through the technological wonders of the internet.



[edit on 30-8-2007 by GENERAL EYES]



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by theindependentjournal
The bottom line agenda of the Illuminati is worldwide control of Money, Religion and Politics/Government, this gives them total control of the People, Production, Natural Resources and all of it.



and illuminati is principal controler of usa , correct??????



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